Supply crane bug abusing
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14 Nov 2011, 00:04
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http://www.gamestv.org/event/29180-bsturz-vs-disqonnect/
hummel pummel using crane bug --> its okay
I have never seen anybody following this cranebug rule. So why is it there anyway?
You just can freely use it and say c'mon we got 4 mins we have won this shit anyway.
This is actually the point of this case.
hummel pummel using crane bug --> its okay
I have never seen anybody following this cranebug rule. So why is it there anyway?
You just can freely use it and say c'mon we got 4 mins we have won this shit anyway.
This is actually the point of this case.
Violets are blue.
You probably thought this was a poem.
Nope. Chuck Testa.
crane was totally stopped while the pause was on, so we didnt win a single second, but we lost the map by forfeit, we were attacking in first round, we finished the map in less than 6mins.
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cockti?
i always register on websites with different names
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right hand?
only bdiz can actually play his game
actually "fireBall" did and he give a shit.
The same was in a eurocup game and also in OC game and aslong as you didnt lose by 10-20 sec it changes nothing at all.
But everyone was dead on full: (forgive me my paintskills hahahaha)
http://666kb.com/i/byn8c6sauzv6j00cx.jpg
all 6 dead on full so noone can shoot a rifle/pf or anything else and after it, they didnt manage to go out of the spawn, truck didnt stop any single sec. We was in west/east towers and on spawn.
Anyway was a good game, dunno why swanidius give bsturz now the image of bad losers.
gl sinnu,fuchs & specula in future.
Swani:
I have never seen anybody following this cranebug rule. So why is it there anyway?
The most rules are there from 2004/05 and? and like you said noone still follow them since 2007? Because its bullshit with the crane control. Like i proof up they cant stop it, we build the crane controls and everyone was dead + they spawned then 5 seconds later, what kind of change can happen ? :)
cheers gn
but you're wrong
I would give you a yellow card for that.
was with Garym8 though so with proper admins
the fact that you're gloating about none of you giving a fuck about your unreasonable pause, describes what a cunt you really are.
i 'spose swani cant claim that the unsportsmanship like behaviour affected the outcome of the round, but he does have a point, which your puny head can't comprehend.
1 fop with full charge
3 medics
1 smg engi
1 rifle engi
It is childish and what is wrong with this community.. (& most part of the world)
It is the same behaviour as children throwing garbags upside down while they are drunk or throwing beercards throughout a bar, just to get attention & to do something that is not allowed.
They should be punished & so should fireBall (+ his team) for pausing intentionally on a moment which he obviously knew wasn't allowed. Even if it didn't matter.
u should at least get a yellow card or something
but its not just a question of time
most players can understand that if the truck had just finished loading when you spawn instead of it already being outside east wall you have a greater chance of setting up a defense and stopping the truck early on
if the truck wouldve been at the back it wouldve actually made a difference to the gameplay since you can exit axis spawn from the back and still maybe get a frag on the allies escorting the truck
in this case axis really didnt have a chance, going up the backway would take too long so they all had to rush up main and easily got killed
10 sec added to the truck loading phase might have played a huge part in the game
there is the spot, not sure the outcome would have been very much different though :P
whats the discussion here?:D there is nothing to argue about, i remember jyrkz, popz, mAnki getting a forfeit because jyrkz went 999 and pressed pause and it was a coincidence the truck was loading, they had like 5 minutes to attack or so left.. that was in CB, so I see no reason why the buguser should not get forfeit..
fuchs and humm3l fighting against each other?
sounds like something wed normally only see at the asylum
Why they dont say anything about a decider after adler? because they face it that this was a clearly rape by dQ.
regards sandmann
and this talk about not asking for decider:
I have no idea if the others could play more though, probably not. :P
It's like trying to play competitive BF3. First opponent will be cool and the second team will play with lame with infrared and tactical lights. Bye motivation.
I can understand why they left, as your team ruined their motivation to play a decider/3rd map against a team like you. I'd go like w/e too and just request a forfeit win.
You germans think that you can get away with ANYTHING... ANYTHING when it comes to war.... Well, guess not. There won't be a red cross or church this time to help you out mister Odessa
The only thing up for debate is whether disQonnect lost Supply only, or the whole match. I'd personally change the whole result into 1-0 for bSturz since disQonnect refused to play decider.
Im off to bed now, nighty nights.
The fat russian subhuman thinks that he can actually use the cranebug in an official match? :DD
What a fucking retard :DD
when bsturz attacked, they built crane at 7:44 , and dQ defended 4 min that last stage,
when dQ attacked, they built crane 0:11 secs slower and paused right then for no reason,
and bsturz didnt get the chance to defend last stage, which can be easily hold for those remaining 3 min on time, so actually bsturz would have defend less time that last stage.
also at end of map 1 guy asked for decider..
and wtf anyways , seen many times people automatically loose the map for doing that crane shit, so either play decider or just forfeit win for bsturz.
np
ty hui sosesh?
So the truck could have moved right away after the pause by the allied team. This made sure that the methods(think and act) for axis and for allied changed. The moment everything stood still except the gold is about 10 seconds? In those 10 seconds the axis could've killed all the allied, and set up a new defense. And this ofcourse creates a possibility to hold the attackers for the needed time. It's a small possibility, but it is a possibility the defending team the axis didn't have. So hereby allied have cheated an extra possibility for them.
It can only be balanced if the defending team will try later to defeat the time, in stopwatch round 2. Also pauses once button of the crane is pressed.
Since the defending team had attacked already( it was round 2 already) there is not a way to restore the non-fair balance.
A method to not create the possibility of bug-abuse (time advantage) is to, or once button pressed which allows you to move the truck right away. The other options is to implant a pause after the button is pressed.
So due you(abusers) can't accept that you cheated. We have to adapt the game (map in this case) in such way you can't cheat. You also don't like it if people you play against will cheat with wall hack and aimbot. Then don't cheat yourself either with buying time.
This map should be a win for the team which had due this event the disadvantage. The bug at supply crane is in most of the rules. Thereby you had the information to not pause at that moment due map "bug".
Now feel the consequences: you lost the map supply.
Madness? THIS IS JALLAAAAAA!!!
just not this one, since some teams are stronger in the last stage than others, throwing off the balance again...still somewhat, yea :P
And if you can see that we can make this a part of the game. We can due this "mistake" make games where you can stop time as fast as you can after you pressed the button. The human which trained the best with this knowledge will be the one pressing pause fastest after pressing the button.
So from every mistake we can learn to give the balance a different shape.
If the balance was stable, a human wouldn't have made a mistake.
(and i doubt that it was a "mistake", what are the chances?)
rebalance always favors the one disturbing the original condition
the thing about the crane bug, is that you cant see into the future.... if you pause at that point in the game, you dont know if that 3 minutes left on the clock will be enough to win...so that 10 seconds youve stolen, might win or lose the map for you. you've made that choice to think "fuck, we need 10 extra seconds" , sorry, youve forfeighted the map. not match, but map.
Deal with it.
its not just adding 10 seconds, it makes a totaly new game
from what ive seen the rules say its not allowed, so there u go, why are u arguing
We could ignore the specific rule about the crane pause completely, and it still wouldn't be legal.
an unintentional bug abuse happened and those kinds of things made the admins include the word "intentionally"
pausing with 999 in allies would be a non intentional advantage - basically just a weird coincedence??
but what if someone just minimizes his et to get 999 ingame shown, tho he actually isnt any disconnected and his team pauses onto this, since they planned it in ts? any possibility to proove this as non intentional pause to others (just a fictive question to make things look a little bit more clear what intentional means)
no outsider can definately say if such a speficic pause was intended to gain an advantage or jsut random coincidence.
i remember getting a forfeit loss years ago, cause we paused on grush while the tank was about to blow the bank doors (which he did in pause!) right b4 we spawned we hit 20 secs and sapwned up tank spawn as allies and not at cp spawn.. we had like 10 mins left in round 2 to get the tank.. still we got a loss for bugabusing - tho in the end we won with 6 mins left on the board!
in the end this whole discussion is more or less about priciples and sticking to to them - or not.
I'm always, I mean ALWAYS for following rules but this with pause is very dodgy hence the word "intentionally" included
sniper rape time
sad that im not a 6on6 ladder supervisior...