Webdesign sites

by Nutzzz • 15 Jul 2011, 12:23 • Journals
Hello crossfire ,

i would like to start with webdesign but I don't have any experience .

Does anyone knows where I can start it on a easy way (maybe some online free books).

Or sombody who read this journal who can help me with starting it.

Help would be nice !

Greetz
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LeFrancis 15 Jul 2011, 13:26
Start with html/css -> easy
Learn php/ database -> medium
HF.
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Nutzzz 15 Jul 2011, 13:27
ty would I practise it with dreamweaver or another program ?
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LeFrancis 15 Jul 2011, 13:29
It's for noobs. Pros use a random text editor or eventually notepad++
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Indloon 15 Jul 2011, 13:59
Lol?
Dreamviewer is the best tool for making desing.Every web desinger uses Dreamviewer.Notepad is past..
Desing comes with Dreamviewer.Other things come with hand way scripting.
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Kraguesh 15 Jul 2011, 14:15
No peter HAHA, unoob !

To design, we use photoshop to create and xhtml, php & javascript to use it.
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Indloon 15 Jul 2011, 15:57
With photoshop we make the images part of website desing,then we use Dreamviewer!!
xhtml..I dont see any diffrence between normal HTML:<
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Kraguesh 15 Jul 2011, 16:10
:{D
you can't test, i'm always right !
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Indloon 15 Jul 2011, 16:12
No u arent!!!!!!!!
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infi_ 15 Jul 2011, 16:12
not a big expert, but all the people i know/have known in past that deal with webdesign(read coding) use notepad/notepad++. dreamweaver is a good program, yet apparently it's not efficient enough.
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Indloon 15 Jul 2011, 16:13
Dreamviewer has also notpad inside!(:
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infi_ 15 Jul 2011, 16:20
so umm....why'd you download dreamweaver if you're really using 'notepad'?
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Indloon 15 Jul 2011, 16:40
I use Dreamviewer because I was tired to save html file and open it on browser,in dreamviewer,there is live desing built in,that makes me to love it.
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infi_ 15 Jul 2011, 16:43
you could also just refresh the browser after overwriting your existing saved file. all in all, everyone has their own taste, i've used dreamweaver in the past(it's good when you're not 100% sure what you're doing) but in general i wouldn't use it on a serious project.
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Indloon 15 Jul 2011, 16:45
Well,every desinger has his own tools to make desing;)
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Kraguesh 15 Jul 2011, 16:27
Haha no, liar.
Dreamweaver is for people which can'n program because it's easy to designate, it's too low.
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Indloon 15 Jul 2011, 16:42
You say its easy to desing website with dreamviewer?
Seems that you never made an website with dreamviewer...
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Kraguesh 15 Jul 2011, 17:37
Haha , i'm student in informatic and programmation so ;)
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Indloon 16 Jul 2011, 08:53
$Kraguesh;
if($Kraguesh=="Omg")
echo "Omg Kraguesh Omg";
elseif
echo "Go programm somewhere else:D";
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LeFrancis 15 Jul 2011, 14:20
DreamwEAver = WYSIWYG = noobs
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mAus 15 Jul 2011, 15:12
seems like you don't know shit
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Indloon 15 Jul 2011, 15:59
Hey maus.
Check this desing: http://genert.impact.pri.ee/desing/leht.html
I have runned out of ideas what could be in body(center of page) area.Any suggestions?
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hAMMER 16 Jul 2011, 14:07
if i may say that, the header is not that nice. especially the 3 cutted images where you can see the crossovers between the picutres.

in my opinion the crossovers should flow into each other :)
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LeFrancis 15 Jul 2011, 17:32
Sorry if I never paid/cracked a software to make my websites.
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dualinity 15 Jul 2011, 15:35
its only WYSIWYG if you turn it on.
You can code it manually, too.

P.S. OMG MAUS OMG
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ant1y 15 Jul 2011, 13:58
You could go to a collage maybe and learn about it, or get a tutor I dno. But yeah html will come first then prob css then later on php/databases as leFrancis said.
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Indloon 15 Jul 2011, 13:58
w3schools.
(:
you should check Smashing Magazine desing one.
There are lot helpful tutorials what help you making website.
First learn HTML the basics,then get HTML5 into head.Then go and learn CSS and get CSS3 tags into head.
http://www.1stwebdesigner.com/css/22-handy-html5-css3-tools-resources-and-guides/
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Kraguesh 15 Jul 2011, 14:12
If your're good in design & graphism, y can try dreamweaver, but it's cheat.
Else go learn xhtml/css, it's better. (Don't test php and javascript ;D)

I'm a student in this.
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andi 15 Jul 2011, 14:25
w3schools sux sorry xD lots of process consuming code and errors in code tbh
Like scripts which are at first look okay but with higher rate of execution they'll overload the shit and usualy they don't look too much in optimized code to reduce result back in shorter time..
I mean dont get me wrong it is a good start but don't take it as that's what they said that's how it has to be..

Myself i downloaded some code studied it how it works..tested out changes..searched around for some solutions and nowadays i understand the basics that every coder should know and all the candy..tho it is maybe harder way but that's how i do stuff..i get bored of usual slow paced shit when u see only like hello world stuff or very basic and simple scripts..

So again for start id go with PeterGriffin but just keep in mind that you have to look beyond the rules they point out and the code they write and always try to make it faster, more optimized and advanced in terms of re-usability.

And check out StackOverflow when you need a solution. Usually you'll get the best answer there even on some preety hard and advanced stuff you need to deal with when it comes to coding. Be it php, html, css, actionscript 2 3 anything..
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mAus 15 Jul 2011, 15:11
www.thefwa.com
www.thecssawards.com
http://lookslikegooddesign.com/
http://dribbble.com/
http://www.fromupnorth.com/

for the coding part, i could try to upload my pdf's from school :)
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Nutzzz 15 Jul 2011, 17:06
Ye would be nice !
I'm still not at highschool but I want to learn it before.
When I past my 6th I'll do webdesign so...

ANayway would be nice of you to upload it :)
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