Civilization X

So chaps - which is the best Civilization game? Looking to do me some leeching.

Is Civ 5 any good? It looks VERY different to the Civ 2 I knew & loved as a child. Looks more like a brother of Age of Empires 3.
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civ 8 was good didnt like the chinese tho
civ 4 bts and fuck civ 5

i rest my case
bts? Weirdo
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civ1: revolutionairy for its time, though not really worth playing today
civ2: still playable, great sequal which stayed true to the series. perfect for a tablet or eee pc
civ3: most fans will agree this wasnt the best version, I never played it that much
civ4: best version of civ, especially with Beyond The Sword installed. Latest patch even removed cd check or any DRM. If you want to get into civ4 and play it like a 'pro' read trough some of sulla gameplays which just take the game to the next level.
civ5: installed it, played it for 3 hours or so and never touched it again. Basicly they joined the trend of dumbing down their game in favour of the masses.

http://www.garath.net/Sullla/civ4.html

This guy was part of beta testing civ4 and his oppinion and multiplayer playstyle is legendary and well respected.
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not even an asian could win in the hardest level of civ 4 :s

it is just physically impossible...

edit:talking about single player with beyond the sword patch installed
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Quotenot even an asian could win in the hardest level of civ 4


are you kidding me? its doable, you just need to learn to use the whip / chop early on to grab a big enough territory. Next slingshot civil service with oracle and lightbulb a scientist. Read the sulla page and you'll see you just need to step up your gameplay and make better decissions.

edit: ofc sp with bts installed. you petty chieftain
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ah Civ 4 looks nice, a lot more like Civ 2. Civ 5 looks like the shitty FPS version of Red Alert they made.

So the latest patch makes it free anyway?
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I think the game is like 5 € on steam with everything included. But you can just torrent civ4 civ4 warlords and civ4 bts, install all of them and patch bts. no cdckeys or anything. If you are familiar with civ2, civ4 shouldnt be that hard to get into, the biggest change being culture. civ4 bts might be a bit overwhelming since it added so much more. just one hint: fuck ghandi. Aggressiveness is set from 1-10 with ghandi having a 14 value or somehting. That fucker will attack you. You can count on it.

from BTS you can move on to popular mods like 'Fall from heaven' or Legends of Revolutions. FfH is tolkien based wheras LoR is aimed at hardcore civ4 players expanding, balancing and improving the interface.
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command and conquer renegade, based on tiberian sun. You know nothing.


tho it sucked
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Read the entire guide :X looks fun just need to properly learn the tech trees

My problem is investing that much time (26 fucking hours) & not getting massively frustrated if I do something stupid. I'm that used to the instant gratification of FPS & the respawnability of ET / Q3 it's hard to transition.

Civ 2 for a tablet - WHERE??! Android?
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the good stuff is in the multiplayer reports. theres some crazy stuff going on in there :)

i got civ2 on my eee pc when i travel, you can prolly get it working on a tablet if you are determined enough :p
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i realy liked civ 5, it is abit different from civ 2 ofc, but its mostly the same thing.
havent played civ 5 yet, but i still get fun while playing civ 4 from time to time...and civ 1 of course!! :D
civ5 - boring :<
civ4 - great!
Civ. II.
Try Crusader Kings II its extremely hard if you like a challenege
made by paradox interactive. they make very good games, but they are all pretty hardcore to get into. im an avid EU3 player and they can take complexity to the next level. I would never advise any of the pardox games over civ4, though they are excellent for people who are looking for a challenge after civ4 :)

i installed victoria 2 the other day, havent gotten around to trying it yet =p looks like eu3 after the renaissance :p
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I've been looking into that, it good? Read so many good reviews but tbh every1 says its well hard to learn. Is it really just super hard to learn or really hard to get into?

If it's doable to get into with a steep learning curve that's ok, if you just have to look up 1028310283 things before you even know what you're doing its prolly not for me tho :<
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its the latter, downloaded it, started playing and got rolled in 5 minutes because I had no clue what I was doing. It looked like you will have to read in about the game/watch some tutorial vids on youtube or so before playing since there are a shitload of options on the first look of things
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thats paradox interactive for you. they make hardcore games :) EU3 has a great wiki which I spent a lot of time to get a better understanding of the game. dunno about their other games

just installed victoria 2, started the game as holland and i have no clue though it looks a lot like eu3. guess i need to read through some of this to get a clue http://www.paradoxian.org/vicky2wiki/Country_Guides
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tbh 5 hours, solid game play and you'll get it, thats what it took me anyway its just hard to get a grip off but very good game you'd lose a few days playing it.
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civ 4 with Beyond the Sword is fcking epic :)
Civ5 online is (still) buggy as fuck. So if you wanna play online I don't recommend getting it.
Trifling perfo, your arrogance (unfounded) will be your undoing.

You face Gandhi, Eradar lord of the Indian Legion.
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Get your hands off my Almaty.
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2 & 3 rock, 4 wasn't that good, 5 seemed good, haven't played it that much and it had few annoyances / "improvements" that I didn't like.
how can you say 3 > 4 ... and saying 5 is a good game.

http://www.garath.net/Sullla/Civ5/americanempire.html

civ5 is a console game, made to appeal to the lowest common denomitator. its a disgrace to te civ5 series. build a city, doesnt really matter shit where you put them. war? ai is fucking retarded even after so many updates, guess one unit per tile is even worse then the civ4 stack of doom. But ofcourse, i can imagine casual gamers enjoy a game where you cant possibly fail or loose ...
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Probably because I haven't played 4 that much. but I had some valid reasons too... Just can't remember.

About 5, who the hell plays / can play those on consoles? You mentioned the stack-pile-fix, I loved that, city-defence too, also those city-nations (forgot again) was a nice idea.

Hmm. I guess I shall install it again since I remembered it again, I just need some more free-time with it. Played it two times with 2/3 level, was superir before industrial, got bored. :)
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stack of death is the only good strategy in civ4 where you build a huge stack of units before you go to war, put them all together and take what you want to take. its not beautifull, but very effective

maritime city states are so op that i cant put it into word, even after the patch nerfed them

civ4 is just way ahead of civ5. they are trying to balance and fix civ5 but there are some core gameplay mistakes in the game, the one tile a unit for example and the endless city spamfest because it really doesnt matter where you put them.
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Do you exclusively play single player civ?
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yes, mp civ4 i played a couple of times but that was back in vanilla civ4
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Civ 2 ftw, i'm just gutted I can't play it anymore due to silly 64 bit nonsense!
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