new pc

by nicon • 28 Sep 2011, 14:26 • Journals
Next month the money from my summerjob will arrive, so I want buy a new PC.

It needs to:
run newer games fluently
play internet-music-streams, games like fm2012 and let me have some tabs open at the same time without losing too much speed
be upgradeable (dno if some parts may bitch around, I'm the opposite of an expert)

I can't:
build it myself

I can:
spend around 500 - 600€

So, I'm in need of either a url with an awesome already built PC, or a list of perfect parts and a url of someone building the PC with these parts.
I found this, but dno which one is best for my needs and whether the price-performance ratio is acceptable.
(I obviously prefer german companies, because of shipping time/costs)

I also need windows7 with it, so where to get it cheap and what are the differences between the versions?

Thanks in advance!
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squalli 28 Sep 2011, 15:28
1/3 of your money goes if you buy Windows 7
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nicon 28 Sep 2011, 15:30
pls, got a 50€-offer for home edition here
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Paper 28 Sep 2011, 15:30
Get windows like everyone does, torrents!
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Edik 28 Sep 2011, 15:32
Windows 7 from MSDN AA if you go to uni. if not, then go illegal ;p
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AlienWare 28 Sep 2011, 15:33
spend around 500 - 600€ <--- wont get DECENT pc do run new games :)
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pala 28 Sep 2011, 15:44
ahh...YES it can
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nicon 28 Sep 2011, 15:47
sry, I have zero interest in Alienware.
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AlienWare 28 Sep 2011, 19:18
u dont need Alienware , but u wont get something decent for 600€ ( graphics cost already 300+ )
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nicon 28 Sep 2011, 21:13
I don't care about gaymes being released in 2013
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oLGaa 28 Sep 2011, 15:51
you can build it yourself. most of the things are fool proof today, even inserting the cpu
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nicon 28 Sep 2011, 15:53
have a mate who could do that, but I bothered him too often with PC-questions..
guess I'd ask him again, if it's rly that much cheaper..
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oLGaa 28 Sep 2011, 15:55
I don't really know if its cheaper, but I got my gear for around 500 CHF which is about 400 euros. but i only play ET and sometimes sc2 :)
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Cstm 28 Sep 2011, 16:48
/sui
wo und was (hardware) hesch gchauft? nimmti mi wunder .. hardware ide schwiiz isch nu sautüür
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oLGaa 28 Sep 2011, 16:51
s'meischt bim steg, het ou es paar belligeri teili gha. en kolleg wo det gueti verbendige hett, het mer das alles zäme gstellt ond ech has eifach müesse bstelle ond zäme boue :)

e: was ech denn ha cha der ersch deheim säge
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Cstm 28 Sep 2011, 17:00
ohja steg gaht nu.. han schusch anderi sache wie muus etc. uf digitec bstellt
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IntuQk 28 Sep 2011, 15:55
you can get w7 for free( you know how) about the part you only need a new gpu cpu and mainboard.
maybe a new power supply and HDD so tell us what you need and we can help you.
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nicon 28 Sep 2011, 16:02
yer, I just feel safer with a legal one q: Hardly dl'ed anything since a mate had to pay couple of thousand € for music-dl some years ago..
For the PC, I need a complete new one, I have no idea what parts are needed, never engaged myself with the hardware inside the case:)..I won't use a single part from my current one.
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IntuQk 28 Sep 2011, 16:11
you do have the case already and HDD , if you really need a complete new one that 600 isnt going to do the job.
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nicon 28 Sep 2011, 16:23
hdd+case would be like 70€, 70 more or less won't matter too much..
+ I might sell/endow my current computer to a friend who'd be quite satisfied with mine..
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zaNc 28 Sep 2011, 15:59
its actually pretty easy to assemble a pc
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Zodiac 28 Sep 2011, 15:56
Guess you can get off pretty cheap by buying the Sandy Bridge i5 (which is as good as i7 in terms of gaming), the Intel i5 2500k. Then just buy the most expensive GFX you can afford within the budget and some decent motherboard and RAM (which is pretty cheap anyway).

Dunno what hardware prizes are in DE anyway, but its most likely much cheaper than here..
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SayatNova 28 Sep 2011, 15:59
Most likely _anything_ is cheaper than Norwayhere. Wellfare capitalism y u no introduce communism?!
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Zodiac 28 Sep 2011, 16:01
Haha yeah, can't think of anything cheaper here except petrol.. :P
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nicon 28 Sep 2011, 16:07
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz !? [sorry for my probably stupid question]
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Zodiac 28 Sep 2011, 16:15
Yeah.
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nicon 28 Sep 2011, 16:17
Orite, guess I will just try this then and ask a friend to take a look at the list and find me some good e-shop.. thanks!
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crook 28 Sep 2011, 16:28
I would rather save on gfx than on cpu btw. You can tone down alot of games graphics wise, but not when your cpu is the bottleneck. Besides it's easier to upgrade your gfx card than it is to ugrade your cpu or cpu + mobo.
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Zodiac 28 Sep 2011, 16:36
An i5 2500k is a really good CPU, it is imo the CPU with best value for money.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/20
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crook 28 Sep 2011, 20:35
I agree. I didn't reply to you ;)
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naco 28 Sep 2011, 16:05
I can tell you from experience that if you're going to buy a new pc, spend a bigger amount on it than 500-600 euros, it is totally worth it and it will run a lot better.
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nicon 28 Sep 2011, 16:13
I will earn about 1200€, I needed to beg my parents for more money x-times, because I didn't have any left a week before the month ended + my car is anything but reliable, which makes it quite impossible for me to spend much more (ofc I'd be willing to buy a much better part for 40€ more or w/e, but that's it then..
I'm not the type of guy, who wants to try every new game coming out
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naco 28 Sep 2011, 16:17
I rarely try new games on my own pc, but I'd still say it is worth the extra money spent to have a computer which will keep up a lot longer.
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nicon 28 Sep 2011, 16:37
As said, can spend a little more money on few parts, but I don't want it to become too expensive.. Also I'm growing out of gayming and I am pretty sure a 5or600€ computer will be good enough to browse the interwebs and do uni-work for the next 5 years :)
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IntuQk 28 Sep 2011, 16:10
CPU : http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-360-IN&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=1275

GPU: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-252-SP&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1866

Mainboard: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-447-AS

Memory: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-104-KS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=
------------------ total of 504 euro so far.

power suppy: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-055-OC&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=
------------------------------------------------- 560 euro's now, should be good i guess not sure correct me if im wrong XD
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nicon 28 Sep 2011, 16:15
sup with soundcard, networkcard and stuff like that? is it built in one of these parts or just not mentioned yet?
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Zodiac 28 Sep 2011, 16:18
It's integrated with the motherboard (haven't seen one without for a while at least).
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Zodiac 28 Sep 2011, 16:17
Rather http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-173-OK&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1341 to be honest :P
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IntuQk 28 Sep 2011, 16:22
ye ati or nvidea, he doesnt has alot of money and ati is cheaper for same preformance.
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nicon 28 Sep 2011, 16:28
Why is that? The ati I have atm refuses to run few games and I also couldn't update the driver->install always fails (this possibly due to me doing sth wrong tho')
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zenix 28 Sep 2011, 18:10
I would take NVIDIA since the drivers for OpenGL are much better.
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IntuQk 28 Sep 2011, 16:18
buld in Realtek 8111E Gigabit LAN NW

audio Realtek AL892 8 Channel HD Audio
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Levin 28 Sep 2011, 16:25
image: 62234
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IntuQk 28 Sep 2011, 16:27
couldnt find the graph XD its very handy
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Zodiac 28 Sep 2011, 16:41
Yes, if you're building a PC a year ago...
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crittie 28 Sep 2011, 16:44
even Finland Swanidius managed to build his own computer so basicly everyone should be able to.
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nicon 28 Sep 2011, 17:14
gimme manual :P
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vita 28 Sep 2011, 18:04
http://www.computerforum.de/thread.php?threadid=139542

Phenom II X4 955 http://geizhals.at/deutschland/485791 - 90€
ASRock 970 Extreme4 http://geizhals.at/deutschland/655726 - 76€
Samsung Spinpoint F3 http://geizhals.at/deutschland/598574 - 26€
G.Skill Kit 8GB Ram http://geizhals.at/deutschland/447820 - 40€
Laufwerk LiteOn iHDS118 http://geizhals.at/deutschland/369427 - 12€
SF Amazon 450W http://geizhals.at/deutschland/492447 - 39€
ASUS EAH6870 http://geizhals.at/deutschland/601834 - 137€
Xigmatek Asgard III bzw ein Gehäuse deiner Wahl http://geizhals.at/deutschland/605241 - 30€
Scythe Mugen 2 http://geizhals.at/deutschland/486335 - 31€

Wenn du möchtest kannst du einen anderen Prozessor nehmen ( i5 2500k) ca. 160 € oder anstatt der ASUS EAH6870 eine 6950 Karte nehmen die noch stärker ist. Da ne Graka fürs gaming wichtiger ist. oder gleich beides kaufen. Wäre im preis Leistungsverhältnis Ultimativ für nur 650 €

pm me for links mit den zugehörigen Preisen

Top Grakas :

http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p701145/pid/geizhals
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/info/p688983_1024MB-HIS-Radeon-HD-6870-IceQ-X-Dirt3-Aktiv-PCIe-2-1-x16--Retail-.html

Gerade im Sonderangebot also greif zu :)
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vita 28 Sep 2011, 18:11
Btw. Ich habe meinen PC selbst zusammen gebaut mit der Anleitungs gings easy :)
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reenz 28 Sep 2011, 16:46
Customize it, much cheaper and better!
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garin 28 Sep 2011, 16:50
Don't be a pussy, built it yourself !
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belto 28 Sep 2011, 17:30
take new Sandy Bridge-E with X79 chipset :)
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bestestplayer 28 Sep 2011, 18:40
cannot into building pc
so much 1743
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waste 28 Sep 2011, 19:49
http://www.one.de/shop/product_info.php?products_id=5082&topList=true

i think this is quite good for the price..
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nicon 28 Sep 2011, 21:31
I think so, too, obrigado. Will have to compare this one to the lists above now
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vita 28 Sep 2011, 22:29
you should do :) looks quite good :) but GTX 550 Ti isn't as good as HD Radeon 6950
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