Every week brings more and more busts and bans for cheaters who hacked on a public server. They're all being banned even if no one has ever heard of them. With ET being a free game it's very hard to trace the identity of ET players. Anyone with a good sense of technology can easily get their hands on a dynamic IP, which is very hard to trace for the Cheatbusters our scene knows today.
Now with a lot of unknown players being caught there is one group of people in ET with a very interesting position. The people active in their respective communities. Of course I'm talking about the Team Manager, Team Staff, Website administrators etc...
A lot of these people, like myself, are known in the community, though not for their excellent aiming skills, but solely for their work. What to do when one of these people is caught hacking, even if it was an old hack on a public a year ago...
The thing is that over the internet you can never tell if somebody is telling the truth, so if you find out that someone is cheating, though that person has recently changed his Nick, you can't tell if that person did that because he regretted his actions and was trying to clear his history, or that he did that because he was trying to cover up his trails.
Now the reason that I write this column is that today a manager of the respected Overload Clan has been banned from Clanbase, for a year, due to a PB Hack.
XajP, also known in the past as kIlla, is the General Manager and Founder of the Overload Clan. Now this brings me to the title of the column. Can you let a busted cheater run an organization, any organization. Next to being General Manager of Overload, XajP was also planning on co-running the EZBASH project, though is now removed from the project.
I think you can't. In my opinion you can't trust someone that has illegally tried to manipulate an Online Game in his favor, to run a community organization or project. Because these kind of people will always have an influence on others, certainly on younger players and users who will try a cheat faster than more experienced users.
The question left is; will the teams of Overload stay at the organization due to the fact that their Manager have been caught hacking, or will this not affect the relationship between Manager and Players? The decision is up to the players though I would like to say that a cheater is a cheater, this has been the policy of the ET scene for several years now and with this very same motivation, evolve's star player
perfo was also banned for a hack executed a few years ago...
I hope organizations in the ET Scene will be more careful with who they pick as their crew these days. You never know if it's a cheater who changed his name.
Shoutout to Goliath for helping out with the bust.
Now with a lot of unknown players being caught there is one group of people in ET with a very interesting position. The people active in their respective communities. Of course I'm talking about the Team Manager, Team Staff, Website administrators etc...
A lot of these people, like myself, are known in the community, though not for their excellent aiming skills, but solely for their work. What to do when one of these people is caught hacking, even if it was an old hack on a public a year ago...
The thing is that over the internet you can never tell if somebody is telling the truth, so if you find out that someone is cheating, though that person has recently changed his Nick, you can't tell if that person did that because he regretted his actions and was trying to clear his history, or that he did that because he was trying to cover up his trails.
Now the reason that I write this column is that today a manager of the respected Overload Clan has been banned from Clanbase, for a year, due to a PB Hack.
XajP, also known in the past as kIlla, is the General Manager and Founder of the Overload Clan. Now this brings me to the title of the column. Can you let a busted cheater run an organization, any organization. Next to being General Manager of Overload, XajP was also planning on co-running the EZBASH project, though is now removed from the project.I think you can't. In my opinion you can't trust someone that has illegally tried to manipulate an Online Game in his favor, to run a community organization or project. Because these kind of people will always have an influence on others, certainly on younger players and users who will try a cheat faster than more experienced users.
The question left is; will the teams of Overload stay at the organization due to the fact that their Manager have been caught hacking, or will this not affect the relationship between Manager and Players? The decision is up to the players though I would like to say that a cheater is a cheater, this has been the policy of the ET scene for several years now and with this very same motivation, evolve's star player
perfo was also banned for a hack executed a few years ago...I hope organizations in the ET Scene will be more careful with who they pick as their crew these days. You never know if it's a cheater who changed his name.
Shoutout to
Goliath for helping out with the bust.
OFC uv is clean! (ok max is a bit dirrty with his accent)
i thought you were also busted for cheating and sentenced to 5 years in prison, but I guess you got released earlier and now you have to wear that electronic leg-sensor that checks via GPS that you are sitting at your home and not clubbin' or smth
I mean if they want to spend the time for the community , I can't see any problems. Ok they aren't allowed to play in this or other cup but they can still do the organization.
Nice write up xRio :)
Cheating while you're in a new clan that is growing jeez
didn't expected from you.
And you with you're short temper jeez.
Thanks for giving us a bad name.
Fuck off i hope that Overloard will kick you away from you're position jeez.
Argh i really hate fucking cheaters.!
Its Also a restard for live!
Sorry, who?
PS: When kILLA was busted the first time, irZ's squad left overload due to him cheating.
So stupid to think that when he's done one thing bad, he would do the other thing bad too.
Also someone who has lied to the community in the forms of using a fake nick to hack and also using a dynamic IP (which I consider as a form of lying) shouldn't be allowed to perform a community function.
3 years old cheat player = care
3 years old cheat player thats becoming a manager = ban
try to get the cheaters @ fcm\offi games
I couldn't honestly care if someone polish retard (or in this case Belgian) is a cheater and decides to run a one day cup etc. For ezbash I was under the impression Adacore was going to run it?
Again, just inside infos I happen to have heard! Speculative for the win.
i dont see the connection between cheating and running a more or less respected clan to be honest. i personnally have never drawn any connection between my moviemaking and my cheating "carreer" (nor anything else im doing on the internets) and why should i? if hes a capable manager that both the community and his clan can draw profit from, why should these tasks be taken away from him? he never used hacks to either improve the success of overload gaming (afaik!) or the ezbash project and he mostly is a very nice person to talk with. so why ban a guy that takes his work for the community more serious (why would be spending/wasting his time doing all that then?) than his own gaming carrer (why would he be putting himself at risk to be busted and banned then?) ? so, to sum it all up, in my opinion, his work for the community should be put above his cheating. sure, im also speaking FOR a ban from all leagues and cups for all of those who cheated, but still you should realize that to many people (and you should know imo) this is more than just playing a game and there are more ways than just playing the game to participate in the community, hence he (kIlla) shouldnt be excluded from this page nor any else, because even cheaters can do a favour for everyone every now and then.
so, imo (and for me it is like that), often cheating is a sign of lacking interest in playing the game rather than lacking care about the community.
Then he must pay for his actions xD, and if admins think he must not run anything he just eats concequences, cause admins are free to think the worst of him. And comeon u'll find many more people who can run those things without that cheating career.
i know its a lot of text, but please take your time and read it from beginning to end and then add your statement. and concerning your example, you will not be banned or removed from any communities although you have broken the law.
So he's not the man to be trusted. Nor for managing a tournament neither for bringing the water.
I have no idea who you are :x
nhf
I meant that a lot of community workers, just like me (for the ones that do know me, are known for their work instead of for their gaming skills.
sorry but a dynamic IP doesn't install itself. he was clearly hiding things and I also have the idea that this XajP / kIlla guy is the same as the kIlla managing at VIB...
Afaik an internet provider only has to put the information about whether you get a static or dynamic ip in the technical details, when you are a basic internet user you probably dont know anything about it...
And I think "once a cheater always a cheater" , but in a small percentage I might be wrong with that statement. :p
Most of the never ending ET scene is still clean thou , and my belief is that most players are actually nice guys who hates haxx , wont have a cheater in their clans etc..
/.gob@r | last of the oldskewlers .. :)
it s not about cheating on pub or offi, it s not about the ability to run an organisation, it s about trust.
and as for trust, once lost forever lost.
cheaters dont think about concequences cause most dont think it s so bad to hax on a kid game. and they re right (after all nobody's dead).
on the other hand, they misstrust their own buddies and the all community when cheating, maybe they put that on the same level as the kiddy game itself, then it may not be important... who knows? i dont cause i got friends so i understand a little about respect and trust. :(
And what about the internet? I think your simple minded if you think you can get the pure truth out even if it's real life, it's just a litle bit more anonymous in internet(atleast in some cases, couldn't you compare a cheater with a new nick as to a man with HIV, luring you to nastines, how can you tell?).
But maybe management and gaming should be considered a bit more separated? who knows.
though the tag "cheater" is not in somebody's name when you have a like an application for a function in a staff. therefore i think if you have the rule that all cheaters should be banned, it should also count for those who want to become a manager.
Saying everyone that uses drugs regulary should look like a hobo is a kind of prejudice. And not every hobo is a drug addict(Kinda depends on if you count alcohol as a drug or not).
And I agree with you on the last part, a bit, but I think there should be exceptions if you could prove that you might be a bad player but not a bad manager. Ain't there cases with managers in real life sports which has been busted for narcotics and/or doping?
I think this guy should have given the chanse to help @ the lan(not that I think he would, but anyways.).
About Managers and cheating, with so many players and so many ways to get in touch with each other I think you're giving an entirely wrong image towards other players. And my point about kIlla was that he falsified his identity to make sure he would be trusted, since I guess he expected people to deny any positions to him when knowing he was a cheater.
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i totally agree with u that managements should be punished very very hard too, imo harder than the cheater itself.
Compared the Tour de France: Team Telekom had a "doctor" that was already involved in a doping-case 5 years ago... now they fight against the people behind the athletes: medicines, managers and stuff - and thats the right way to prevent imo
announce: a clan whose team(s) r/were involved in cheating-cases will NOT be able to participate in OC fpr 2 years...or sth like that
I have reasons to trust xajp however, and having spoken with my teams I know they don't really mind the fact that one of the managers used a cheat.
High players rly pro and have master reflexes? Or its only a conspiracy from netcoders and bielefeld(germans only>> BIELEFELDVERSCHWÖRUNG) to get the worlddomanation?
a undervalued cheat.
ghost time and demos must have the option demo_recoil 1 or ghost_recoil 1 to bust the fags using this shit.
Sincerely i dont believe in miracles and lately i have noticed too many "strange aims".
i know its not in topic with the colum but....u were talkin about cheaters :P
In the eyes of many they still can't be trusted, which in turn is the same thing as to say that they haven't paid their debt at all and in fact never fully can.
Personally, I think that people should be forgiven and allowed to move on. I also think that they should stay away from a business where their past might cast a shadow over their future credibility. For their own sake as well as for ours.
They should voluntarily step away if they have any respect and concern for the things they care about, otherwise they might foolishly end up destroying them instead.
So basically if he had already been banned he aliased to be able to still play the game, if that was true he was in the process of paying his debts and then started with a clean slate already.
If he hadn't been banned already he will pay his debts now...
I assume that he changed his name because he knew what was coming if he stayed under the name kIlla, though of course I can't be 100% sure.