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QuoteCome see me @ #Seanza <3

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"Demoralize the enemy from within by surprise, terror, sabotage, assassination. This is the war of the future."

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http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/3690

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instant ban

fuck yeah!

Nope, don't really care if someone wants to act like that on the internet.

I don't even need a quote from Adolf Hitler and a swastika to be called a nazi.

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Well, I guess your actions in third reich / cf 3.x have been so noticable by some minorities and people with major disabilities that they assosiate it to mr.Adolf. Too busy to read if that sentence made any sense, lost my tought on some point.

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Yes, around "We.."

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Petri Heil

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very offended

nop

Revoke his posting rights.

Don't give a shit really.. :I

pfff, make a proper nazi-flag..

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nice stealing rockskin's flag :P

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do like

don't people get banned from cb and esl for swastikas

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Adolf's a hit for the cool kids.

I know sean and it's not like he supports the idea behind it. Besides it's just a quote, i dont see any random greeks get offended when some1 says veni vidi vici.,.....

Quote shows incredible wisdom from the certain austrian person. One can admire him as a politician and strategist and not support his ideals!

combined with the flag it doesn't look so good though.

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flag might be slightly excessive but still being offended always lies with the person who feels that way not with the person making the statement! :D

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"One can admire him as a politician and strategist and not support his ideals!" LOL PLEASE !
politician : vote for me, I ll kill all the jews ; strategist : the final solution... Looks great, but it has nothing to see AT ALL with his ideas... I hope you were trolling

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If you actually read the quote you know it does display quite good insight in modern warfare..
I'm not saying i support Hitler in any way but i am saying he was a great politician (which is basically fact seeing he got the support from an entire country, and no it wasn't with saying lets kill the jews, it's much more subtle but apperently you don't know the historical context)

Also i don't say i support napoleon but the man accomplished a great deal (same goes for alexander the great etc etc.)\

You can't disregard the fact it's quite impressive to win over an entire country with absolutely morally abject ideas!

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I like how he got his power, he so good politician he didn't need any tricks to be elected and shit

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Apparently you don't know the historical context, because anyone promising work and prosperity in a time of crisis (Germany virtually lay in ruins by that time) would've won the people over.

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fact remains hitler did it... And seeing you're dutch i'd like to point out mr Wilders, whom i don't support in anyway (i voted for D66 fyi) he still is a good politician and that's admireable...

I don't understand why ppl always get on their high horse when it comes to hitler yet don't when it's about any other historical figure whom appeared much earlier in history...

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because how many other figures were like "hey, let's exterminate whole race of people"?

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Being of the jewish faith is not really a race now is it?
But there were quite a few fyi, the roman empire at one point banned christianity and persecuted every1 of christian faith only to adept the faith as a national one later on.

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couldn't find better word than race. and true about romans, yet all this shit is pointless, all of genocides are like wtf

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Idd genocide is retarded!
But finding a common enemy unites, hence it's used so much among politicians.
The human mind is quite moldable

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I'm taking a wild guess here, but it might have something to do with the fact that those figures are exactly that, historical. Telling other people what they want to hear isn't exactly rocket science either.

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See but that's where i differ to me Hitler is historical too, and we can take a look at how he took power and ran the empire etc etc.
And telling ppl what they want to hear is not impressive at all true, but doing so in such manner as which you get continued support and turn every setback to work for you is.

In retrospect every brilliant idea seems easy and logical, but you have to execute it at that point in time which usually requires out of time thinking and that's quite extraordinary in itself!

But i think you know what i'm getting at, you're not the typical run of the mill uneducated internet troll. I just think it's quite impressive to conquer most of europe and parts of africa, it's the same admiration i have for said historical figures. Has nothing to do with ideology.

Besides, history is written by the victor, hence morally abject ideas get determined by them aswell.

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Go ahead and ask your older family members how irrelevant Hitler is to them.

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Oh dear i'm not saying hitler is irrelevant and believe you me, my family has some stories to tell about WWII.
It's not like i'm defending the nazi ideals is it?
I'm just saying unifying a nation is admirable, albeit under false pretence. Just detach yourself from any moral value, look at what the man did. "hmm he did quite well for a few years, even managed to conquer quite a large chunk of the world" and then he failed. Then you look at what he's done and you go "that's absolutely abysmal, how could one do such a thing".

I was merely looking at WWII through those 2 different set of eyes...

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"even managed to conquer quite a large chunk of the world"

How is that admirable in any way?

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Do you want me to go into that or?

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It surely is remarkable what he "achieved", but that doesn't mean you should admire that.

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for the fact on itself i have admiration, not for the manner or ideology under which it was achieved if that's what you're getting at.
I might have expressed myself not so clearly before, but it's at least remarkable!

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Hmm I don't see the act of conquering hostile nations as anything worthy of my respect, for whatever reason. Even if you conquer them because you believe you'll bring them love and peace. That's what the Sharia is all about too.

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Well that is your good right, i always have some form of respect for historical figures who managed to run an empire, no matter what religion, no matter what ideal. It's a remarkable feat to accomplish anyway, i'd say i'd find it quite remarkable if the muslim ideal would conquer western countries, and remarkable it'd remain even though i wouldn't support in any way.

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Wilders
good politician

:)

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he mad yes?

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Ppl like to pretend he's not a good politician but if you look closely he does quite well in the moves he makes. Besides if it's that easy why doesn't every1 get the amount of votes he gets?

Once again, not supporting but i do have respect for the way he manages to manifest himself

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If you've ever watched "Vragenuurtje" you'd know he's a horrible politician.
He'd throw in some idea he has, people like Halsema would ask him to elaborate and he has no clue what to say so starts getting personal, or just repeats what he said beforehand without any common sense.

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He's not a good debater, and Halsema is much much better. Yet he gets more votes than she does, he must be doing something right!

And can ppl pls stop missing what i'm saying and going into detail on examples? :D <3

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must be the hair.

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:D homo :P

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yo momma

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He gets those votes because he's a populist. Being a good politician is something completely different.

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Being a good politician as in having good points, well argumented, having an ideal and being a good debater, then yes that is something completely different.
But being a good politician can also equal being a populist, the thing is he consistantly gets votes even when ppl in his party bring him to shame, or even when he says something completely retarded.
The electoral strategy is quite effecient.

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Ye that's true. And sad at the same time.

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It is quite sad idd :<

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are you serious ?

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I generalized by speaking only about the Jews, I know a bit about the social context in which he took the lead.
My point is more like : talking about Holocaust denial and saying : people who deny Holocaust are retards, but I admire the fact that they fight for their own ideas against all opposition, thou I don't support their ideas...
It seems to me that you kinda made a paradox in your first post, because you cannot admire what someone did regarding the fact that it allowed him to start a massive extermination...
My point may be a bit wooly and is more about personal point of view and personal sensibility, I hope you ll get what I meant

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I get what you ment it's just that i've completely detached morallity from the admiration part..
Morally completely wrong but politcally quite impressive if you get what i'm saying :D

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I get it but personally cannot agree :P

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All depends on personal preference :)

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That's it !
Sry for the aggressive attitude in my first post, Im quite hot-blooded on ze interweb :P

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No offense taken, and i thought your reply was quite good didn't really come across that agressive, had good arguments so it's all good. If it's got content that's actually based on something i like it :) And yours defo had content!

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Yea I don't like to troll or post non contributive comments... This role is for the trash nerding around here : P love elitism :D

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:D I usually only post extensive comments when i think ppl actually have the brains to read em, which is very rare on crossfire nowadays :P
Still enjoy a good discussion, growth through disagreeing so to say :)

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Agreed :D

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Xo has spoken!

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i love you!

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QuoteAll propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.

Now at my profile

HEIL

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HEIL

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Hitler was great and I support all of his ideas

back in the days like 2k6 there was also some sTREETFIGHTERs-thingie with the reichsheerflagge in the news

back in the days back in the haze

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those were the great times
i miss it

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The fuck is a "Reichsheerflagge"?

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baby of his imagination

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*reichs
wasnt sure and googled for reichsheer and it didnt correct me and the flags shown werent too different :/

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That still doesn't make any sense but I guess you're talking about the Reichskriegsflagge.

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no,

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That's simply the flag of the German Empire/North German Confederation.

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No.

I believe you found it from killerboys profile since he is a true faggot.

i want to put it as the flag infront of my nickname, this dutch flag gets boring :E

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at least he should loose his rights on cf

Yup, I'm very offended.

PS I have blues eye & blonde hair, I am super in Hitler's eyes (yes Hitler gets capital H)

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