They should make EC with 32 teams now , screw OC !
This should be implemented in all sports ! No more qualifiers for EURO or WC ! Let all play, makes it more fun!
One of the best trolls we have in this community is Clanbase(sorry guys). :)
I'm currently trying to do that. I've increased the admin squad, provided a lot of coverage for WL(and it's not over yet), and we have some more plans for this community comming up in the next 2 months. :>
If we keep it like this, ET will be in the EMS poll in the Spring or in the Fall, for sure. Then it's up to ET players to vote ET back on EMS.
I'm not really flaming, but the competition is gone now. Everyone is in the Groupstage, hoooooraaaaaay !
The Qualifiers had their purpose, but they were wrong as they were published the first time. They should just have changed the Qualifiers by ex-changing some really bad teams with the good ones that were in the Qualifiers.
Let's say that I'm ok with losing the Qualifiers. Next thing is that they have 30 teams and they want to divide them into 4 groups. This means 2 groups x 8 teams and 2 x 7. This also means that each team will have to play 7 matches at least, 8 for some.
So the groupstage will take at least 7 weeks(almost 2 months), which is way too much and many problems could appear!
After the groupstage, add playoffs with double-elimination = another month and a half. This means almost 3-4 months for this NC. In 3-4 months , a lot of things can happen! Some of the issues could be teams dropping, players quitting , no more tzac etc etc.
If there were 32 teams, 8 groups x 4 teams, it would have been awesome! But without those 2 teams, the competition is basicly done as it is right now.
As I said, I'm not really trying to flame them but to make them realize the mistakes they are doing, because clearly they haven't thought at it as I did in just 10 minutes.
"their competition, their deal" true, but don't flame them then :P
If you want to help them, talk to them privately, if you don't want to help them, keep it quiet (nothing personal against you btw :) )
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I see that you know the basic match.
If you make 5 groups x 4 teams and 2 groups x 5 teams, then you have 7 groups. How many do you qualify from those 5x4 and how many from those 2x5?
You need to decide if you want playoff of 16 or of 8.
In each case, 6x5 is better imo since all groups will have the same number of teams and you can start thinking for a cool playoffs qualifier system. :>
i will try to use this to build the group, if u want ill send u the board - when im back home - i already done to have a look in it and let me know ur opinion
the prob with 6x5 is that i can do only 12 teams on playoffs and i would like to have 16 - with my solution i can do 3 from groups of 5 and 2 from group of 4 to have 16 teams in playofs
btw thx for ur council, dont believe i dont care of it, really
Due to a larger admin squad, I now have the possibility to create more coverage, more competitions, more support for players and add a lot more features to our european section.
During their 3 months trial, admins are teached about all the things that are related with ESL. If they do not pass over a minimum requirement, they will not be accepted or they will have to learn more before being a full ESL admin.
Players that are usually trolls or are treated by the community(not by you) like retards, are not accepted in our admin squad. ;)
still remember that move, when doneX decided to removed us before semi finals premier, just because we played day after schedule (even though both us and one4one agreed). his comment? 'och polaks? rules are rules then, what a pity :)'
its okay, professional admins @ free game is always a big deal, always respected guys who provide for their families etc.
i wont pm gold0rak. if he wants team turkey in this nationscup then he should feel free to pm me. I will only accept if he changes the rules for turkey, since we dont have enough players who are living in turkey. If he is fine with using turkish players living in BE, NL, DE, FR and ofc TR then im fine with building up a team, if not then bb.
the sign up is open to any who want to sign up, im not here to knock at ur doors to know if u want to sign up or not come on plz ^^ and i will not change the actual rules jus for u, dont tell me that u cant find 6 players
Okay then good luck with your nationscup and your 31 teams.
Everyone should finally know after 2-3 years of Nationcupproblems for turkey, that there are not enough players who are living in turkey. On crossfire there are only a few players turkish and most of them have a cheatingbackground. Therefore, it isnt possible for us to follow your rules and sign up. This rule doesnt let us compete and it makes no sense at all in this case. You are changing the brackets and groups, because you want the teams to have more fun, right? You dont want some of them to get kicked out so early, right? It is all about fairness, right? So if you want teams and nations and spectators and ffs everyone to have fun in this competition then make some exceptions for the teams who cant compete in this nationscup.
There are max 2 players i trust on crossfire, who are actually living in turkey and who could play maybe. I have to ask them first and the rest of the lineup would live somewhere in europe. Cant do more. Its your turn
listen -
first of all its 30 teams and not 31, imo u read to many pages of useless comment on CF
secondly its not my problem if ur player dont live in turkey and imo 20% of the team who sign up for this nc have the same problems, BUT they pm me things that u didnt do to explain the case and to send me a copy of player's passport, did u do that ? no u didnt u never try to contact me so dont try to say that its my fault if turkey is not on the NC.
As i said i will not going to knock at ur doors to know if u want to play
Application for cpt was open during 3 weeks - player's vote was open during 2 weeks and during all this time......they pm me and u dont so plz, blame yourself not me.
This should be implemented in all sports ! No more qualifiers for EURO or WC ! Let all play, makes it more fun!
One of the best trolls we have in this community is Clanbase(sorry guys). :)
If we keep it like this, ET will be in the EMS poll in the Spring or in the Fall, for sure. Then it's up to ET players to vote ET back on EMS.
The Qualifiers had their purpose, but they were wrong as they were published the first time. They should just have changed the Qualifiers by ex-changing some really bad teams with the good ones that were in the Qualifiers.
Let's say that I'm ok with losing the Qualifiers. Next thing is that they have 30 teams and they want to divide them into 4 groups. This means 2 groups x 8 teams and 2 x 7. This also means that each team will have to play 7 matches at least, 8 for some.
So the groupstage will take at least 7 weeks(almost 2 months), which is way too much and many problems could appear!
After the groupstage, add playoffs with double-elimination = another month and a half. This means almost 3-4 months for this NC. In 3-4 months , a lot of things can happen! Some of the issues could be teams dropping, players quitting , no more tzac etc etc.
If there were 32 teams, 8 groups x 4 teams, it would have been awesome! But without those 2 teams, the competition is basicly done as it is right now.
As I said, I'm not really trying to flame them but to make them realize the mistakes they are doing, because clearly they haven't thought at it as I did in just 10 minutes.
Other than that, cheers! :)
They should just thank me for posting this.
ESL NC will be better.
If you want to help them, talk to them privately, if you don't want to help them, keep it quiet (nothing personal against you btw :) )
If you need admin/ref/lackey let me know!
We're always looking for people that can spectate some matches and make a match review. Join #esl.et and I will surely contact you when your help is needed, if you are avi...
5 x 4 teams
2 x 5 teams is the final standing
If you make 5 groups x 4 teams and 2 groups x 5 teams, then you have 7 groups. How many do you qualify from those 5x4 and how many from those 2x5?
You need to decide if you want playoff of 16 or of 8.
In each case, 6x5 is better imo since all groups will have the same number of teams and you can start thinking for a cool playoffs qualifier system. :>
the prob with 6x5 is that i can do only 12 teams on playoffs and i would like to have 16 - with my solution i can do 3 from groups of 5 and 2 from group of 4 to have 16 teams in playofs
btw thx for ur council, dont believe i dont care of it, really
quality > quantity
just sayin
During their 3 months trial, admins are teached about all the things that are related with ESL. If they do not pass over a minimum requirement, they will not be accepted or they will have to learn more before being a full ESL admin.
Players that are usually trolls or are treated by the community(not by you) like retards, are not accepted in our admin squad. ;)
Hope this clears it out for you.
I'm just thinking like an admin, and this is a waste for the competition... :<
still remember that move, when
its okay, professional admins @ free game is always a big deal, always respected guys who provide for their families etc.
there is one more week to cup start so maybe
Anyway, next NC I will captain for Ireland and I will make sol play!
Maybe next NC if I'm still in Ireland.
Everyone should finally know after 2-3 years of Nationcupproblems for turkey, that there are not enough players who are living in turkey. On crossfire there are only a few players turkish and most of them have a cheatingbackground. Therefore, it isnt possible for us to follow your rules and sign up. This rule doesnt let us compete and it makes no sense at all in this case. You are changing the brackets and groups, because you want the teams to have more fun, right? You dont want some of them to get kicked out so early, right? It is all about fairness, right? So if you want teams and nations and spectators and ffs everyone to have fun in this competition then make some exceptions for the teams who cant compete in this nationscup.
There are max 2 players i trust on crossfire, who are actually living in turkey and who could play maybe. I have to ask them first and the rest of the lineup would live somewhere in europe. Cant do more. Its your turn
first of all its 30 teams and not 31, imo u read to many pages of useless comment on CF
secondly its not my problem if ur player dont live in turkey and imo 20% of the team who sign up for this nc have the same problems, BUT they pm me things that u didnt do to explain the case and to send me a copy of player's passport, did u do that ? no u didnt u never try to contact me so dont try to say that its my fault if turkey is not on the NC.
As i said i will not going to knock at ur doors to know if u want to play
Application for cpt was open during 3 weeks - player's vote was open during 2 weeks and during all this time......they pm me and u dont so plz, blame yourself not me.
Cheers