New PC Builds

by MerlinatoR • 30 Dec 2011, 21:20 • Journals
after visiting a few websites and getting nothing worth speaking of in terms of feedback, I bring it to trusty crossfire.

currently in the process of getting a build together for a couple of new PC's, they would be pretty much identical and the foundations would at the very least be pretty much the same, currently looking at:

Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS IV EXTREME Rev.3.0 Intel P67 Express Socket 1155
CPU: Intel CPU Core i5 Unlocked 2500K Sandy Bridge Quad Core
GPU: Gainward GeForce GTX 560Ti "Phantom" 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express
RAM: Corsair Vengeance JetBlack 16GB DDR3 1600MHz XMP Dual Channel Desktop
PSU: Seasonic X-850 850W PSU

dont need anything else but the above, any heads up on the combos would be appreciated - currently the Ram and the mobo are my main areas of needing reassurance =)
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adetonian 30 Dec 2011, 21:24
where u plan to get em?
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MerlinatoR 30 Dec 2011, 21:26
I will get the parts from ebuyer / scan / overclockers and a little list of online shops I have, basically wherever anything is cheapest :P
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zaNc 30 Dec 2011, 21:27
ask www.overclock3d.net, very helpful community. Just tell them what u need the pc for abd ur budget. Also check www.aria.co.uk since ure from the UK
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Baz 30 Dec 2011, 22:19
I mainly use aria, mostly find them cheaper than scan and overclockers plus it's only about 30 min drive here :)
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D4ve 30 Dec 2011, 21:28
why 850w psu?
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Niels 30 Dec 2011, 21:32
850 W PSU is over kill 650 is more then enough for that setup or planning on future SLI? than still 750 would be fine.
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homiee 30 Dec 2011, 21:33
i dont know anything about this shit

but happy 2012 in advance merl :)!
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mamouth 30 Dec 2011, 21:38
16GB DDR3

WTF :D
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Nicolah 30 Dec 2011, 21:42
don't get a 560 with 2go, just go for a higher rank or just buy 2 gfx card with lower perf
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beAsty 30 Dec 2011, 21:44
16GB Ram isn't really need except you do a lot of multi-task working. But even then I never managed to run out of 16GB RAM :P

It is usefull if you:
want to disable the paging file
often use 1-2 virtual machines

8GB is a must for me and in 90% enough. 12GB is a secure amount and 16GB is just in case you don't care about some more €. Also stay with 1600Mhz or even gett the 1333Mhz RAM.
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HellKn1ght 30 Dec 2011, 21:48
RAM is sooo cheap atm, it's worth buying 16GB even if you don't need it yet :P
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waXx 30 Dec 2011, 22:04
where do you find it cheap then? :p
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MerlinatoR 31 Dec 2011, 01:00
16gb only costs £120, its cheap enough for me not to think too much about it.
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HellHammer 30 Dec 2011, 21:45
Complete overkill
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crook 30 Dec 2011, 22:03
Sort of :DDD
But perhaps he wants something which will last him for awhile.
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squalli 30 Dec 2011, 22:48
guess I went even more overkill then:(
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Niels 31 Dec 2011, 02:04
What did you get squalli?
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squalli 31 Dec 2011, 03:42
CPU: Intel i7 2600k w/ Antec Kühler Box
MotherBoard: Gigabyte Z68AP-D3
Graphics: PNY GeForce GTX 580
Memory: Kingston HyperX 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz
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Niels 31 Dec 2011, 03:55
Looks great but why did you take the 2600k over the 2500k?
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squalli 31 Dec 2011, 04:17
dunno rly, had the money so just went for it :p
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rsp 31 Dec 2011, 06:23
Perhaps because the 2600K is better.

Sure the 2500K would've been sufficient enough but the way you asked made me reply.
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Niels 31 Dec 2011, 11:46
I asked it because I had to make the decision myself aswell. for gaming the 2600K almost doesn't have any benefits. but if you are into multitasking or video rendering it helps out alot with the hyperthearding it has that the 2500K doesn't.
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D4ve 31 Dec 2011, 13:52
2600k isn't realy better, hyperhthreading don't make a cpu better cause u can get problems when u wanna game with it.
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D4ve 31 Dec 2011, 13:54
why not gainwards phantom 580gtx with 3gb memory? :D
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squalli 31 Dec 2011, 14:06
cos that 580 was on sale, only 399€!
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D4ve 31 Dec 2011, 14:06
lucky guy :D
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MerlinatoR 31 Dec 2011, 01:04
my last PC was complete overkill too, I bought it around 4-5 years ago, it has lasted well but I need an upgrade. This will cost around £1100-1200 so isnt extreme and should be fine for the next few years.
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HellKn1ght 30 Dec 2011, 21:55
What will these be used for?
Why did you choose that mainboard?
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MerlinatoR 31 Dec 2011, 01:05
main PCs - gaming will be involved (:D) mainboard as I always prefer Asus over anything else and prefer to have a real quality mobo.
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rsp 31 Dec 2011, 06:45
To be honest you'd cope with a less expensive board just fine.
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HellKn1ght 31 Dec 2011, 10:52
The reason I asked is you can save a lot of money if you buy the least expensive mainboard that has only the features you need. If you don't plan to use SLI/Crossfire and don't want to seriously overclock, there's no point in spending so much money on the mainboard. If you want to spend the money, you'd benefit more from a Crucial M4/Samsung 830 SSD instead.

RAM: It doesn't really matter if you get 1333, 1600 or more. You won't notice a difference.

The PSU is overkill. I'll build a similar system in April and I'll be keeping my 500W Enermax.
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Ruben0s 30 Dec 2011, 21:55
Mobo: Asrock P67 Extreme4 Gen3
PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W
GPU: MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC

Way cheaper and you will get the same performance.

I would go for an AMD gpu because you will get more bang for buck, but I have no idea what you want to do with the pc. Maybe you want to use CUDA.
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D4ve 30 Dec 2011, 22:10
amd < intel
msi gfx < gainward gfx

some years ago there the amd cpus were better but the quad/hex core cpus aren't that good then the intel cpus are.
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Ruben0s 30 Dec 2011, 22:12
whuuut, I said AMD gpu not cpu :)

and can you tell me why gainward is better then msi? The only difference between the cards is the cooler. And they are both high quality.
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D4ve 30 Dec 2011, 22:37
msi has more power but the cooler is running like hell and make too much noise and the look is not that cool then gainward has :D
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Ruben0s 30 Dec 2011, 23:08
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011-gaming-graphics-charts/2D-Noise,2679.html

There is no difference in sound between the cards :)
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newbcake 31 Dec 2011, 00:06
Ik denk dat die gast nog wat research mag doen want twin frozr is alles behalve slecht.
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rsp 31 Dec 2011, 06:26
Since when has Twin Frozr been noisy? I guess you haven't heard a GTX 480 or an older ATi card with stock a cooler.
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D4ve 31 Dec 2011, 08:44
i know the Sound from a old ati and nvidia card. i read a lot of articles about the gtx from msi and the Sound of them were louder during gaming then the gainwards Phantoms
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rsp 31 Dec 2011, 11:59
Yet they are quiet enough.
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zenix 31 Dec 2011, 13:30
that OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W
is a bad choice, not really good on the 12V lines
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Yossarian 30 Dec 2011, 22:02
Xbox 360

all good games are made for it
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MerlinatoR 31 Dec 2011, 01:01
completed it already
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Demz0r 30 Dec 2011, 22:13
Good setup, only know personally of the processor and it's just great:)
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virtu 30 Dec 2011, 22:38
you better contact "zenix", he actually helped me a lot back in the days. when it comes to setups n stuff like that I bet he's the one that can help you the most! cheers.
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b4lu 30 Dec 2011, 22:49
i dont know shit about this sry
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g0dZz 30 Dec 2011, 23:02
my new pc:

PSU:LC-POWER 600W v2.2
GPU:Shappire HD6970 2gb GDDR5 PCIE
Motherboard:GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD4
ram:2x Geil 8GB Enhance Corsa Dual Channel 1600MHz
cpu: Intel i7 2600k 3.4GB SANDY BRIGDE
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D4ve 31 Dec 2011, 13:46
are u using the power of hyperthreading? cause if not then a i7 cpu is senseless.
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zenix 31 Dec 2011, 13:56
I hope you know that your PSU is not really good, and i wish for you that it is not going to blow up in the future and taking your nice hardware with him.
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Cstm 30 Dec 2011, 23:22
I wouldn't go for the 560ti version because I've read alot of heating problems
ask /g/ about it otherwise
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dAv1d 30 Dec 2011, 23:25
Got the same cpu allmost the same gfx card.. Looks pretty nice. Works amazing for me :)
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newbcake 31 Dec 2011, 00:03
GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 // z68 board sli/crossfire support 2xusb 3.0
Intel Core i5 2500(k) / 3.3 GHz socket 1155 // only take k version if you wanna overclock.
Scythe Processor Koeler Mugen 2 Rev. B // very good cpu cooler for not much.
Corsair Vengeance geheugen - 8 GB : 2 x 4 GB 1600 MHz ( PC3-12800 ) // 8gb more then enough for games now as 4gb is still enough.
Gainward GeForce GTX 570 1280MB Phantom // for abit more money u have the GTX 570 and better fps ofcourse. You could also take Twin frozr edition.
Seasonic X-750 // 750 watt power is enough.
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D4ve 31 Dec 2011, 13:35
750w is not needed, my system which i have right now is like the same like u wrote, i just have only other memory and a bigger gpu and i have a 680w and running everything without problems.
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newbcake 31 Dec 2011, 14:08
Well i said it so he could maybe do sli 1 year later or something.
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D4ve 31 Dec 2011, 14:09
but then he have to buy 2new gpus cause then that one will be too old to have a good sli system :/
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newbcake 31 Dec 2011, 14:36
1 year is not much. gpu can survive fine. well i stop reply now this goes nowhere anyway.
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embarrassed 31 Dec 2011, 00:25
You wont notice the difference between 16GB and 8GB RAM.

e: in fact if you have the money for those parts I would suggest upgrading to i7.
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Intruder 31 Dec 2011, 01:07
Get Xeon if you want HT (locked multipler tho).
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infect 31 Dec 2011, 01:33
And you can always buy more RAM so easily.
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rsp 31 Dec 2011, 06:31
A 550 watt PSU is enough for that setup alone. If an SLI or Crossfire setup is an possibility in somewhat near future a 650 is enough with graphics cards of such range. I personally don't have much experience with overclocking so I skip sharing any advise on that topic.
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D4ve 31 Dec 2011, 13:34
650w min nothing lower and if he takes one with cable management then he won't have any problems.
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zenix 31 Dec 2011, 13:28
motherboard, do you need that motherboard? I think you can get cheaper.
And PSU around 500W from Seasonic Corsair XFX all basicly from Seasonic just rebranded is more than enough even with a high overclock. And that is not only based on facts, also on personal experience with the same setup on 520W seasonic.
And 16GB is pretty much overkill, further the specifications of the memory are good enough you don´t have much use for low timings with Intel, you could also look at 1866MHz ram possibly but than again you wont notice it.
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D4ve 31 Dec 2011, 13:32
500w is too low for that system he should take one with 650w
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zenix 31 Dec 2011, 13:35
And why is that

a setup that i got here for 5 months http://tweakers.net/gallery/108168?wish_id=169280#tab:wenslijst
Running on 4,5GHz with GTX560Ti overclocked doesn't come near 520W
That includes 5 fans + SSD + HDD + DVD Drive + Water pump for custom watercooling setup 18W

There is no reason to get a psu with higher wattage if you don't need it because it will only cost you money not only for the PSU but also on efficiency in the long run.
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D4ve 31 Dec 2011, 13:45
my system needs 480-520w(if i'm playing bf3). if ur psu has more w then it's better cause of the cooling, cause ur psu won't overheating that fast.
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zenix 31 Dec 2011, 13:53
First of all a quality PSU will run perfectly on 100% and doesn't overheat
Second of course the PSU will get more hot when you run it on 100%, but just like with a CPU that isn't a problem with quality.
Third How did you measure that?
Fourth in this setup it won't come near 520W. So what are we talking about really?
It is just a fact that 650W will be overkill 500~550 is more than enough.
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D4ve 31 Dec 2011, 13:58
why it's will overkill i just have a 680w psu in my system.

3x120mm fans, 2hdd, 1dvd player, 1dvd burner, gpu and everything of the board.
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zenix 31 Dec 2011, 14:01
You don't get it. But that doesn't matter!
Have a nice evening.
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