Banker confronted
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1 Mar 2012, 16:37
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such is the definition for open and transparent discussion worldwide in politics and other things that actually matter. I wonder how long we are going to sit on our asses and watch this show go on.. :PPP
(not that i 100% know what this is/was about now anyway - or that i'd believe it, it owuld just be an answer anyway^^)
now the main issue is, if we are not inferior minded comparing to those inbreds how can we implement equality and crush a twisted/squishing/opressive system
we dont want them to control into their own benefit, because there is a massive global thing called human+natural course of life
They control the system, no doubt about that either.
When something has been learned, it's hard to unlearn.
To undo the control they have is something that is next to impossible but there are ways.
Something as little as 10% of people need to be aware in order to make the change available for all of humanity. I'm no mathematician so I can only predict on hunch but about 10-30% of the resources 'they' are using is required to spread enough information that the 10% of humanity wakes up to reality of certain matters and thus works as a catalyst bringing this change for the rest of mankind.
This works because truth is a powerful force and it cannot be covered with lies once it has surfaced. When people become aware, they can't be put back to sleep with the same tricks anymore.
Obviously they too are aware of this and they have invested a lot of resources into wide variety of tricks to keep the masses unquestioning and passive so they wouldn't wake up in the first place.
Now assuming this would work and people would become more aware of the system's true nature, this awakening process can be steered like anything else in this society.
It can be mislead, Zeitgeist etc are pointing out the mistakes in the monetary system, but the real problem is not the money, but the men behind the money. We can butcher bunch of bankers and make changes to our economy, but if we do not make changes on a much deeper level, nothing will fundamentally change. As long as people are happy, they don't want change. They are used to change bringing bad things and who can blame them with these people in charge?
There are other ways also, but fundamentally they all have something to do with awareness. Being aware of possibilities will make you reach out for them. Ignorance is a bliss. You can be aware of the conspiracies and the system, natural way of living or good ethical and moral code - whatever it is, you live through it and thus influence your surroundings. It's really simple actually, be the change you want to see in the world.
this is why you require 10-30% (guessful prediction) of the resources they have in use. even if they use their resources 100%, your 30% will counter 15% of their influnece and like stated, it requires 10% of population (this was on some scientific research) to take up an idea or thought and fit it into the consensus also known as common sense.
this is slightly related to the topic (and mostly to the consensus): http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Did_the_monkey_banana_and_water_spray_experiment_ever_take_place
common sense is very rare to find these days amongst 'the masses'
well what i meant by allowing "it" is to take the fear off people, which would require people to not be faced with it constantly. "them" just standing by, watching you destroy their work.
though with greater fear they can only try to top that again and again. sure that's not a nice and bright thought, but eventually one has to fail. and when that happens you could still start giving the people hope again.
other than that maybe hate would be something you could go for, though that wouldn't make the people "listen" to you, it would make them want to fight, so be aggressive, which brings no peaceful solution imo. though them "fearing" 'you' makes them want what you tell them they want.
and it doesnt matter what "it" is. fear is surely the strongest force used to control but there are other methods of control and there are plenty. You are not allowed to do plenty of things and people would call that a conspiracy if I were to list some of those things.
But I already answered to this with my previous writing, maybe you should read it with more thought?
ps. read my reply to tace
a) good for oneself and
b) what's good for 'everyone'(the majority)
and i mean actually good, not what feels good at the moment.
sure "brainwashing" would be also one method, but imo the one with greater resources would be more successful at it (on a legal scale). to be fair, i consider fear mongering part of brainwashing too. what else are you refering to?
well, war is inevadable with syria+iran (imo). whats to be decided is only what part everyone ecept israel and the us are going to play in it.
the us can't stop going to war in yet another country simply to justify their military expanses
though that's what the masses would want, so it would be common sense after your juding, or did i misunderstood you there? if so we actually don't disagree^^
http://www.orientalia.org/wisdom/Philosophy/Reality_enforcement.shtml
What I meant was that the consensus reality, the most believed beliefs, true or false ARE the common sense. it is common sense that man cannot fly.
of course "common sense" means standard level of sensibility as in you should know you drown if you cant swim, but in reality it's far more when in fact beliefs that are approved by masses turn out to be false. This becomes the matrix, a reality inside reality where false things can be true because people believe in them.
well, if you argue from a perspective where the eurozone under no circumstances may fall, for any country, i might even understand them, that everyone has to do it's bit, because otherwise we'd all be ruined.
BUT there's two things
1. the finance system (well you can't do much about that, so lets agree that thats a fixed system... well it could have alternatives, maybe some other regulations and so on but...thats not exactly easily doable imo)
2. is from every countrys perspective the country itself really ruined, just because the eurozone collapses/because the country is no longer part of it?
sure, alot of countries profit from it, germany being one of the most profiteering ones (though i also wonder if it's still really worth the money they pump into it. they should start balancing rather it being worth the effort and resources, actually all countries should) well already for the greece affair... well, the country is pretty much f*, yet they keep it alive for a few more years, they're past the point of return, it can not be saved, noone (except maybe the chinese, but they likely got no interest in greece) have the money to do so, so why even bother to push the unevadable. just so a few sorry a*s can save their money, of whom our governments think of being unable to exist any longer without them being around.
tbh i also wonder why germany even bothers borrowing money from america, if it would get far better conditions from china. (well the chinese probably should stop pumping money into america too, since there is no way they'll get their money back from them either, so why lend them, so they can give it to someone else, if they could just aswell skip america (the chinese AND germany) and try to get rid of them on the long run?!
However I'd appreciate if you dont use countries but rather 'entities' since "country thinking" is highly outdated. Powers that be are beyond countries and thus limiting the conversation to country level is pointless.
European Union is an entity.
Banking Industry is an entity.
Banking Elite is part of banking industry, but not the same.
Country can be part of another entity such as EU or UN.
Now if we break the video down, It's the banking elite that wants a country to participate in their project called EU and representative of this elite is being asked why should a country participate in this project if it won't benefit the country at all, but rather damage it and all the other countries as well. Obviously he's reluctant to give the answer because it's something that he doesnt want to spill out and would reveal the true nature of the banking industry.
the rest was just rumbling about that they should get a grip and dump greece for good and at least consider leaving the eu as a possibility or argue WHY it would be good (after having thought it through, and actually having calculated it) to stay in it
That's called blackmailing. These people are a mob.
with applying some marketing i only meant that he could have bullshat his way out of it. or as you were implying, apply some pressure that everyone was doomed, were the banks not be saved.
Though I'd really love to hear an answer to that question by any such person.
I'm not clever enough to think of a reasonable explanation other than we want your money.
surely you can say we need it to save our company so we can save the world but then again you need some credibility to your claim and remember that when you make a claim, its a promise.
a promise that will keep popping up until it has been fullfilled and people are going to demand answers and to see progress in other words action take place towards that direction.
but yes, if you take into account, that people might some day actually care about what you said, you'd have to somewhat stick to your word, true. but the avarge person these days doesn't remember a promise after a week has passed.
well i wondered why they'd even send someone to an interview whos not even able to give ANY answer, not even a shitty one to a question ;)
well...and then just defy him so to say
one person does a huge pile of crap and the rest of the population has to clean it?
then someone discovered the dumbfuck system the "smart" guy invented and said "fuck this, we will not start again"
he invented economy
and here we are, apparently traped where we cannot come out of