Maybe some of you’ve heard about the evolution theories of Darwin about how human kind has developed itself. Well i’m not going to talk to you about all that. I’m here writing a column expressing my questions to the outer world (a.k.a. the crossfire community) on which i’d like to have an answer stated by you
ALL. This means from high skill to low skill, to not even playing this game anymore. See this as an interactive theory.
The red line throughout this entire text will be a very simple question:”what’s next?”.
I’m planning to write you some very stupid retorical questions along sided some questions who could be really decisive and valuable to us all.
First of all i’m going to pose you the actual ‘problem’. I myself don’t see it as a real issue, since it’s not a real one. But that’s only a personal opinion. I’m sure there will be many among you who see this as a key question, and that is why i’m going to pose it as complete as possible. It louds like this:’What are we going to do with the future of ET’.
It is clear that we have gained great losses with currently released games such as ET: QW, and a much larger one CoD4. There has been a topic including different sorts of intel about the actual numbers of players which still stick to ET, and the community that now supports games as CoD4. But are those losses that great as they seemingly are? Because I myself haven’t really felt a great impact. I know there are many players swapping to these games, and leaving ET for what it is, but on the other hand can we say that we had a real huge playerdrop by this? I, myself, personally share the opinion that there will be many of them who are just trying out the game, and many others who will eventually stick to ET, holding CoD4 for those moments there is nothing to do on Planet ET. Nevertheless i want to stress the fact that we have had many great losses due to CoD4 but for now i want to see this from a relative point of view. We will only know the exact impact when a new CB Opencup will show up. Then we will be able to compare actual results, and statistics which mesure the amount of clans.
Furthermore, we may have had a playerdrop, but does that have any affect on those who really want to continue playing this game? I rather have to disagree on this one. I myself think a smaller community still could work out fine. We’ve seen many OC seasons which included over 200 clansignups now, but isn’t the same amount of fun possible with only over 100 clan signups, or in the worst case only with a 50 man cup? Maybe 50 is a bit dramatic, but sometimes looking from a negative way on life could give a positive result in the end!
You maybe think that this is all what i’ve got to say about this second issue, which again isn’t a real issue. Eventhough i want to continue on this one for just a bit more. Wouldn’t it equal the ‘fun’ or even be more funny to play with a tight group of motivated players, in stead of a large group which doesn’t have a positive look on the future of Planet ET (yes, eventhough i’ve said having a negative look could sometimes give a positive result, don’t mind that for just this once ). Wouldn’t it be cool to know who you are playing against a bit more, than just having to play against yet another ‘noname’? Wouldn’t it be easier for the cheatbusters to bust a hacker if there were much less people to be watching on? Wouldn’t it be much easier to get more coverage for matches if you don’t need a 10 refs on one day, but more like 2 refs?
Yes, the game would seemingly lose its big size, would maybe lose some of its prestige, it would lose much. But it would also gain a lot! I’m leaving this issue in between, since i’d like YOU (the community) to answer it for me. If you are not up to doing it, you just put it aside, but one day you’ll have to make a decision, and it will eventually end up to what i’m saying: “Do i want to continue with a small and ‘happy’ group, or do i want to swap to a large, and non-friendly game?”. This might all look a bit childish, but don’t forget kids, the internet is serious buisiness!
As a last point on my agenda, i’m up to writing just a little more about the so called ‘skilldrop’. At the beginning of this Eurocup, and whilst it was (= is) being played, all sorts of shouts concerning ET has had a large skilldrop gained popularity. I’m not here to neglect that, nor to say it are lies. It has been visible to everyone who has just a little bit of interest to this game, that there is a big amount of so named ‘high’skill players who left this game. Eventually people are saying things which come close up to this: ET has no skill left. I say this in a quite extreme way, but some comments posted by people i know ended up to this. I have to agree with skilled people leaving, but you have to see it from another point of view aswell. Competition isn’t dropping out at all. There are coming up new teams, which now want to have that title aswell. Teams who before had not the chance to gain this title, now see they come in a closer range to it. This happens to several teams, which eventually will increase the competetive feeling! Yes it will happen on a lower level, but after a while that will be a general statement, and those so called ‘lower’skilled teams will become the new elite.
As a conclusion i’d like to tell to you all, how easy it is to break down the statement i made. I myself can come up with tons of ‘excuses’ to eliminate this theory. So if i’m already able to destroy my own theory in which i really believe, it should be even more easy for you to do so. Nevertheless it should be clear that isn’t the goal i’m trying to reach. I’m trying to let a question pop into your head, and i only got the good hopes that you are able and willing to give a solution towards it. And last but not least, i’m also trying to put a bright light on the future of ET. It’s simply because i’m a bit sick of all those ‘apocalypses’ we’ve faced now.
P.S. To not harm anyone’s ‘ego’ i’m adding this little remark. This Eurocup is still being played by ‘oldskool’ teams, regarding clans as imp., MoD, JAET, stfu... But those are combined with newer teams, who will in the end gain experience aswell.
ALL. This means from high skill to low skill, to not even playing this game anymore. See this as an interactive theory.
The red line throughout this entire text will be a very simple question:”what’s next?”.
I’m planning to write you some very stupid retorical questions along sided some questions who could be really decisive and valuable to us all.
First of all i’m going to pose you the actual ‘problem’. I myself don’t see it as a real issue, since it’s not a real one. But that’s only a personal opinion. I’m sure there will be many among you who see this as a key question, and that is why i’m going to pose it as complete as possible. It louds like this:’What are we going to do with the future of ET’.
It is clear that we have gained great losses with currently released games such as ET: QW, and a much larger one CoD4. There has been a topic including different sorts of intel about the actual numbers of players which still stick to ET, and the community that now supports games as CoD4. But are those losses that great as they seemingly are? Because I myself haven’t really felt a great impact. I know there are many players swapping to these games, and leaving ET for what it is, but on the other hand can we say that we had a real huge playerdrop by this? I, myself, personally share the opinion that there will be many of them who are just trying out the game, and many others who will eventually stick to ET, holding CoD4 for those moments there is nothing to do on Planet ET. Nevertheless i want to stress the fact that we have had many great losses due to CoD4 but for now i want to see this from a relative point of view. We will only know the exact impact when a new CB Opencup will show up. Then we will be able to compare actual results, and statistics which mesure the amount of clans.
Furthermore, we may have had a playerdrop, but does that have any affect on those who really want to continue playing this game? I rather have to disagree on this one. I myself think a smaller community still could work out fine. We’ve seen many OC seasons which included over 200 clansignups now, but isn’t the same amount of fun possible with only over 100 clan signups, or in the worst case only with a 50 man cup? Maybe 50 is a bit dramatic, but sometimes looking from a negative way on life could give a positive result in the end!
You maybe think that this is all what i’ve got to say about this second issue, which again isn’t a real issue. Eventhough i want to continue on this one for just a bit more. Wouldn’t it equal the ‘fun’ or even be more funny to play with a tight group of motivated players, in stead of a large group which doesn’t have a positive look on the future of Planet ET (yes, eventhough i’ve said having a negative look could sometimes give a positive result, don’t mind that for just this once ). Wouldn’t it be cool to know who you are playing against a bit more, than just having to play against yet another ‘noname’? Wouldn’t it be easier for the cheatbusters to bust a hacker if there were much less people to be watching on? Wouldn’t it be much easier to get more coverage for matches if you don’t need a 10 refs on one day, but more like 2 refs?
Yes, the game would seemingly lose its big size, would maybe lose some of its prestige, it would lose much. But it would also gain a lot! I’m leaving this issue in between, since i’d like YOU (the community) to answer it for me. If you are not up to doing it, you just put it aside, but one day you’ll have to make a decision, and it will eventually end up to what i’m saying: “Do i want to continue with a small and ‘happy’ group, or do i want to swap to a large, and non-friendly game?”. This might all look a bit childish, but don’t forget kids, the internet is serious buisiness!
As a last point on my agenda, i’m up to writing just a little more about the so called ‘skilldrop’. At the beginning of this Eurocup, and whilst it was (= is) being played, all sorts of shouts concerning ET has had a large skilldrop gained popularity. I’m not here to neglect that, nor to say it are lies. It has been visible to everyone who has just a little bit of interest to this game, that there is a big amount of so named ‘high’skill players who left this game. Eventually people are saying things which come close up to this: ET has no skill left. I say this in a quite extreme way, but some comments posted by people i know ended up to this. I have to agree with skilled people leaving, but you have to see it from another point of view aswell. Competition isn’t dropping out at all. There are coming up new teams, which now want to have that title aswell. Teams who before had not the chance to gain this title, now see they come in a closer range to it. This happens to several teams, which eventually will increase the competetive feeling! Yes it will happen on a lower level, but after a while that will be a general statement, and those so called ‘lower’skilled teams will become the new elite.
As a conclusion i’d like to tell to you all, how easy it is to break down the statement i made. I myself can come up with tons of ‘excuses’ to eliminate this theory. So if i’m already able to destroy my own theory in which i really believe, it should be even more easy for you to do so. Nevertheless it should be clear that isn’t the goal i’m trying to reach. I’m trying to let a question pop into your head, and i only got the good hopes that you are able and willing to give a solution towards it. And last but not least, i’m also trying to put a bright light on the future of ET. It’s simply because i’m a bit sick of all those ‘apocalypses’ we’ve faced now.
P.S. To not harm anyone’s ‘ego’ i’m adding this little remark. This Eurocup is still being played by ‘oldskool’ teams, regarding clans as imp., MoD, JAET, stfu... But those are combined with newer teams, who will in the end gain experience aswell.
i totally agree about the fact that if the community is smaller , it wouldn't make it less interesting and we can continue to play the game even with 80 or 50 teams in oc
nevertheless thnx ;)
i've reread it, but once you are full of your own words you just don't see errors like the ones you post here anymore :<
More worrying is the increasing cheater paranoia, though.
gl in OC <3
For example, a skill drop from people leaving the scene for a new game is likely to have a greater effect on Eurocup and similar competitions compared to those playing at a slighlty lower skill where there are still plenty of clans and active players.
I have no doubt that players can fill the void that others have left, however people have come to recognise the large majority of players who used to play at a high level and so when they leave and new players come in to take their places it is inevitable that people will perceive there being a skill drop if they do not recognise the people playing at the highest level, and with the high level clans receiving the most attention (as in any game) it makes it look like the whole scene is dropping a skill level.
this feeling made it look like more hackers amoung the community
like on pub sometimes you say, ye sure hacker
thx to the fact that the amount of cheaters is increasing
this gives a double negative feeling
as followed you loose your interest in the game
and you go on
but i don't want to go on because they are still real nice teams to play against and you are pritty certain none of your 6 opponents hack
these teams will continue playing aslong as they play against eachother
go ET we will never die
As long as it's fun I'll play it. ET truely is an awesome game.
Koe 4 CB Admin !
It's still the best fps game I've ever tried.
CPMA for aim and movement
Still I'm convinced with the size of the community at this moment and the teams we still have we can keep going for quite a while and have good euro/opencups in the future. They might be smaller then before but as to fun i hope we can only move forward. We will continue to support the game as much as we can(with that i mean clanbase crew(zell donex and myself atm)) and strive to further improve coverage. this is an aspiration shared by all of clanbase and not just by ET crew but i hope we can still get your support to keep doing our hobby for as long as we can with this game.
I haven't watched a ETTV match since CPC2 I think, my interests changed and I've no real interest in ET's coverage since I did it myself.
I play ET (public) and Q3 CPMA (phrantic only - against level 80-83 bot) quite often and play WoW sporadically with real life friends. Most of my time on line is spent reading or writing these days and the skill decrease in ET is of no real significance! Although it's very real and inevitable unfortunately.
It takes time for new highskillers to emerge - Not everyone needs to know them before they are "pro" and not all skilled unknowns are hackers.
Do you think the likes of mAus, Mystic, winghaven etc.. started the game as high?
(7.40am, don't know if this makes sense lol.)
and no im not saying that the game's not overrun by cheaters.
And about this eurocup, i think its bullshit with all the skilldrop talk? I enjoyed watching ettv for alot of games this EC and ithat can only be good
ET will definetly not be dead, aslong as there are few people in the community (clanbase particularly) who will keep the game rolling on
Next season is interesting. I assume few of the old clans will quit but I think therell also be comebacks. Then its up to current OC-clans to step up! There are some really good clans in OC too atm.
As for the supposed 'skilldrop' : this is just an illusion.
Compare medskilled players to highskilled players: what's the difference? EXPERIENCE. now the gaps can be filled by newer players/teams they will in time have the right experience and grow to be better and better.
I agree on your point of view about smaller communities. In RtCW at its end there were fewer people and everyone knew eachother and it was much easier to detect cheaters (like in rtcw, no valid guid = no play lol). Too bad ET can change guids so easily but for this matter it is irrelevant as ET has still a way bigger community.
I keep my hopes up for ET and can't wait to see new legends arise, ... yes they will if the witch-hunt for cheaters gets a little bit less paranoid.
and there still is
edit: !!!
Because, as koe has pointed out, not a "huge majority of players" is leaving the game.
ET = rox
or
ET = dead
?
:-)
I will play ET until I quit gaming...
First paragraph consists out of 1 enter which is enough.
Second paragraph consits out of again 3 enters, which is more than enough.
Conlusion only has none, which is normal since it's a conclusion
Small text amounts wouldnt have made my point clear, large parts makes it more look like a union.
anyway everyone has his opinion on it ;)
But let us not talk about enters, it's more about the message in the text, not the layout.
I try to beware, but at the end i will lose i think. Prolly see you soon @ ET again or not!? Dunno yet... :P
I believe in your theory about skillz
ET won't die so fast as we think...
About cheaters, I think that most of the competitive cheaters are busted, not all !
there are just too many flaws in evolution theory
Perhaps you've just been to privy to Christian propaganda, I don't know.
EDIT: If you're like 82.5% (from good old trusty wiki) of the Finnish population, then you're a member of the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland.
:-\
The pictures imply that the development between species is very similar.
But, actually it has been prooven later that all those pictures are just a forgery without any real research behind them.
I have no idea whether Haeckel did falsify the pictures. The only 'proof' assertion comes from creationist websites. Everywhere else states that they are 'allegedly' fraudulent, or that his claims were quickly discarded or improved upon early on by evolutionary biologists.
and there are more of such examples...
anyway, I don't think we should talk about this anymore in here, it's going kinda offtopic, but if u want to, we can continue in pm :)
If you want to continue the discussion in pm it's fine by me, because you've still failed to show intelligent design is more realistic than evolution by natural selection, and that evolution is mostly based on lies.
Just ignore those Amish people..
i also have to disagree when u said the et community is friendly. just take a look at every 2nd comment @xfire.. most of them are retarded and childish.
i remember times when playin et was fun and also when the community was a lil bit more serious.. nowdays u just get annoyed when u play a 6on6 because u can be sure theres some who uses hax.. and often in a very obvious way..
conclusion:
too many kids and hackers..
time is over :(