'The times they are a-changing'. Bob Dylan wrote this in 1963, and today that is no less true. Some have argued that ET is at a turning point. At crossroads (and now dont picture you Britney Spears, but picture Homer Simpsons on an airplane reading The Economist ).But is this the case? And if so, where are we going? More importantly, where are you going?
Enemy Territory has not switched from 6on6 to 5on5, or at least, not yet. The almighty Clanbase used to have a monopoly (or close to it) on ladders and cups. They made the rules, and others would soon follow. Of course Clanbase changed the rules often in cooperation with others. Now however, Clanbase is not being followed. At least not immediately. Clanbase has changed to 5on5, and so far stands alone. ESL did not follow, and why should they? This is their chance to be the #1 ladder and perhaps cup system for ET. Warleagues did follow, but only because they thought everyone went that way. Now, they're back to 6on6 too. The smaller cups (such like ET-Cup) are also staying 6on6. If things workout for ESL, ET stays 6on6 and they turn out to be the big winners of this 'battle'.
But we aren't there yet. Infact there is a big chance that we áre moving to 5on5. Regardless of ESL, WL and others. CPC will most likely be 5on5 (to emphasize, I think it will be) PGA is 5on5, Quakecon was 5on5. The LAN events have chosen to pick the side of 5on5. So therefore, the top clans will go to 5on5 aswell. This will have several effects. New tactics will lead to new top-teams. People will see new chances. Now let's live under the presumption that a clan will be either 5on5 or 6on6. In that case, ESL is doomed to fail. Clanbase will turnout to be the big winner. Their Eurocup will continue to give us the best of the best of online Enemy Territory. Because do we really believe we can do both? Can you?
Where we are going is hard to say. GIGA has been broadcasting ESL, a big boost for ESL ET. Because who doesn't want to be on national TV? Of course this is at the moment all a bit german-german-german. ESL, GIGA and helix. But it sure is interesting. Making clans want to participate in ESL. But on the other hand, EC has started a new Nations Cup. A 5on5 NC, and we can expect pretty much all the same high skilled players as last year. Meaning they will get customed to 5on5, and perhaps be pushed to 5on5 and thus Clanbase.
Wether or not we will end up in 5on5 or 6on6. And wether or not the main player in the cups and ladder fields will be ESL or CB, one thing is for sure, you are the one who's going to make the chance. So pick now, and see what happens. And if you pick the wrong thing, you can always chance back. That goes for the players and for ESL and CB. The times they are a-changing.
mistakes in this column included :-), its late!
Enemy Territory has not switched from 6on6 to 5on5, or at least, not yet. The almighty Clanbase used to have a monopoly (or close to it) on ladders and cups. They made the rules, and others would soon follow. Of course Clanbase changed the rules often in cooperation with others. Now however, Clanbase is not being followed. At least not immediately. Clanbase has changed to 5on5, and so far stands alone. ESL did not follow, and why should they? This is their chance to be the #1 ladder and perhaps cup system for ET. Warleagues did follow, but only because they thought everyone went that way. Now, they're back to 6on6 too. The smaller cups (such like ET-Cup) are also staying 6on6. If things workout for ESL, ET stays 6on6 and they turn out to be the big winners of this 'battle'.
But we aren't there yet. Infact there is a big chance that we áre moving to 5on5. Regardless of ESL, WL and others. CPC will most likely be 5on5 (to emphasize, I think it will be) PGA is 5on5, Quakecon was 5on5. The LAN events have chosen to pick the side of 5on5. So therefore, the top clans will go to 5on5 aswell. This will have several effects. New tactics will lead to new top-teams. People will see new chances. Now let's live under the presumption that a clan will be either 5on5 or 6on6. In that case, ESL is doomed to fail. Clanbase will turnout to be the big winner. Their Eurocup will continue to give us the best of the best of online Enemy Territory. Because do we really believe we can do both? Can you?
Where we are going is hard to say. GIGA has been broadcasting ESL, a big boost for ESL ET. Because who doesn't want to be on national TV? Of course this is at the moment all a bit german-german-german. ESL, GIGA and helix. But it sure is interesting. Making clans want to participate in ESL. But on the other hand, EC has started a new Nations Cup. A 5on5 NC, and we can expect pretty much all the same high skilled players as last year. Meaning they will get customed to 5on5, and perhaps be pushed to 5on5 and thus Clanbase.
Wether or not we will end up in 5on5 or 6on6. And wether or not the main player in the cups and ladder fields will be ESL or CB, one thing is for sure, you are the one who's going to make the chance. So pick now, and see what happens. And if you pick the wrong thing, you can always chance back. That goes for the players and for ESL and CB. The times they are a-changing.
mistakes in this column included :-), its late!
Or with his song in the 60's
(ok this is a joke)
try to think before talking plz
ffs zerender yourself
kk, I already know u won't call it work, mr.stewie...
Easy, because of submitting wrong information to others - and now those others get blamed by you, good job.
You call it battle, i call it different - We will stay at 6on6 as long clanbase is doing their own thing, as long as those lan orgas are unable to search a location for their game and gametype. GamesTV already got fucked by 2.6b and now again with less viewers due to a boring and more lucky gametype with 5v5.
Also, the IPS was planned as ADDITION to EC, and yet a second online competition with prize money. Now find someone new to blame.
No, since some rumors say the 2nd placed team of the last season is not participating, oh and night won't aswell.. hmmm, looks like your words are total b$ and just a try to push your preffered style.
Warleagues half final was casted as well as we have propose a cast to the almight clanbase, in person, donex, who disagreed and didnt want his match on GIGA.
Why make it on GIGA? You want to flame 'whining'DJ for not beeing able to like the thing you do?
GIGA is not a boost for ESL ET, its just one of the achivements done by ESL ET admins, but overall - for everyone participating in competitions and in this game - as yet another addition to itg - and for all those public noobs helping us keeping the game interesting and having ettv full and running.
not only this...
Anyway, its nice seeing someone trying to say something, its just totally onepointed and a kind of ignore what still many people want - and hey, you are just a shoutcaster, good to see you managing those 5on5 and 6on6 competitions, good to see you know how much work is behind and good to read, how perfectly you understand the issue and the problem behind it.
I still dont get the point of this column..
a) u want to flame dj, including helix and esl to have someone more to blame
b) u just love 5o5 and dont understand why others - active ET players - dont like it
c) ... ??"90309123)(§$)§"!!" ???
d) u were in spain meeting a person called donex and earned some money?
if a) use /query in IRC
if b) dont blame someone for mistakes of someone else
if c) ?
if d) sleep 1200; exit
So tell me what your problem is? The point of the column is to sum up that there is still no clear cut way to go, ánd naming the factors on which it will or can be based.
Now just because I think ESL is not a nice site to use (as is CB) and it does way more for its german community than their euro community, doesnt mean I dont like them. And im certainly not flaming FlyingDJ. But he knows that.
This is one of the points why it doesnt looks neutral.
The closing paragraph says it all...
I should have internet back on wednesday. But on the university library I also have IRC, so I might be on that around monday. Are you excited! ;-)
just another 5on5-fanyboy-kiddy who is crying now T_T
PS: I really doubt that there is someone out there in this game who has gotten more of a clan than me and Im talkin about what a clan gives the player not what teams like idle won in competitions. For me it pays off to play with my 3rd team in hx and for the other teams here with a short period I just feel compassion not using the generosity of this clan. pah idiots...
Was this Quakecon special? No. Were games exiting? They were. But it wasn`t because it was 5on5. Money was thing that made it all exciting also TosspoT almost dying during shoutcast was fun.
Sometime during summer period there was 5on5 ESL cup which wasn`t really successful in terms of people liking 5on5 and after it no one cared about 5on5 anymore. Then there was Clanbase Hosted summer cup, again no one cared about it. I participated in both of them (took 2nd place in hosted cup with my team). And sometime in the beginning of these cup`s there was poll on xfire about 5on5 vs 6on6, at first I posted positive comments about 5on5 because after playing a few games I liked it, but then I got to play it more, much more and started to understand how boring it is to play. How limited is tactical opportunities.
Then month after Quakecon come CPC#1 which was 6on6 and OMG WTF it worked, 8(?) teams gathered together and played some nice games. 6on6 may not be perfectly suited for LAN café`s but somehow, probably with help of black magic tourney was played.
After that (again if I remember correct) on xfire.be site started to appear columns, articles, news posts which propaganded why 5on5 is superior to 6on6 and why we should use it (yes why?). It seems/ed like all xfire admins is/was injected with "5on5>ALL" virus.
Then suddenly *BOOM* Clanbase announce that they will use 5on5 in future cups without any explanation why. They got plenty of successful 6on6 Eurocup`s, filled with signups Opencups, pretty active ladder. They switch to 5on5. Without a fucking reason. Fuck.
I would understand it if Clanbase ET admins would beg out from their Big Bosses ET Eurocup LAN finals with bigger prize money with cost of ET being played 5on5. But I don`t believe that such serious organization like CB couldn`t arrange 4 more pc`s to play ET on them, considering that trip to LAN would make only 4 top teams. But still, no information has been released.
Then, most recent news about Poland LAN. It will be played in 5on5. But I want to ask, if Clanbase wouldn`t announce their change to 5on5, and xfire would shut the fuck up with their 5on5 propaganda, would this LAN feature ET? I mean if the game would be played with 6on6, that would mean that polaks would just forget about ET as a LAN game and put a Battlefield 2 5on5 instead of ET?
I have been playing ET since the day of its release, and have a little RTCW background before. I consider myself skilled player, and I am playing in pretty skilled clan. I was captain of Latvia nation team, I am in game leader of my clan, I understand how ET works. And I still don`t see any worth reason to start playing ET 5on5.
People who say that they like 5on5, if you would be able to choose to play between 5on5 and 6on6 and all community would follow you, which one would you pick?
By this you mean:
1 Newspost from me saying that for CPC2 we were open to the possibility of 5on5 because most lan centers we'd talked to didnt support 6on6 in their venue setup
1 Column from me regarding the possibilities of 5on5
Thats a big amount of propoganda, 2 things!
The only reason you know CPC #2 might be 5v5, and the consequent whine / personal attacks people got was due to Crossfire's always been honest about the issue.
reminds me of something dunno what
XP = overpowered fops and medics
solution = remove xp
result = whine, but it works
6on6 = sux
solution = make it 5on5
result = whine
Why the misstrust?
1 Medic less.
#care
I'm a 3on3 player and I find 5on5 extremely crap, it's like 3on3 only with heavies and spam and tons of lotto, gg 1nadekillsmorethanhalftheteam.
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