Enemy Territory is on just another one of its seasonal peaks, now that the Fall season comes to the hot phase and Crossfire Intel Challenge was just announced with atleast 5000€ of prizemoney to be won by Enemy Territory teams. Impressive numbers one might think for a free, buggy released game that is already over 6 years old. But the question we should ask is, where could or morely should we have been by now?
Prizepurses alike 5000€ should really be more than enough to atleast attract a small number of MGC's to pick up stable ET squads, reliable enough to tag up with their name. National lans in Portugal, France, Germany, Poland and maybe some other countries, one or two Crossfire challenges a year and a few online tournaments including smaller funds. Thats all happening ladies and gentlemen and again the question comes to my mind, what should we have made out of this?
A wise man once said the following:
It is quite disappointing to see that these words might become reality now; two years later. Shouldnt we have learned by now?
I must admit we did succeed in this. It was not another IPS but already the third ESL Major Series featuring Enemy Territory and thus seen as a top 15 game of the ESL EU section. But just this, what we built up with alot of effort and work, is at risk right now. The elite of europe's Enemy Territory scene have the one time chance to prove that we did learn and do deserve the money invested in our game. But if from these elected 16 teams six consider to just drop out of the running Major Series competition, it inevitably shows what our competetive community really lacks of. We dont need new maps, new rules, new anticheats or whatever. It still is the same old problem.
Stick together and create a base level of professionalism so we can make proper use of the chance the new 5on5 movement gives our beloved game! It is not too late to get back on track. Else I forecast an unfortunate future!
Prizepurses alike 5000€ should really be more than enough to atleast attract a small number of MGC's to pick up stable ET squads, reliable enough to tag up with their name. National lans in Portugal, France, Germany, Poland and maybe some other countries, one or two Crossfire challenges a year and a few online tournaments including smaller funds. Thats all happening ladies and gentlemen and again the question comes to my mind, what should we have made out of this?
A wise man once said the following:
It is quite disappointing to see that these words might become reality now; two years later. Shouldnt we have learned by now?
I must admit we did succeed in this. It was not another IPS but already the third ESL Major Series featuring Enemy Territory and thus seen as a top 15 game of the ESL EU section. But just this, what we built up with alot of effort and work, is at risk right now. The elite of europe's Enemy Territory scene have the one time chance to prove that we did learn and do deserve the money invested in our game. But if from these elected 16 teams six consider to just drop out of the running Major Series competition, it inevitably shows what our competetive community really lacks of. We dont need new maps, new rules, new anticheats or whatever. It still is the same old problem.
Stick together and create a base level of professionalism so we can make proper use of the chance the new 5on5 movement gives our beloved game! It is not too late to get back on track. Else I forecast an unfortunate future!
I hope the 5o5 format will change things in a near futur.
wars are destroyed by flaming ingame, on gtv, on CF. Its more popular to leave nowadays from servers with a lot of flaming, instead of just saying "well played". Not to forget about CB admins, who are winning matches afterwards by bending the rules....
this game wont be safed by big prize moneys or more lans, it will be saved if we all return to some fun and fairplay...
how many times do we see some new player here on CF asking in a forum thread maybe about some tricks/sens suggestions or anything else? and what is happening to those guys? they got flamed mostely... I wouldnt eiher stick to this game, if my first experince would be something like that...
join a ETTV nowadays! I got the feeling its more about showing your e-penis by flaming and whining, then to enjoy a high-skilled match. Nothing against a good flame btw :>
NoQuarter or other mods get flamed all the time, but lets face it, there are more fun-mod players out there, then et-pro players. I also started on EtPub back then and srsly, sometimes i ask myself if i would have had more fun during all the time sticking to it...
ET died in my eyes, when we started to ban via demos, thats it for me :>
there needs to be a greater level of professionalism and i guess respect in the community but at the moment its 'good' to overly flame
also i think there needs to be more support for 'noobs' to help train them from etpub to etpro to a good competitive level
that guy is way to drunk to cheat ^^
nice read.
it can be hard to get 6 guys available with even a weeks notice, but when you end up with like a day... just not gonna happen
in my case, the old YYT team was on the point => going trough from now till cic7 or fold, and after talking to some teammates we decided it was better to fold
so my new team only wants to play 5v5 + your rules wouldnt allow us to add 3 members to celsus/yyt team
its btw cool how you generalize all clans as if they would all be unstable or folding after 3 months, the old YYT team was the perfect example teams can go on for a long time
My opinion on what you should do => ask all teams if they want the playoffs in 5v5. If there's more pro's than contras then you should change it + allow some more line-up changes after groupstage. If people don't want the playoffs to be 5v5, I won't care, I will just prepare the lan with my team and won't care about EMS.
Just my thoughts
Also only because one team isnt as stated in the column it doesnt mean I failed to generalize. Name me more than 50% of the teams and you'd have a point, but not only one.
i mean if you start gaming on a professional level it requires more than just 2 - 3 hours a day to play some praccs and maybe an offi.
the amount of guys remaining with that intention is simply too small already to keep this game running again.
back in the days this wasnt a problem and there ve been plenty of guys playing it as much as possible. but the most of the early generation already became too old for playing computer games (maybe they are already having a great job or whatever).
it would require newcomers but what newcomer starts playing a game like enemy territory with real profession?
sure the amount of teams on the crossfire challanges has never been a problem but the amount of those so called top teams was pretty little with the last two editions.
i guess most of the teams on the crossfire challange just came there one or two times just to have some fun, not to fight for the great pricepot.
and exactly thats what i m talking about. it requires people playing it with true profession and the will to win that money, whatever it may cost.
teams like idle.ee just came back to et when there was money to win...
When thinking of "good old times" the average age of community was not that high. I played a way more at the age of 16 than the age of 20. I could devote my nights purely to ET which meant a lot of more games. Nowadays don't want to spend all my evenings playing the same game anymore.
I guess that is the problem these days, old farts don't want to quit, but just want to play for fun. The younger players get flamed too easily and called noobs at the beginning of their shining carreers. Though those players are the ones who form teams which prac 2-5 games a day with tactics, 6 days a week. That in my opinnion, is more professional than the way top teams play for fun.
I have nothing against them, they have already achieved their peek in ET and realize than still can keep on with the new players. If more teams like masculine_mans (which ain't NEW team, nor NEW players, but new faces on top level) rise and shake the order at the top, maybe some of the old pros would like to prac more, 10000€ a year for a team is enough for most to prac more than once a week :P
the amount of pracs has absolutely nothing to do with team's performance in ET after the team has played together for ~3 months.
average benelux kiddie med+ team could play 30 hours a week for 2 years without any progress. when you are shit, you are shit.
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shit is shit
last season we atleast had some big names playing in mediocre teams
but this season is officially the lowest ever in ET
ppl used to say "yeh aim developes worse players will get better, aim is now 10x better than before" but imho the overall level has gone down so bad that its hard to describe it
u can make 10x lans but you cant create a competive and interesting atmospere with shit players
but so is everything else too ;D
Not that i would win smth on a crossfire lan, but it's only 1 hour travelling for me, so it doesnt cost that much money/time
let it die a honourable death
Same goes for WoW though its the most played online game : p
I think that this moving to 5on5 format should maybe have happened 2 years ago, when it was a hot topic. If we would have done that step back then, maybe ET would have evolved better.
But you this whole 5on5 attempt is definitly the right way to prevent ET from slowly dying, of cousre with the risk of a sudden death, but also with the chance for a revival!
In my opinion, the ET scene needed a change! And changes never happen without taking a risk also! Youre doing the right thing.
As manager of french (to be complete, I've to say french speaking lan, with frenchs, belgians and swiss players) ET lan, our big problems with organisnig an event were, even the fact it take a lot of our personnal time, that we haven't good facilities to do it.
Unless having more funds by sponsors to rent correct computer and install a network in some room, we must play in cybercafes where we can't decide decent hours and we have to play from saturday 8 PM to Sunday 4 PM with only 16 teams.
So, we have organised two national lans this year, in february and august. But first, we can't continue on that rythm, so the arrivance of a new staff will probably make us more motivate to organise a new lan. Then, I'm not really motivate to organise an eventual realan 4 in a cyber.
In addition to that, we've got many problems with people registered which drop 5 days before, we tried to get teams a no mixs, and stable teams even 2 weeks ones. But months after months, this type of teams disappeared. I really don't know how we will manage an other lan.
(once again, I'm sorry if my words are not really understandable, but I really need to prac english more.)
wise words btw
I also agree with that money could be the boost for someone to play game but how long they would play game only for money? If you were playing for money there would be no passion nor commitment to job what they are doing. And if they are really like that in 'real life'(what is difference between e-life and reallife, since in E-life you are still you?) they will have problems if they think it is easy to switch things just like snapping yourfingers.
I enjoyed ET while I had stable team behind me and it was fun to play. The most long lasted team I played in sticked together for 10months and it was great time, we didn't win much but at least it was fun but the day of doom came cause we couldn't take the next step to highest level. It didn't fall on couple defeats which now days can kill teams in no time. Basically it kills everything which is fun in gaming.
EDIT: Might be a bit OT, but anyway it is near enough of this subject.
And as for game sense, seems like its 5 rambos vs 5 rambos, or 6 rambos vs 6 rambos all the time now, teamplay and game smarts are forgotten in et and its a shame :<