Popups in Photoshop [beta]

History:
Germany lagg3r brought this to my attention during the time he was working on his movie. He asked me whether I could create a user-friendly popup template in photoshop for him. Looking even further into the past, lagg3r copied the idea from Portugal ag0n who had this photoshop template (ag0n used it in ET Moments: http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=movie&mode=download&id=855&url=0) but unfortunatelly he lost it.
That's where I come in. I hope I fairly accomplished to recover this template successfully.
I gave up this project some weeks ago because I tried to create a font file instead which would make everything easier. Nevertheless I came to the conclusion that the icons become quite ugly and it wasn't too easy either.

Adequate for:
Moviemakers who want to create a movie with outstanding popups get the opportunity to edit their popups in different degrees.
Furthermore you should be prepared to invest some time into this since it will be part of your editing.
I guess that only a few will take advantage of this since the majority doesn't know / are too lazy to create their popups in PS.
Lastly, you should have a little experience with PS (not much neccessary though).

My aim:
Was to make the process of creating popups in PS easier by setting up a "popup template".

What's your job?
You will be editing your popups individually which includes the following to do:
> Choose a font, size, colour etc. for your text/popups
> Add/Remove shadows or strokes (can be useful at a light background, e.g. the blue sky at supply)
> Select the weapon icon
> Add/Remove popups depending on how many kills you did in one scene. (e.g. you made 4 kills, then you will obviously have 4 popups)

A screenshot from PS (the bar to the right is essential):
image: screenie

This is how it can look like when the movie 's finished:
image: sample
(Taken from "sc0ped", 1280x720)

- You will notice that the gun looks strange but that's only because the MP40 layer is on top of the Thompson layer.

Beta:
Until now I haven't added all weapon icons. Besides Im hoping to get some advice to optimize it.
I want to see how big the interest is. Judging upon that I will know if it's worth continuing with the project and if I should make a tutorial.

Take a look at it. I don't expect everyone to understand the system. So do not hesitate to ask.



Contact me on crossfire or via msn: [email protected]
Comments
57
This actually looks even worse than ET's default popups tbh..
A black dropshadow on black text is also a great idea.
read everything please
Parent
I did. And now?
Parent
"> Add/Remove shadows or strokes (can be useful at a light background, e.g. the blue sky at supply) " - that means that it's possible to have shadows but its not neccessary
Parent
***Please read everything before you reply. You get an answer to why the samples don't look to great***
and what do you not like?
ag0n icons were really great in "et moments"
oh ye thx, that's the movie I had in mind :)
Parent
et movies are boring
hmmm maybe you should have posted when its completely done, atm it's just 4 text line text and its kinda useless.
the regular photoshop user will not need it and for the non photoshop user they will not know what to do with the layers...

a system to convert the console text with the colors stuff (^7 etc..) could be nice

waiting for more... :)
ye agree on the first you said. and about the second you wrote: seems quite hard creating a connection between et's colour commands and the converting the command into a colour in PS.. sounds cool though :)
Parent
you might have a point concidering the sample
eh? you're taking this into a whole new level. just make it look better and it might be useful for some, though whoever is doing it this way probably have their own methods already.

http://dec.pp.fi/text.avi
the people you're refering to might think over their current methods if they're take more time / are more complicated :)
Parent
I actually guessed that he got it from uvmm but he changed it slightly I believe. However uvmm popups (with icons) weren't so popular for some reason. Im not sure, but I think it wasnt easy enough to use or something like that. I dont claim that this is very easy, though it may be a possibily for people who are more familiar to ps than different etmoviemaking programs.
because the mod is one hell WIP and as i stated often enough, it was way ahead of ET moviemaking back then. No one care'd about new ideas and stuffs. This changed now and ppl want it. I did not care to make it more useful and i wont now. I still put my happy face on when i see what effort ppl put in PS to achieve stuff that could have automated :>
Parent
I was like "hey nice, hannes implented the popup thingie" till i noticed u made it look like shit and thus it was useless. that's that.

I also laugh at people who go and do that stuff in photoshop cuz they dont know how to code it instead of using your automated program that makes the popups look like shit. haha stupid people have no idea how easy it could be when its automated.
Parent
you are totally right, and as i stated before, they dont look good as they are now. But i also gave you the reason why i did not care to make them actually useable.

To bring this to an end, it was easy to implement it, with more effort it would have been a nice addition. If id do it nowadays im very sure no one would need photoshop.
Parent
too many if's. if you can do something, then do it instead of complaing that if you wouldve done it.
Parent
Do you really think that earth moves around you or something? Actually the 1st idea was from decem (and later from ruipperi at team beta clip). Can i say you stole their idea?
no you cant, since i dont copycat stuff. Ive always been somewhat ahead in the old times (bloom (ofc all credits to erik) popups quality). Its just fun to see that the stuff now becomes popular.

And no, i only think you rotate around me :<
Parent
the photoshop popups by decem are atleast 3.5 years old. And bloom was a copy cat from magarine(and his brother) work :P and anyway i haven't seen any movie using the shit bloom effect (except the rgb one) :XX
Parent
bloom came from erik, its no copycat since it was developed into moviemaker by gg67, erik and myself. Just to make that part clear (obv, you spreaded wrong shit about this aswell...)

2nd, if its that shit, why is it then being used in your so beloved image? They do the exact same thing ...

About decem, he stole it from CS then...

i like how you really try hard to bitch me baby, it just doesnt pay off :<
Parent
I stole it from CS? right, youre the only person who can come up with new stuff. this popup thing was in your moviemod, doesnt that sort of imply that you created it? I guess u stole it from cs, unless u stole it from me or ruipperi. get off your high horse already.
Parent
to be fair, i never knew you did anything in that direction before (popups). All i know is that agon wanted this stuff badly from me when he saw my pdf with the screenshot.

Just to clearify :)
Parent
well, would you mind showing any proof about image bloom? :))))))) you clearly never used image,otherwise you wouldn't have said that.

And yes decem stole from another game called cs and i stole it from him, so what? cookie?
Parent
didnt steal!!! came up with it myself. like it matters, but just wanted to make that clear!
Parent
well ye :P i meant that, my english can be tricky sometimes
Parent
i have watched the test clips agon, and they clearly showed the bloom effect ( i think they were from Frop )
Parent
you better watch again and maybe he used some post process effect (which i doubt). The image-et.exe by itself doesn't create any kind of bloom (even if there is a img_hdr cvar, it only preserves the quality of raw footage)
Parent
every filter he applies is a "post proccess" filter. he gets the image data from the ogl subsystem with glReadPixels() and applies the filtering and sampling on that data.
Parent
better not go so deeply since i can't argue due to the lack of knowledge. But i guess you got my point there (there is no bloom or anything similar)
Parent
no, i dont got your point, because there is bloom, in any kind of "hdr" implementation in image.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom_%28shader_effect%29
Parent
haha. so when exactly did u come up with this magnificent idea to have weapon icons instead of text? and let me ask you something since you're so good at what you do, why the fuck did u make them look so shit in uvmoviemod?
Parent
when i noticed that it would only require 2 lines of code in the mod.
Parent
so that means i came up with the idea before you did, copycat.

also dont miss out the second question, dear moviemaking professional
Parent
2nd question, read my very first reply, cause i think it looks shit in ET :>
Parent
well sorry to say, but youre the reason for that.
Parent
yes i totally agree. thats why i did not use them in any of my movies :<
Parent
You took my words out of my mouth. And no, hannes is not the only one having ideas for this game. Lots of people do, and it happens some people have the same ideas.
Parent
it looking awfull, popups are 2 big, they are black = they are suck, this white gun isnt looking good.
Idea is good but you should make something better :/.
as you maybe noticed I visited your profile to check how old you are and Im not surprised about your reply... and even to you: READ EVERYTHING BEFORE YOU REPLY!
it makes things easier. you can change the size, colours etc. so nothing you wrote has any relevans...
Parent
He just tried to tell you that u got a nice idea, but the material you gave was kinda useless, if you got a nice style (Font, Text, Icons ETC) so share with us, but this one isnt so good in my option aswell so you can change it to

your job:

Write a new text
add icon

ETC

If thats what your trying to do, be more specific, if not so just give ur cool font pattern
Parent
Im sure he can speak for himself (no offense). But ye I should prolly have made a perfect result. I just thought it was so obvious that the picture 's just a sample. In fact I purposely left it like that to point out that it's a template. But it seems that my message failed. However I will update some things.
Parent
Well, you got a good idea out there, take it to the end, tbh this post is kinda a waste of time, everyone can make a new photoshop page and write some texts in it, but if u want to take it to a much better place, make a good tutorial, and explain everything

for example:

the photoshop project must be at the same size as the movie project (default: 1280x720)

Use X or Y text, or take try to find some at www.dafont.com (etc)

use this pack for the icons: (upload the default icons from the pak0.pk3 file, i got some of
my own for artly/strikes ETC if u need it let me know)

when syncing with vegas (im using vegas, dno about the other progs), Set the prewview screen quality to good (full) and then press alt+shift+4, it will show the movie on full screen, and then try to catch the exectly second of the frag, then add the text for 5 seconds, with 1 second fade, 2 seconds for the you killed X font, 15 seconds fade, then when u get the second frag, right click on the text track, press event pan/crop and change the Y Center to -25 (310 -> 285) dont forget to cut the first frag text before changing the Y center at the time you get the second frag

well, i hope its usefull, use it to the next tutorial ull make
Parent
thank you for the advice.though i didnt really get what you ment by "Use X or Y text".

and to the icons: i received the white ones from another guy. the icons were also white in et moments, so it was popular as it seems.

tbh I wasnt planing to explain everything in combination with sony vegas. it's a good idea though since I could attract more people to use ps for their popups but its a hell of a job to explain both, although you explained it pretty well in a short relativly short text which i could understand.
Parent
X or Y are standing for random texts.. just suggest ur favorite

You can get the original icons from the ETmain pack -> Pk0.pk3 open it with winrar

Explain what ever you want, you can base on what i said :)

gl
Parent
please... everyone who isnt a complete idiot figures these things out in matter if a minute.
Parent
lol @ hannes

good job though Tites
Do you really think that earth moves around you or something? Actually the 1st idea was from decem (and later from ruipperi at team beta clip). Can i say you stole their idea?
NOOOOOOOOO

Why you post the psd here :<


;_;
Back to top