Gaming as a part of my life
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Probably, not like the most of people around here, my gaming so called career started because of my dad. I don't remember exact date but i think it was 2003. He showed me this game called Enemy Territory, simply by letting me log in on an empty server and driving around on Fuel Dump. I remember being to scared to exit the tank as if some one could take me from behind or because of a smart sniper, just sitting there up in the mountain, just waiting for me to exit the tank to humiliate me in front of nobody. As soon as a couple of players joined he made me switch with him just so I wouldn't make him look bad in front of bunch of no ones. Obviously this is not a healthy way to deal with a kid (I was around 9 or 10), but I didn't realise that at such age. At that point I wanted more which ended up dragging me into world of Jaymod, xp-save, communities, cheating and so on.
I remember being young and careless. I didn't give a crap about homework or important tasks, gaming was a big part of my life. I can even fast rewind a couple of years which most of went to ET. Right now I find it amazing as well as horrifying how something as irrelevant as video games can ruin someones youth so badly. If only I had the mind to tell myself STOP!
But that is not what my story is about. The story is about how someones life can be wrapped in the whole amazing community of ET.
At first I was just messing around with my dad. We were playing some 1on1 maps, we had some mild problems, the other player always appeared as if playing dead on Jaymod. I still don't know what was the problem back then but it was fixed soon after some patches came out. After that I got dragged in some NQ communities, which soon expanded with many other mods as Jaymod and others (I've been so distant from the whole community I have even forgotten mod names). After playing hard for a long time but without any success (I wanted some admin lvl or some regular lvl back then so bad) I found trickjumping. I still remember being amazed by how someone could develop such speeds in this tricky gaming engine. It took me about 6 months to become a decent TJ'er. But it gave me some leverage against other "noobs" on all the jaymods and so on.
At this point in this story we have reached year 2007 or something. I was still active on community based servers, at that point it was FA. I met a guy who called himself Sfinx or Sfinxter, it's been so long I don't even remember. He dragged me into ETpro which seemed pointless to me at the beginning, I mean, no xp save or cool promotions, what's the point?? Soon after I realized players were more skilled and training on such servers (yes, I had started to look at ET as a sport) meant improving my skills. Soon after Sfinx invited me to play with him on a couple of fun matches with his mates, I felt so excited as if this would've been a big success. After a while we even tried to make a team (recently, somewhere around 2010 beginning or so), we had even met one other guy from Latvia which meant 3vs3 possibility had opened up but because of our (my) lack of time the whole idea broke down. I was visiting my dads in USA, I had a summer job and so on. After this it sort of hit me-if I wasn't active enough, my skills weakened, it took me a week or so to get back on my top performance.
At this point I was in front of a decision-to either go hard on gaming or to take back control of my life. It took me a long time to decide, I didn't want to give up all the time I've put into gaming even though I didn't see any growth possibilities in this field. It was stupid, I know, but after a while I did make a decision-I've cut of ET out of my life. And I am satisfied with my choice. Few years back, if I had been put in front of a decision-to go drinking with my friends or to play a fun match with my mates, I would definitely choose a fun match.
What I want to say with this whole huge article which I'm sure won't be read by so many people is-do you really want this whole thing to be a part of your life? I've missed quite a lot from my life just because of this and I am sure, if I will ever have kids I will never make such a mistake my dad made. And I am happy that I've cut off this addictive monster called ET (as cheesy as it sounds). I still play video games, one particulary (Live for Speed, not relevant) but it just stays as a part of entertainment for rainy nights or a need to kick off some steam when I am to tired to go out or to work out. ET is really a commitment, you can't be good at it if you don't go serious on it.
But what I want you all to ask yourselves is-is it really worth it? Spending your precious time on something as trivial as games when you could go out, have fun with people you don't even know or simply catch up on some delayed tasks? Whatever is more important to you. Just don't waste your time on something as this. Trust me, it's not worth it...
I remember being young and careless. I didn't give a crap about homework or important tasks, gaming was a big part of my life. I can even fast rewind a couple of years which most of went to ET. Right now I find it amazing as well as horrifying how something as irrelevant as video games can ruin someones youth so badly. If only I had the mind to tell myself STOP!
But that is not what my story is about. The story is about how someones life can be wrapped in the whole amazing community of ET.
At first I was just messing around with my dad. We were playing some 1on1 maps, we had some mild problems, the other player always appeared as if playing dead on Jaymod. I still don't know what was the problem back then but it was fixed soon after some patches came out. After that I got dragged in some NQ communities, which soon expanded with many other mods as Jaymod and others (I've been so distant from the whole community I have even forgotten mod names). After playing hard for a long time but without any success (I wanted some admin lvl or some regular lvl back then so bad) I found trickjumping. I still remember being amazed by how someone could develop such speeds in this tricky gaming engine. It took me about 6 months to become a decent TJ'er. But it gave me some leverage against other "noobs" on all the jaymods and so on.
At this point in this story we have reached year 2007 or something. I was still active on community based servers, at that point it was FA. I met a guy who called himself Sfinx or Sfinxter, it's been so long I don't even remember. He dragged me into ETpro which seemed pointless to me at the beginning, I mean, no xp save or cool promotions, what's the point?? Soon after I realized players were more skilled and training on such servers (yes, I had started to look at ET as a sport) meant improving my skills. Soon after Sfinx invited me to play with him on a couple of fun matches with his mates, I felt so excited as if this would've been a big success. After a while we even tried to make a team (recently, somewhere around 2010 beginning or so), we had even met one other guy from Latvia which meant 3vs3 possibility had opened up but because of our (my) lack of time the whole idea broke down. I was visiting my dads in USA, I had a summer job and so on. After this it sort of hit me-if I wasn't active enough, my skills weakened, it took me a week or so to get back on my top performance.
At this point I was in front of a decision-to either go hard on gaming or to take back control of my life. It took me a long time to decide, I didn't want to give up all the time I've put into gaming even though I didn't see any growth possibilities in this field. It was stupid, I know, but after a while I did make a decision-I've cut of ET out of my life. And I am satisfied with my choice. Few years back, if I had been put in front of a decision-to go drinking with my friends or to play a fun match with my mates, I would definitely choose a fun match.
What I want to say with this whole huge article which I'm sure won't be read by so many people is-do you really want this whole thing to be a part of your life? I've missed quite a lot from my life just because of this and I am sure, if I will ever have kids I will never make such a mistake my dad made. And I am happy that I've cut off this addictive monster called ET (as cheesy as it sounds). I still play video games, one particulary (Live for Speed, not relevant) but it just stays as a part of entertainment for rainy nights or a need to kick off some steam when I am to tired to go out or to work out. ET is really a commitment, you can't be good at it if you don't go serious on it.
But what I want you all to ask yourselves is-is it really worth it? Spending your precious time on something as trivial as games when you could go out, have fun with people you don't even know or simply catch up on some delayed tasks? Whatever is more important to you. Just don't waste your time on something as this. Trust me, it's not worth it...
To answer your question, NO, it really is not worth it.
As for my self, I'm addicted to this game. My dad fucking hates it. He doesn't let me play it and what not. I mean I can see why. As much as I tell my self I'm not addicted I know I am. It's an amazing game. I wish I never found out about it, so I wouldn't waste as much time as I do on it now. At least I'm not skipping classes to play ET. I have a job and I managed to get As in all my classes and a B+ in one of them.
As for you, I really respect the fact that you were able to make the decision to not play this game. I wish I could do the same. And I would also never show my kids this game or any game that is addicting as this. This game is so fun, it's so hard to quit.
dont think I lost much tbh from spending that much time in gaming, I actually learned some things (not only about games), I met amazing people really, I miss talking bullshit on vent/ts or whatever, I miss so much things actually but yeah, "real life" is somewhat a bitch but can be nice.
I skipped so much classes in my life (probably not only to play tbh, but when I didn't want to do anything else I was just coming at my pc), skipped so much things in my life and missed some others but it's definately not because of gaming
Been playing publics for 5 years tho, and started playing ETPro around start 2009.
It kind of ruined my youth, yeah, but as long as I'm successful in my life, I'm not going to regret any of this.
Could write a wall of text as well but I can't be fucking arsed to do that at 6am lol
Nice read though, reminded me of the good ol' days on |>B<| :')
Nostalgia nostalgia...
I stopped playing on their servers like... 1 ½ years ago, and I haven't seen any of those people, who I used to talk to..
/q Goku #ALMIGHTY.ET if you want :)
Im happy to play ET, started it playing 2004 a friend show it to me and i was like omg nice game, i still play it, started playing it in clans middle 2004 and still playing it... had my "first love".. n shit , finished school normal as others , weekend party . after school join pubs till into night or went out sometimes, ...
WoW was hard for me ... ~ 1 year i was hardcore playing it in 2007 but then i said to , that cant be longer my life.. woke up - play go sleep... that was hard and i dont want it back :X
If i would quit ET i would miss something and its nice to think back and say myself : ,, it was awesome " ...
Is it worthy ?
Yes! if you dont lose your priority of life
i mean as long as you feel joy when playing games its just as much worth it as going out gettin drunk or hanging with friends, because seriously...the things in real life you do instead are probably also as unneccessary as gaming, you may grab a pussy or two instead yes, but in the end you dont miss much
i quitted et a while ago already, due to not having too much time (and if i got some time, i would sleep/browse pages instead of gaming anytime), but im pretty sure that i got some people over the internet, who would be better friends to me than any of those guys i got in real life anytime...
(and no, im not forever alone or socially awkward penguin, but people you meet in real life are more or less all backstabbing and devious, friendships over the internet however are alot more loyal,honest and not so pretending because its build upon totally different values)
therefore no, its definitely not wasted time in my view...but as i stated before, the only thing which might be a problem is that you probably miss out some sexy time with the ladys due to being not as often around outside your room (if you got a gf already however, this point may not apply)
e: column plx!
Look on my profile. Look on my profilepic. Do I look like a nerd to you? Seriously I dont. I have a lot of friends (500 facebookfans :D:D just kidding ;D). I meet my friends nearly every day. We go party hard a lot and I got still enough time to play football, go to the gym or go to the cinema with my mates. As i said. ET or CF is nothing bad. It is just important to differ between reallife and e-life. If you cant manage this, then this could be a monster, right. But same goes for things like going shopping, playing football, learning for college etc. If you spend too much time on it, you wont have a realllife.
So dont call our beloved game a monster, just because you couldn't handle it.
e: you say it in a way as if we dont have any reallife at all. I mean do you really think we are all some kind of nerds who never go out? Do you really think that we stay every day in front of the computer without doing anything else? Who do you think we are ? Some UBERNERDS?
And as I've said before, the world reacts towards your outside actions and appearance - it doesn't not matter owho you are inside( on some occasions but not on the above) - if you want to receive the currect feedback you desire, you need to act accordingly.
Today i even helped you smartass to find a proxywebsite. just typed proxy on google and the first link was yours.
So this makes you to a dumb faggot. it doesnt matter who you are inside ! Maybe you are a genious inside, but you didnt show it today :o so you must be freaking stupid, because you dont know how to use google. next time you want to receive the correct feedback then please google before making a new journal. then maaaybe people wont think that you are so stupid
source: http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=journal&mode=item&id=138008#comment3093522
And don't get me wrong, am grateful for your help earlier( intact I take some of my word back due to that). I was in a rush as I had limited time. The first thing I did was make a safe journL- solution so in case google doesn't help me, I have other sources that I can rely on.
Ofcourse most of us have real lifes besides their online life, but for some, and also for me in the past, it's really hard to not get sucked in the e-world but to keep in contact with the real world too.
It's a good thing to be aware of the "danger" of gaming. I know one guy who doesnt meet with anybody anymore unless he has met him in Wow before. He goes to wierd places all over the world to meet fellow WoW players, while he doesnt keep in touch with most of his old friends anymore. Most of them forgot about him because he's gaming a minimal of 4 hours everyday.
everything you said is ok since you are not a pro xD
btw stop defending yourself just cuz you ranked 7 @ no-lifer list :~D
Most of the longer stories on crossfire, are boring. But this one is great :).
Everyone of us will someday get the encounter to end ET.
We all have our reasons. I highly doubt any of us would prioritise ET over RL.
We do it because we have nothing else to do, welcome to internet gaming.
We dont do it, because we have nothing to do. We do it, because we like to do it. We like the sideeffects. We like to hang around with friends in teamspeak. We like to get to know every day other people from all over the world. We like to built up strategies on different maps. We like to improve our teamplay. We like to win together and we like to lose together. We like to write our opinion in the internet and we like that people write honest answers on your problems (friends sometimes just want to cheer you up..). We like many parts of gaming and this is why we are playing it and this is why we are spending so much time on it.
i don't regret my gaming time like someone said above either play hard go pro or don't...
Short story: I agree with you, despite the fact that I don't regret my entire gaming past, it's not worth it. Even if you are having health problems, focus more on getting better and less on fighting boredom, it's great to escape reality for awhile, you just need to remember you will have to return to it eventually :D
ET never was any problem for me.
WoW was my problem couple years back, spent like 1½years playing it. Played till night, wake up after 2-5h of sleep, go shool, come home play till night repeat.
WoW was one reason i stopped all my sports basicly.
Another one my back :<
I don't regret anything and I would do it again.
Nice article mate and keep going :)
nice stereotype
Really happy now! keep on playing CANCERRETARDS
I went from potential drug abuser (lol), to well respect gentelmen (which I still am lolll)...
And I must say ET was the best time of my life (apart from GF and child), and I wouldn't change that for anything.
Sometimes I wish I could go back to them times, and have as much fun as I did back then... everything on ET seemed soo good to me.
I played 3 years solid of ET.... and I loved every moment... yes it affected my lifestyle and schoolwork... but so what? I turned into a better person, with a lot of pateince... before I had none, I beat kids up for fun, now I can stand there and honestly be calm...
in 2006, I cut my long hair, when I went to prom... everyone was shocked, and to this day I have short hair, and I'm still the same person, and I still listen to heavy metal...
4 of my school friends played ET as I got them into it, but we all have to grow up sometimes :(....
ET 4 EVER IN MY HEART..
But there are also the people you play with. If you focus on the social aspects (go to LANs, meet in real life), ET can be beneficial to your life. However, staying in touch after you quit gaming is very difficult imo, unless you share other interests.
but to be honest, if you cant decide between friends and gaming there is definately something wrong with you, nice that you solved this issue by yourself. Surely i also preferred playing over learning often enough in past, but still theres a limit and i never choose gaming over meeting friends.
ET is addictive idd, and it gets even more addictive the nicer people are youre playing with :-) ... but now as the game is obviously dying quite fast, most of my buddys also draw a line under it, the will to continue this game and investing time is close to 0 anyway (at least for me)
e: i do not regret anything by playing ET and other games over the years.
Just about where you draw the line really?
Got told to start playing this game back in 2005, my nephew and reallife friend(s) of mine were playing this game too. SO thats how i started to play this game. About a week later, my dad started to play the game too on his free-off weekends/evenings ;)
After 1 year free-lancin' on different public servers, i found a community which fits me in some way.. |>B<|Bunker2, i still remember some members of them such as |>B<|St!g, |>B<|Falkes,Saevio,Kaizi,Goku-san1993 enjoyed the game with them.
The reason why i started to play ETpro was because of the Bunkercup back in the days 2008 & 2009.
xx loveeeee, - my english sucks on iphone, oh it sucks anyway -
Edit: Both going out & gaming can be fun. Just do what you like the most.
I started playing ET in 2006/2007 or something. My friend showed me this game, which he found somewhere on the internet. I thought it would be fun to play with him so decided to download the game aswell, and play some jaymod with him. I still remember when I first joined into the game, toke the panzer, and failed hard :-). Weeks/Months passed, and at some point, after scrolling for the 1000th time in the server list, I saw a new thing for me. Server called NQ. Decided to join it, was like 'wut' when I saw the new weapons which soldiers had, and played it. Meanwhile, my friend joined 6b, and the more serious ET scene, while I was still on .55, making some fun in Jaymod. He asked me if I would come to 6b, didn't want at first, but I decided to come anyway. That was like 3 years ago. :-)
I remember being young and careless. I didn't give a crap about homework or important tasks, gaming was a big part of my life. I can even fast rewind a couple of years which most of went to ET. Right now I find it amazing as well as horrifying how something as irrelevant as video games can ruin someones youth so badly. If only I had the mind to tell myself STOP!
But that is not what my story is about. The story is about how someones life can be wrapped in the whole amazing community of ET.
At first I was just messing around with my dad. We were playing some 1on1 maps, we had some mild problems, the other player always appeared as if playing dead on Jaymod. I still don't know what was the problem back then but it was fixed soon after some patches came out. After that I got dragged in some NQ communities, which soon expanded with many other mods as Jaymod and others (I've been so distant from the whole community I have even forgotten mod names). After playing hard for a long time but without any success (I wanted some admin lvl or some regular lvl back then so bad) I found trickjumping. I still remember being amazed by how someone could develop such speeds in this tricky gaming engine. It took me about 6 months to become a decent TJ'er. But it gave me some leverage against other "noobs" on all the jaymods and so on.
At this point in this story we have reached year 2007 or something. I was still active on community based servers, at that point it was FA. I met a guy who called himself Sfinx or Sfinxter, it's been so long I don't even remember. He dragged me into ETpro which seemed pointless to me at the beginning, I mean, no xp save or cool promotions, what's the point?? Soon after I realized players were more skilled and training on such servers (yes, I had started to look at ET as a sport) meant improving my skills. Soon after Sfinx invited me to play with him on a couple of fun matches with his mates, I felt so excited as if this would've been a big success. After a while we even tried to make a team (recently, somewhere around 2010 beginning or so), we had even met one other guy from Latvia which meant 3vs3 possibility had opened up but because of our (my) lack of time the whole idea broke down. I was visiting my dads in USA, I had a summer job and so on. After this it sort of hit me-if I wasn't active enough, my skills weakened, it took me a week or so to get back on my top performance.
At this point I was in front of a decision-to either go hard on gaming or to take back control of my life. It took me a long time to decide, I didn't want to give up all the time I've put into gaming even though I didn't see any growth possibilities in this field. It was stupid, I know, but after a while I did make a decision-I've cut of ET out of my life. And I am satisfied with my choice. Few years back, if I had been put in front of a decision-to go drinking with my friends or to play a fun match with my mates, I would definitely choose a fun match.
What I want to say with this whole huge article which I'm sure won't be read by so many people is-do you really want this whole thing to be a part of your life? I've missed quite a lot from my life just because of this and I am sure, if I will ever have kids I will never make such a mistake my dad made. And I am happy that I've cut off this addictive monster called ET (as cheesy as it sounds). I still play video games, one particulary (Live for Speed, not relevant) but it just stays as a part of entertainment for rainy nights or a need to kick off some steam when I am to tired to go out or to work out. ET is really a commitment, you can't be good at it if you don't go serious on it.
But what I want you all to ask yourselves is-is it really worth it? Spending your precious time on something as trivial as games when you could go out, have fun with people you don't even know or simply catch up on some delayed tasks? Whatever is more important to you. Just don't waste your time on something as this. Trust me, it's not worth it...
tbh you need to be rly talented to make a living out of gaming, if you can do that, np !
for myself, i ditch gaming since i joined the army
and i put myself rly hard in the army
and today im a very young and respectable officer in my unit
they send me to tones of very expensive courses :XD
np simply find YOUR FRAME
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- you become smarter on insights imo (if you play competitive)
- your reaction ability becomes better
- you become more fluent in english (if thats not your native language)
- you meet and hear new ppl from other countries and so you are basicly learning about other cultures in a way you don't even realise it
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Yes, spending my precious time on something I enjoy is definitely worth it. Gaming does not exclude one from going out and having fun with people (I hope this doesn't mean merely doing drugs which is even more shallow and destructive than gaming). Your idea of the required commitment for "gaming" in general sounds like something you'd expect from Korean StarCraft professionals, even relatively "serious" ET is very casual.
As for your question: Before I started gaming, I was very ignorant, cheeky and just immature as fuck. It kinda sounds silly but I met people through gaming who kinda brought me into maturity.. Also, I've visted places I never would have visited before, learned a lot about countries I never would have, and met some cracking people. So yes I think it's worth it. I don't really regret anything, because I have a good life, job, and go out at the weekends, while gaming during the week.
I think part of what you're saying is true, but i think you need to take gaming in global vieuw cause if you look at WOW you see a lot of the same story's apearing...
When it come's to me i think i kind of never had the chanse to get into it that bad.
I started playing ET when i was 13 or 14 years old and at that time i had to play on the only computer that was in the house, which was located downstairs some meeters away from the television where my parents were watching tv in the evening. So basicly my parents could see everything i did onthere.
Ofcourse i got quite addicted to et and wanted to play it all the time, so my parents gave me a limit of playing games to 1.5 hours/day or something. Ofcourse everytime they weren't home i was playing all day xD
When i got 16-17 years old i got my own pc in my room so i was basicly able to do anything i wanted...
But as i was older i didn't realy want to play et all day. Whenever there were friends inviting me to go out or to come over to their home i'd just say bye on ts or vent and shut down pc and have fun in rl.
That's also the main reason i was never realy good in ET. A lot of players were just always laughing at me because i'm always the noob, eventough i play ET for 7 years or something ( don't know exactly how long :s).
But i don't realy care, i still play this game whenever i don't have money or energy to go out because i love this game and i'll always will. And in some way you could say i'm addicted to this game when you compare it to other games. But it never ruined anything in my life for me, it only gave me great moments.
I did fuck up 1 year of university though but that was for totally difrent reasons.
Conclusion :
Maybe it is because my parents gave me the limit and never let me spend all the time playing et.
Maybe that's the reason why i later on decided to not waste all my time to play et while i was totally able to.
I don't know but it will certenly have some influence on it.
But it hink it's important how you look at gaming.
There's no way i would have put gaming before smoking weed and drinking beer with friends, listening to some d&b back in the days (chillin out as fuck xD ) or playing a game of football (or whatever sport) with friends or go out to the clubs in the town and dance with pretty girls and come home around 6-7 o'clock in the morning or go for a game pool/snooker/bowling and other stuff like that.
Everything is trivial anyway since in the end you just end up rotting in the ground, or if you prefer it another way you can also end up in an urn.
If you enjoy wasting your time doing <insert acitivity x>, then that time was not wasted.
Yes, it's worth it! =)
You have two dads?
Glad to see I was one part of your path to nolife. :D
I have a couple of friends who are relly addicted to gameing as such. They are around 28 and still live at they parents house with part time job.
As long as gameing doesnt interrupt my RL(going to work, finish studies, go out with friend or gf) I think it is worth it. Somethimes when we get together with my friends we just play some games cause its lot of fun and laugh. Also you can meet a lot of nice ppl on TS/Vent. And then again there are those LAN events where these "nolifers" are getting kind of "life.
"So yes I put my so called real life before gameing. Gameing is for fun for me - such as traveling or climbing. You come back from your work/school very tired and just chill with your E-friends and I dont really see anything bad it that because feelings are real. But if I had to choose between chilling on internet or going out with my girlfriend I would choose my girlfriend with no thinking.
I have travelled, finished lots of schools , learned so much whitch is just amazing and I wouldnt change those years for sitting at my PC.
If you drop the phone because of gameing when your friends are calling you then I would consider to drop gaming or reduce it at least. Life and world is just too beautiful.
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