ESL wire if TZAC shut down

by MENTh • 10 Dec 2011, 15:54 • Journals
http://www.esl.eu/eu/wire/anti-cheat/

What do you think about that?
Why no one talked about it yet?
Discuss..
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Danje 10 Dec 2011, 15:54
One thing.....

££££££
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Specula 10 Dec 2011, 16:04
thats a good program, I already played with this because I played some offis bfbc2 and bf3. GOOD IDEA!
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noodle 10 Dec 2011, 16:06
smells funny, i dont like it
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MENTh 10 Dec 2011, 16:09
because ppl are always scared of what they dont know
Remember with slac, was kinda hard to trust an ex cheater and his anticheat
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noodle 10 Dec 2011, 16:10
i dont use slac either, smells funny
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MENTh 10 Dec 2011, 16:12
then your point is useless since your not an ET player anymore :(
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JamPanda 10 Dec 2011, 21:47
i think his issues are health related... most likely a smelling problem
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quebratolas 10 Dec 2011, 16:09
Recommended specifications
CPU: SingleCore: 3 GHz | MultiCore: 2,5 GHz
RAM: 2048 MB
OS: Windows XP SP3 32bit
Windows Vista SP2
Windows 7 SP1

THE FUCK IS THIS !!!!!!

a virus ?

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MENTh 10 Dec 2011, 16:10
"These specifications are recommended, but that doesn't mean that the program cannot run on PC with lower specifications. The main influence has the game, so you should always check the system requirements for the game you want to play."
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quebratolas 10 Dec 2011, 16:13
no plausible justification for those requirements
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MENTh 10 Dec 2011, 16:18
they just said it depends of the game you use ESL wire for :)
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dEzIrE 10 Dec 2011, 16:54
omfg thats like specs of the stoneage, dont go full retard just cuz you dont have a decent pc..
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quebratolas 12 Dec 2011, 15:20
my pc is not the problem, it can handle everything

now, those specs are awesome for an anticheat
so..

NO U
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dEzIrE 12 Dec 2011, 16:10
then wtf are you complaining about
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quebratolas 12 Dec 2011, 16:37
u dont find anything strange on those specs ?

waw
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dEzIrE 12 Dec 2011, 16:38
wtf do i care whether its a heavy program or not, as long as it works
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nevaeH 10 Dec 2011, 16:12
ESL Wife , what a joke
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MENTh 10 Dec 2011, 16:16
so what? if there is no more TZAC we should all stop playing ET? or play with cheaters?
Argue please
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nevaeH 10 Dec 2011, 16:42
Bah écoute , les ladders ESL sur ET sont mort , et ESL Wire est trop vulnérable
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MENTh 10 Dec 2011, 16:46
y'a la wintercup qui vient d'être annoncée et puis le retour de la 6o6 ladder :D
et puis ESL wire peut être utilisé pour d'autres compétitions non?
En ce qui concerne la vulnérabilité malheureusement si TZAC n'est plus on a pas trop d'autres alternatives :/
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Panda 10 Dec 2011, 16:22
Won't use it.
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MENTh 10 Dec 2011, 16:31
do you play with tzac?
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Panda 10 Dec 2011, 16:40
Only when I have to, sure.
Can't be bothered with anything any more, just the same with all the data collection shit too.

I'm just happy playing at random pubs and stuffs
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MENTh 10 Dec 2011, 16:41
yes i understand, but thats because tzac is still running mate, what when it wont be anymore...
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aiRen 10 Dec 2011, 16:23
Try it. Better some anticheat than no anticheat
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Weslann 10 Dec 2011, 16:32
It's very good actually.
Busted many many cheaters @ Counterstrike source
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PreZ0r 10 Dec 2011, 16:34
lets switch now, tzac is useless anyway atm
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fumble 10 Dec 2011, 16:53
looks good
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Edgar 10 Dec 2011, 17:04
Is there any option to see ingame who's using it?
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kiwi 10 Dec 2011, 17:16
good to hear :)
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beck 10 Dec 2011, 17:16
Waiting for Foamea's feedback. I guess it'd be the right choice to save what's left from the community :)
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FoaMeA 10 Dec 2011, 17:31
check below :)
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eiM 10 Dec 2011, 17:21
I remember betatesting it for ET. It surely would be better than nothing (if TZAC dies), but I would not expect major support or development from the ESL side except the activity in the ET action would significantly rise due to this. Considering you can only use it for ESL matches this should happen, but even combined ESL and CB ladder activity is far from what is needed to gather interest in ET from ESL officials I am afraid.

Its all about activity and matches ;)
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FoaMeA 10 Dec 2011, 17:29
We were thinking of introducing ESL Wire before SLAC/TZAC was in the attention. So the time alocated for testing the ESL Wire in the ET section was decreased due to already having an anticheat, at that time.

However, we're now looking into it as it will probably be the only proper anticheat that ET will have, and it will be updated a lot, hopefully. ;)

Still, it will be available only for ESL official matches(seasonal leagues, ladder matches), gather matches and for other features that we want to implement.
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beck 10 Dec 2011, 17:36
That's a pitty :/ You can't realease for praccs games (irc) at least ?
Even if we can't use it on CB it's no big deal.

What we need basically is a league, a ladder, pracc games with a decent anticheat.
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FoaMeA 10 Dec 2011, 17:40
You're not going to be able to use it for IRC matches, only because it's meant to be used on ESL...

But you could use the ESL ladder/gather system to prac, and there you go, you can use the anti-cheat.
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caej 10 Dec 2011, 18:10
Honestly I think it would be awesome to play 6v6 'pracs' as 6v6 officials (in ladder)!
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FoaMeA 10 Dec 2011, 18:43
sarcasm or not, ladders are made for players to practice before an important competition...
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caej 10 Dec 2011, 19:06
Not sarcasm. I hate playing just orginal 'prac' wars and would like to play officials as a prac war. Why? Because original pracs mean nothing!
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beck 10 Dec 2011, 18:16
You mean we'd have to set up a game on ESL.eu in order to pracc vs another team ? oO
It takes too long :x
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FoaMeA 10 Dec 2011, 18:43
That could change with ESL Wire as everyone will play ESL ladders :D!
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beck 10 Dec 2011, 19:52
I understand your POV but you have to admit that, when it's a usual pracc day, it's way easier to go on IRC, type 6v6 anyskill hs and get the ip.
People cba connecting to a website, play an official ladder game, wait for it to be accepted, have to set it up to a specific hour and everything that goes with ESL conditions. It's way more restrictive and I think that you should extend ESL Wire's specificities to ET itself, not only ET+ESL.

That's my POV. And I think yours, even if I'd do that myself, would kill the community.
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Kenzi 10 Dec 2011, 20:49
Thought already of taking chaplja in your ranks?
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ironic 10 Dec 2011, 17:31
QuoteIt is correct that Wire Anti-Cheat collects and saves information.


So not gonna download it
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FoaMeA 10 Dec 2011, 17:31
The german law is pretty strict about collecting "personal data". So don't worry about that... :)
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ironic 10 Dec 2011, 17:35
I just don't feel comfortable about it tbh. Which data will be saved? What if I have some data on my pc about my bank account or something.
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FoaMeA 10 Dec 2011, 17:38
I already said that your personal data(as in bank account etc etc) won't be collected due to german law which prohibits it...
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Vanhaomena 10 Dec 2011, 18:33
QuoteIt is correct that Wire Anti-Cheat collects and saves information. What information is collected is listed in the Licence Agreement. The collecting of data is exclusively used to find Cheaters and their possible Fake Accounts. No data or information about your pattern of use is accessible to a third party.


Read the agreement before asking. You can still deny it if you disagree with it, that's the whole point of an agreement even though most people never read them.
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ironic 10 Dec 2011, 21:54
Couldnt find the Agreement, but I didn;t really looked for it that hard
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eiM 10 Dec 2011, 20:19
definately less than Punkbuster and maybe even less than TZAC ever saved (no idea about TZAC here) ;)
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M1st3r 11 Dec 2011, 00:56
you are right here bro ;) hai :P
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eiM 11 Dec 2011, 11:05
hi noob, we no longer coworkers :<
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M1st3r 11 Dec 2011, 16:15
;( i miss it =(
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belto 10 Dec 2011, 17:32
C'est pas un nouvelle anticheat qu'on a besoin mais un nouveau jeux.
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ecklav 10 Dec 2011, 18:16
Useless answer, wrong forum, go play another game.
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ecklav 10 Dec 2011, 18:15
Can't ESL take chaplja and make it ESL-AC or someth?

Because no offense to ESL Wire, but I don't think it can do the same job as chaplja did on tzac.
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M1st3r 11 Dec 2011, 00:59
and now the main question:

tzac / slac / etpro / was MADE in first instance ONLY FOR ET. Later on, some other games were added, but ET was the main aim from that AC.

How the **** do you pretend an AC developed for ~20 games or so to work better than chaplja's ?

It may work better, or not, that's obviously a question you will never have an answer unless it gets 'officialy' used.
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ecklav 11 Dec 2011, 01:04
I don't get your point, I don't like the language you use tho :o
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M1st3r 11 Dec 2011, 01:10
what don't you understand? i admit my english sucks, but thought it might be understood :x
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ecklav 11 Dec 2011, 02:52
I can't understand what side you pick.. ESL Wire of TZAC :/
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rEZHnI 10 Dec 2011, 18:47
it's not about the anticheat guys, it's all about 6on6! ^^
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vj7o 10 Dec 2011, 18:55
it's all about business
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