As everyone already noticed, ClanBase have announced the groups of the upcoming OpenCup, both 6vs6 and 3vs3. As usual, the whine about the groups is starting, but if you look at the 6v6 groups of the moment, whine might be on it's place.
Of course, ClanBase is doing a great job by hosting yet another OpenCup for every ET player and for the Supervisors it's hard to make the groups, but on the other side, it's also weird that for such a huge organisation alot of mistakes have been made?
Every human makes mistake, they are born to make them, but also to learn from it and correct them. ClanBase added 2 new admins to their crew, named Zell and Insecure, where I've never heard of before and who might not be able to do such a job alone. Insecure is Co-Supervisor of the 3v3 OpenCup together with Supervisor Adacore, and those groups are currently looking nice, but on the other side, at the OpenCup 6v6, Zell had to make the groups all on his own and you don't want to know how much work that is!
As the Supervisor of the OpenCup 6v6, Anaconda is currently somewhere around the world enjoying a holiday, Zell had to make the OpenCup 6v6 Groups all alone. It's of course very hard for a "new" admin to make groups on his own, but he also could have asked other admins to help him (if CB allows that) or let them share there knowledge.
In this article, I've posted some swaps that can be made before the start of the upcoming season. I guess it's a good idea to correct the groups before the start of the season, but that's the choice of ClanBase itself.
I'm not blaming ClanBase or any of it's admins for anything, it's great that they are putting so much spare time into there cups and that they are providing the community and it's players with another great season. Therefor the community is able to do something back, for example you can post your thought as a comment, so the admins can read them and use them to maybe make some swaps in the cups.
(Useful comments from clanleaders will be added to the article when I've time)
Please don't post any whine comments, just post some feedback on the mentioned changes and your own thoughts on what ClanBase could change.
Update: Some last season information has been added.
Of course, ClanBase is doing a great job by hosting yet another OpenCup for every ET player and for the Supervisors it's hard to make the groups, but on the other side, it's also weird that for such a huge organisation alot of mistakes have been made?
Every human makes mistake, they are born to make them, but also to learn from it and correct them. ClanBase added 2 new admins to their crew, named Zell and Insecure, where I've never heard of before and who might not be able to do such a job alone. Insecure is Co-Supervisor of the 3v3 OpenCup together with Supervisor Adacore, and those groups are currently looking nice, but on the other side, at the OpenCup 6v6, Zell had to make the groups all on his own and you don't want to know how much work that is!
As the Supervisor of the OpenCup 6v6, Anaconda is currently somewhere around the world enjoying a holiday, Zell had to make the OpenCup 6v6 Groups all alone. It's of course very hard for a "new" admin to make groups on his own, but he also could have asked other admins to help him (if CB allows that) or let them share there knowledge.
In this article, I've posted some swaps that can be made before the start of the upcoming season. I guess it's a good idea to correct the groups before the start of the season, but that's the choice of ClanBase itself.
I'm not blaming ClanBase or any of it's admins for anything, it's great that they are putting so much spare time into there cups and that they are providing the community and it's players with another great season. Therefor the community is able to do something back, for example you can post your thought as a comment, so the admins can read them and use them to maybe make some swaps in the cups.
(Useful comments from clanleaders will be added to the article when I've time)
Please don't post any whine comments, just post some feedback on the mentioned changes and your own thoughts on what ClanBase could change.
Update: Some last season information has been added.
I've no doubt they have become stronger in the past months and I think you could see that against snd of vae (dunnow what team it was) sunday.
So imo they should be left in Premier League.
Edit: And I don't think bangelijk desearves a Premier League spot, I would rather give it to the Portugeuse division of K1ck e-sports.
And thanks for rating us to the Premier Division. According to the pracctice and cup-results I totally agree. But our problem is that we were out after the 1/8-final last year caused by many lu changes at this time.
Oh, I didn't know Zell had to do the groups alone. So I take my flame back. :D
Last season in finals of 4th division (yeah missplaced 2 seasons in row) we have beaten cVs - they are in 2nd div. and we are in 3rd div...TBH thats sad :(
You shold never count on the rating that the clans themselves do, but only use them as guidelines for the lower and more "unknown" clans; just a little tip :)
i like the old groups :D
Well maybe clans should play some ladder officials or cups.
There is oneday cup every fucking week. You can arrange ladder games every day. Now what you are saying that some lazy inactive shits should just get some raiting for doing nothing?
There is ladder for a reason to keep community active and clans active. I dont understand why clans dont play ladder games. As usually they dont have time etc. Well if you dont have time then you dont have time for OC or EC.
If even 80% of clans would play ladder now and then the result of ladder atm would be different. :(
Maybe the first 2 oc's that i didnt play..
If a team of new players with no skill and no experience would rate themselves 10/10 would you put them in premiere?
I guess you wouldn't...
While making groups you should base your choices on what you or a friend of yours knows about a team. This should provide you a list of teams which can play on a particular level. Then you should check the teams rating to create some even balanced teams.
As an example lets look at the OC 3on3 groups. Imo premiere group is very well balanced and you can't be sure who's going to win it. There might be a few surprises. But you know, an unexpected win o loss can make a cuo even more interesting.
3on3 premiere group C (TWK, Voodoo-gaming) also seems nicely balanced. You don't know whose going to finish first.
Now lets look in 6on6 groups.
Premiere league group A:
It seems that art or venue is going to win this group easily. After that we might have an interesting battle for the 2nd place. Yet if for example bSTURZ played there the competition would be breathtaking, cause we wouldn't know who finishes 1st and who 2nd.
The rest of the group doesn't play on a premiere level.
Premiere league group B:
The situation is similar to group A. Vigors is going to have a walk in the park for the 1st place. Other teams are playing way below their level which makes this group less interesting because we have a certain favourite.
Premiere league group C:
This group is rly nice. We might expected a few entertaining matches, especially FBI vs suXus.
Premiere league group D:
Even balanced, yet nowadays the clans playing in it represent a level below OC Premiere. The battle for playoffs is going to be hard, yet no clan from this group will achieve in them anything.
Premiere league group E:
overrated and vae are the favourites. However aGu and ESVKA may be a decent opponent. This group is one of the most interesting in Premiere.
Premiere league group F:
There might be a few interesting matches in this group, well done.
Premiere league group G:
Unknown clans playing on a unknown level. Exchanging the whole group (except shidima, who might surprise us) with clans like overdose and other mentioned playing in 2nd league will provide greater entertainment and a level more appropriate for premiere league.
Last but not least... Premiere league group H:
Voodoo gaming or silentium will finish first. dnb is going to be the easy bash i this group.
Summing up, bSTURZ should play in group A in order to provide hard fought battle for the 1st place. In group B 3 and smg (or at least one of these two) should be exchanged for teams 'put-by-mistake' in 2nd league. 1/2 teams should be exchanged in group D for someone who might show a good level in the playoffs. Group G seems to be below the level regarded as 'OC premiere'.
I hope this comment will prove useful either in making some changes to the groups made or it'll be taken into account in the future.
If someone agrees, disagrees with my opinion or has a completely different point of view in this case please write it, cause speaking that the groups suck and not providing any alternative is a waste of time for the supervisors and for youselves.
Your point of view about violence is surely wrong.
and clanbase should realy consider remaking the groups, its sad to see when premier league clans are looking pcw-s for mid skilled...
Their knowledge would solve the problem of worse teams playin' in higher leagues, which is common nowadays.
Btw, the rating system is worthless. If a noob clan of which the ppl making groups have no knowlege of rates itself 10 they might get a spot in premiere, because their abilities are based only on their self-raiting, not on their true level or recent performances.
but whatever, used to these crap decisions now :l
we won from vagrants tonight so we should go to oc premier?
please. i agree with you but dont judge them with their "name" if i can say.
we didnt play together for about 1 year, and i dont think we have something to demostrate to wannabes. Most of ppl know VgS already.
We didnt signup in time for oc and Zell found a place for us anyway, so i will not blame him about the division we are playing in. he did a nice job
:)
we did pretty well in 3o3 ( lost 3-5 vs dfx and was a rly close game in offi ofc ) can you add us to the "Second League to Premier League"
stop saying luger is crap :)
Like, why should bangelijk be moved to premier leauge if we won them in the Benelux cup 4:0 ..
really like that sentence
Nevertheless, thanks alot for doing some coverage on the swaps.
why did you take bangelijkdlkxjfku in premier (clan is dead).
plasa ?? lol wtf
rts wtf
nice knowledge nxm
die of aids plz