policy with cheaters

by crabje • 8 Feb 2012, 09:49 • Journals
well, there are loads of cheaters busted by tzac. I'm wondering what will happen to them and there clans.

for example this guy: filter (just a random polak)

caught cheater
http://tz-ac.com/profile.php?id=852

he played a few matches in ESL.
http://www.gamestv.org/event/30302-furia-v2-vs-team-xlibres/

Furia kicked them out of the clan, but will they lose the played matches because of playing with a cheater while they diddent know he was cheating?



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Vanhaomena 8 Feb 2012, 09:53
Matches are only forfeited if someone was busted for cheating in that match.
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crabje 8 Feb 2012, 09:54
how would you know?
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FiLuS 8 Feb 2012, 09:54
The problem is that somehow you have to prove that he (or any of the others involved) cheated in official match. I dont know if TZAC provides all necessary info to determine when exactly (or how often) was hax used, it could be random irc match, pub or even just watching ettv. I think CB has different measures when it comes to banning people for hax (cheating on pub = 3 months, cheating in offi = 1 year or smth, or at least it was like that), dunno about ESL.
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SsAP 8 Feb 2012, 10:14
thats like what the "match"-feature of tzac is for i assume? to match the time of cheating to an official match played at a certain time?!

but i guess ESL only uses wire not tzac?(dunno) so no clue on that
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FiLuS 8 Feb 2012, 10:19
you only need exact time or time range of him/her cheating, then you can see in screenshots where he was playing at given time (or at least can determine whether it was offi or not). I dont think that match id feature was forced by any league tho, but I might be wrong (I am not active, so dunno, but I am sure ESL does not use it).
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SsAP 8 Feb 2012, 10:37
i only know that CB use it (quite sure about it) though i'm also far from active, didn't play for far more than a year, going for two... maybe it's two already, dunno
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Rippy 8 Feb 2012, 09:58
If he played a match in ESL -> 2 years ban
EDIT: Team may be excluded from ESL
But, i didn't checked links, etc, etc.yet, but we will take care of all the ppl on the list :)
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crabje 8 Feb 2012, 10:02
yes but how do you know :). chaply is not going to check every cheater if he used cheats in his official match ;)
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Rippy 8 Feb 2012, 10:04
no. but we will
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crabje 8 Feb 2012, 10:06
can you see the time and date from the busted guys? thought only chaply could see that. anyway gl with checking every cheater!
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FoaMeA 8 Feb 2012, 14:23
Yes, we can.
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FoaMeA 8 Feb 2012, 22:40
He didn't cheat in any ESL match.
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crabje 8 Feb 2012, 22:58
ok :) thanks for checking !
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h8m3 8 Feb 2012, 10:00
don't take randoms in your clan, easy as that
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aiRen 8 Feb 2012, 10:33
so cf account 2y+?!
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nORAs 8 Feb 2012, 10:56
and tzac id lower then 5k
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moPPel 8 Feb 2012, 11:14
well, i think it is ok if tzacid is older than 300 days, but all the 100-day-accounts nowadays make me lol a bit if they can rape the ass out of you and you never saw them before
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nORAs 8 Feb 2012, 11:25
matches against ppl with 50k tzac ids just priceless
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Deactivated6800 8 Feb 2012, 11:58
i got tzac id 10k+, because of this mess linked with end of beta/change of name[dunno nou]... i had to activate my account once more, and i simply forgot what mail i used to register... :S
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nORAs 8 Feb 2012, 12:07
im not the one u should cry to.. i just simply dont care.. every1 have to pay for their mistakes
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Deactivated6800 8 Feb 2012, 12:09
im just stating that judging ppl because of tzac id is plain stupid
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DeactSeareal 8 Feb 2012, 12:33
my tzac account is almost 40k lo
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DrLagAlot 8 Feb 2012, 13:19
which of yours? the sqzz? the mAus? the first one?
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vj7o 8 Feb 2012, 11:00
i see now that like 50% of matches i played (3on3 mostly) are vs someone inside that list :D
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DeactSeareal 8 Feb 2012, 12:34
cheaters like u, u should be banned for playing against cheaters.

:_D
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vj7o 8 Feb 2012, 13:01
tooooooo bad !!! :DDDD
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DeactSeareal 8 Feb 2012, 13:49
160 or 170 bans hahha ROLFCOPTER
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c4p 8 Feb 2012, 12:51
Clan shouldnt be punished for stupidity of a random member. When you are home you just cant be responsible for behaviour of a teammate across Europe, or control if she/he cheats in random mixes or on pubs.
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DeactSeareal 8 Feb 2012, 13:49
ye indddddddddd make up more retarded rules wat
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