[img|left]http://www.xraygaming.com/forums/images/xray/logo.png[/img] It's that it's MEGA EASY to bypass anti cheat software, if you take a quick look at the responses to the announcement of X-RaY's introduction to ET here about half the early commenter's seem to have something negative to say.
Well since we're all experts in anti cheat technology now, lets take a minute to think about this new software may take us, and indeed where we are coming from.
How long have people been complaining about the lacklustre protection offered by Punk Buster?
How many of you instantly jumped on the DROP PB bandwagon as soon as it got exploited by cheaters?
So when offered a possible alternative, is it a shock that so many people instantly look at it sceptically?
Perhaps not, if you look at the track record of PB in W:ET you'll see that it's not really been doing a great job in the last years, and its mainly due to efforts by the cheat busters rather than software detections that any cheaters have been removed from competition. No wonder people are disillusioned with AC software.
Maybe active detection software isn't the way forward but looking at the XAC system, it gathers everyone in a single location, and keeps a database of all screenshots on a single site, surely this is going to be useful for the cheatbusters?
So please.
See this as an opportunity!
Lets do everything we can for the next few weeks to make the best product out of XAC that we can, that means giving them constructive feedback, submitting cheat codes, giving suggestions for features and pointing out any short comings the system may currently have.
Here's what I suggest, go over to their website, and register, show them that we welcome their software and will support them if they are willing to support us!
And don't forget to install the software :]
Linux users, the first thing on your agenda should be bugging them for nix support!
I'm not even running linux but Ive taken the liberty of asking about linux support on their forum on your behalf, all you have to do is show that you want to be able to use this software too..
Well since we're all experts in anti cheat technology now, lets take a minute to think about this new software may take us, and indeed where we are coming from.
How long have people been complaining about the lacklustre protection offered by Punk Buster?
How many of you instantly jumped on the DROP PB bandwagon as soon as it got exploited by cheaters?
So when offered a possible alternative, is it a shock that so many people instantly look at it sceptically?
Perhaps not, if you look at the track record of PB in W:ET you'll see that it's not really been doing a great job in the last years, and its mainly due to efforts by the cheat busters rather than software detections that any cheaters have been removed from competition. No wonder people are disillusioned with AC software.Maybe active detection software isn't the way forward but looking at the XAC system, it gathers everyone in a single location, and keeps a database of all screenshots on a single site, surely this is going to be useful for the cheatbusters?
So please.
See this as an opportunity!
Lets do everything we can for the next few weeks to make the best product out of XAC that we can, that means giving them constructive feedback, submitting cheat codes, giving suggestions for features and pointing out any short comings the system may currently have.
Here's what I suggest, go over to their website, and register, show them that we welcome their software and will support them if they are willing to support us!
Ofcourse, at the end of the day, if it sucks, there's nothing to stop us dropping it again right?
And don't forget to install the software :]
Linux users, the first thing on your agenda should be bugging them for nix support!
I'm not even running linux but Ive taken the liberty of asking about linux support on their forum on your behalf, all you have to do is show that you want to be able to use this software too..
Making a central cdkey registration site for ET would help a lot. And these 3rd party anti-cheat project are usually abandoned after few months. I'm a linux user and anticheat that does not support Linux when the game itself is ported to linux, is not usable imo.
so I really are for a change of the anti cheat tool but I do not think that the already announced and published are the right ones.
e.g. this one does not even have linux support and the only thing it does is making screenshots which is already hacked in the actual PB and will not be that hard to hack again i guess...
jus think about it , it has no new ideas just a new name and maybe a bit more active developers. (imo)
i dont know what idiot started saying it ONLY takes screenshots but there you go
the screenshot system is better as anyone can look at the results not just the game server admin.
but still as long as there is no linux support it will not do it :<
it also must be somehow good programm if tossi announces future cups with it^^
If it doesn't work, Xray seems to have the same memory scanning system PB uses, but the cheatbuilders don't know what exactly it searches for, so either way it'll be a good improvement (for a while).
So since this anticheat software is clientside only, there's no real need to add linux support, just enforce it for windows users and let linux users play without it (which is pretty much what's already happening now with punkbuster)
That punkbuster does (virtually) nothing on linux is irrelevant to this point. (no one is able to avoid the program by saying he uses linux, he is forced to by the server)
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Oh and it only works with WinXP and Vista, so e.g. Win98 users are excluded as well.
(I guess the admin could use the etpro /cheaters command to determine the OS and then only check for screenshots from Windows users, but that would mean that you still put your trust in etpro IAC.)
Now tell me how to find out which OS that users who are not using XAC have.
you will see win32 = Windows
linux = linux
or Unknown = like mac or other unknown O.S.
linux = Windows with cheat installed
My point is that you can't just let Linux users play without XAC as Decade said, then Windows users with a cheat that spoofs the OS info would be able to play.
It bans people for 100 year once they cheated. The best punishment.
If someone has cheated, what makes u sure that he won't just edit his guids and play on with another name ?
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Glad we could bring you on board. We aim to make the best Anti-Cheat possible and are most definately up for suggestions etc
Before you flame please take into account:
a) we are only trying to help at the end of the day.. we are gamers ourself so we DO address issues like CPU usage/usability etc
b) http://www.xraygaming.com/index.php?pageid=stats as the stats show, it IS working (448 hackers caught in just over 4 months), and we hope it will continue to keep your games cheat free into the future :)
c) it is FREE to you :)
d) any probs or suggestions please leave feedback, as I said, blinder and myself are gamers, so we will do our best to help :)
U are doing what u cant to work against people that uses cheats and for that more players should thank you and say "hey what can i do to help?" "instead of u suck..."
Either way, thanks for supporting our favourite game!
But i think most of the problem is the players attitude if u have a cheater on ur team many think oh hey its not a problem since his a nice guy on vent. but when they play against cheater they go crazy and leave in the middle of a match. and if cheater play someone who they think is cheating they leave cuz its not fun to play against a cheater. so good tip is to not play with them or aginst them if u play aginst someone who u know is cheating leave!
(Who is cheating then?)
(sourCe)
No thx and gtFo.
That's fucking bullshit not supporting linux.
I know the chances are really small but it might happen that someone has a radar/enemy spawntimer/whatever right where your logo is.
Make it transparent?
But seriusly, I do agree with you:P
As I said before, chances of that happening are really small but you never know.
lets give it a try :}
i wanna keep on cheating, i'm just playing 1 or 2 times per month and only on publics ... cmon guys
Anyway, already spammed the unblind's forum topic twice: )
I'm curious what they will reply. Maybe they really think that linux anticheat is impossible to create?
:<
is it fps or rts ?