Streaming Feedback

by Ati_ • 20 Dec 2010, 10:29 • Journals
I've been streaming alot lately which includes streaming ET, League of Legends and Starcraft 2. Now I've only got feedback about fixing the lag. So far I've managed to fix the lag for SC2 and LoL, but still having some problems with ET it seems. I'll try to fix this asap. Anyway, streaming is the way to get ET out there to other communities because no-one wants to install ET and go through all the SLAC and PB problems to actually just watch a game and look what ET is like. Besides that, I enjoy doing it :P

Now I'd just like to have some feedback on the shoutcasting/streaming part of the Aero cup and ESL Finals. If you watched, did you enjoy watching it? What could we do better next time? What about do you enjoy watching more freecam or a players PoV ingame? Thanks in advance!

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imabob 20 Dec 2010, 10:35
on the esl one sometimes u were too quiet like u didnt know what to say. and obviously those vent errors or whatever.

when u were both casting together it was pretty okay. what was the best was when u were commenting on what they should do etc.. so imo u should do that alot more.
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Ati_ 20 Dec 2010, 11:50
Ye, I'm not really gifted as a shoutcaster, the thing is waki can shout and I really can't :p I'll work on it though :P The vent errors have been fixed. Thansk for the feedback
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miNd 20 Dec 2010, 10:37
l was watching it 5mins yesterday, the amount of bullshit stories told there were huge and also the actual shoutcast sucked cocks, maybe just quit doing this. No offence.
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Ethr 20 Dec 2010, 10:43
surely thats a comment on ati's shoutcasting ability not the quality of the stream itself?
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Ati_ 20 Dec 2010, 11:42
Hmm :/ There was a moment of bullshit between maps ye, but during the game it wasn't :O
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Ethr 20 Dec 2010, 10:42
save the streams somewhere and upload them so i can watch them later

thanks
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Ati_ 20 Dec 2010, 11:43
I think they're saved on my pc, will check it out later
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Edgar 20 Dec 2010, 10:46
Was a bit laggy, but overall just fine.
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waXx 20 Dec 2010, 11:06
by internet is too slow to listen to you on own3d :(
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Mott4 20 Dec 2010, 11:12
better cfg
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GuuRu 20 Dec 2010, 11:22
stream is good but you need way better CFG.
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suVi 20 Dec 2010, 11:23
i like the chick
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newbcake 20 Dec 2010, 11:26
you only need to install ET and 2.60 and 2.60b to watch match
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Frop 20 Dec 2010, 11:28
I would love to see a return of the kind of camming RtCW had, i.e. a sensible cameraman or camerawoman who would switch between player POVs and objective freecams depending on the action. Combine this with dedicated shoutcasters (two is better than one) and it's magic.

I wouldn't mind giving either a try.
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kot 20 Dec 2010, 12:15
DO IT
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Frop 20 Dec 2010, 12:43
Would be even better with a retired Polish icon on my side.
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kot 20 Dec 2010, 16:54
You'd be just fine on your own.
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stRay 20 Dec 2010, 11:36
use a better ingameconfig!
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Ati_ 20 Dec 2010, 11:53
Laggy. as in FPS lag or every few seconds screenfreeze ?
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newbcake 20 Dec 2010, 12:21
fps lag if i remember
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Wakizashiuk 20 Dec 2010, 12:08
Also if anyone knows how to fix my own3d problems please pmme :(
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zay 20 Dec 2010, 12:19
There were some screenfreezes and you need to use a better config. Think most people not familiar with ET would find it to look quite ugly.

Would've been nice if your co-caster would have been less partial as well :P But then again I only watched the final.

I like when you guys analyzed and spoke of the different tacs and stuff they are using though, and what they should try. Wasn't that much, but it's interesting to hear stuff like that as a normal player, instead of pure commentating of frags and flag caps.
I've not played Quake Live much, but I like listening to shoutcasters there because they give an explanation to the players moves and what they are trying to do. Which I find interesting.
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eiM 20 Dec 2010, 12:25
only checked your stream for a few seconds when the ESL final was on and noticed a very bad quality/config.
If you say your goal is to bring the game out there to non ET players you definately need a cleaner picture. Its simply more enjoyable.
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Ethr 20 Dec 2010, 12:43
any news on that xreal et ?? because if new players are after graphics then that could be the answer?
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eiM 20 Dec 2010, 12:46
thats not what I imply with my comment. A graphically updated ET will not drastically increase ET's playerbase or popularity unless it comes with other important improvements/updates/functions. The people that play ET dont do so for the gfx and even Xreal-ET will not make the graphics CoD:MW2 like, probably close but given the development time needed it'll never be absolutely up2date gfx.

I just tried to politely express that his stream quality sucks and thus I do not enjoy watching it and people who do not even know the game will probably dislike it even more.
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Ethr 20 Dec 2010, 12:48
so what sort of new features do you think would attract new players?

looking at 'modern' games like COD they have the whole achievement based thing. Although unlocking weapons would just be stupid in ET, awards shouldnt be too hard but it would require alot of community work to make it happen.
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eiM 20 Dec 2010, 12:56
I dont want to define features that a modern ET should have, but there are several barriers to ET's development such as the unfinished/buggy competition mode or game itself. We learned to live with tankbugs, forcetapoutbugs and whatnot and even fixxed quite some of them but everytime I think about a lua-script for different new features I have to reconsider because etpro's lua support is anything but finished.
This is just one example. There are many many more flaws out there. GTV already have to look out for the amount of new maps they add to their ettv's becuase somewhen the limit of available maps is reached (because of some engine/game-specific limit). All this could be better and unless you first fix the flaws and problems there is no real point in adding new.

Ofcourse on the other hand Xreal-ET could be the right base for all this, since the engine is up2date and could be called modern (not only the renderer) since it bases on ioquake etc. If one would make a competition mod ontop of a finished xreal-et (given all the models,maps,textures,animations were done) that could really be a success.
But well I've attempted a similar approach before the Wolf engine was released and even the release didnt change much of the overwhelming artistic workload, which in the end make me drop the project. Unfortunately my expectations are that the artistic workload will also break Xreal-ET's neck on long term just as the once planned Xreal-Game which ended up to "only" be a great engine for the same reasons.
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Ethr 20 Dec 2010, 13:17
hmm i see what you mean about the art work

sometimes i wonder if a better ET client can be made (now the source code is released) but to finish ETPro someone needs to persaude banii to give out the source code. Either that or someone has to code a new competition mod which would take a while.

I'd like to see SLAC integrated into the ET client duno if that will happen
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eiM 20 Dec 2010, 13:23
I have too few knowlege of coding to evaluate those things. I've just got some experience with these kinda projects/attempts and there are quite some ideas that can be successful but until now I do not see the right approaches being made.
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Sh1zzle 20 Dec 2010, 12:35
it's better than your LoL skills :x
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m!das 20 Dec 2010, 12:44
get rid of waki and its fine!!
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Simwar 20 Dec 2010, 12:46
random chick trap :x
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lunAa 20 Dec 2010, 13:13
i liked it but u need a good graphic cfg like some people already said it, then it will be perfect :D
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Predje 20 Dec 2010, 13:16
really enjoyed it, but as said before get a nice cfg :) (check my profile, movie quality cfg used for playing)
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newbcake 20 Dec 2010, 13:17
stop promoting your cfg en kom black ops!
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Predje 20 Dec 2010, 13:48
butbutbut fully selfmade and kickass graphics :(
and ill be right there :<
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newbcake 20 Dec 2010, 15:13
te laat met nu naar tandarts kut.
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Raven 20 Dec 2010, 13:23
Its good! :D you must share your trance music with me tho! :P
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nicon 20 Dec 2010, 14:22
only saw the one with waki and ye, fix the lags+ u discussed about several things not which werent working, this should not happen.. test your broadcast before, so you can fix everything before the game starts..
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Ati_ 20 Dec 2010, 14:28
Both were with waki :P Anyway, didn't had much time for both games to set them up. So kinda had to fix stuff while broadcasting. I'll try to fix some tonight or tomorrow if I have time.
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nicon 20 Dec 2010, 14:29
oh, watched tlr-d. esl
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Ati_ 20 Dec 2010, 14:36
Ye, this was the first ET stream Ive done, had lots of lag and vent issues. Things were running more smooth in yesterdays aero cup because I fixed the vent issue.
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Tropic 20 Dec 2010, 14:28
dont like the shoutcast tbh.
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Ati_ 20 Dec 2010, 14:38
Be more specific ? :{
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Tropic 20 Dec 2010, 14:55
Config should be changed, cuz it doesnt look that nice.
And idk if it was you or waki but someone is talking very low.
And you guys have to shoutcast like its a final , be active scream a bit.
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Ati_ 20 Dec 2010, 15:28
Well, config will be changed, like many people commented.
Can fix the volume, if you tell me who it was :P
Can't really do much about screaming, I know what you mean, but I can't really scream :d have to think of the people around me! :)
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Tropic 20 Dec 2010, 15:32
k , i will watch next time again!
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cryptz 20 Dec 2010, 14:51
waki is annoying.
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