Mouse Advice

Hey everyone.

I ve been using a razer deathadder pretty much since years and this was the perfect mouse for me, since i simply got my feeling with it.
After long time use, it unfortunately became rather dirty and surface stripped off already and i couldnt click the mousewheelbutton anymore and when trying to open it to clean it i accidently messed up and it died.
Well like a year ago i thought i d go for a new razer mouse and found the Imperator to fit myself which has unfortunately not been coming true. Its a real good mouse and it works absolutly fine but i kept trying for almost a year now and i simply dont get my feeling with it.

Now i thought about going for a gamingmouse one last time and id like to get some recommendations from you guys.
Well a mouse for me should be lightweight, approx as big as my hand, the surface should be raw or at least not too slippy, it should have at least one Thumbbutton and it should be of around 30Euro price..
As a reference, like i said, i loved the style of deathadder. Yet the price of a new deathadder is just not worth it anymore for me.

Also i want to sell my Razer Imperator. New price was 60 Euros and it is completely out of scratches or dirt or anything. Ive been treating it very well. Its a really good mouse, just not fitting for me. I would also give you a Razer Mousebag. Very useful when going for LANs and such.
Would be giving it away for 25 Euros, shipping is okay within Europe.


Hope some of you got some good advice for me.
Thanks in advance
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steelseries sensei is an awesome mouse, zowie or ime 3.0 or 1.1
depend on the preference but for ET, i wouldnt recommand sensei (i had myself a xai few years ago and the sensor isnt good at all + much problems with it)
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works fine with me
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maybe they fixed the driver or something, i dunno.

still a mouse doesn't make the player (eventho it can help a little bit)

i still don't think that Steelseries are doing great "gaming" product... there is a few exeptions even tho.
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not using any drivers
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if i get correctly how some mice are working, there is internal drivers or at least firmware, i talked about that.

in case you didn't know, for example the zowie EC have no drivers but still the manufacturer can update something at distance (dont ask me how)
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that is not possible without any drivers, steelseries is a plug n pown device, u dont need any drivers to use it
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read again (maybe my english skills arent perfect) you'll maybe understand wat i said with the example!
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a mouse cannot update itself, i did understand it but its impossible without software or without ur permission
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i read on esreality, that it is possible atleast with zowie mice
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i like computers cuz they dont do what they arent supose to do... hardware cannot update itself without a command.... software yes but with a scheduled update check but hardwer ?!
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read it by yourself, its prolly' on zowie website :)
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I'd say

- Razer Abyssus
- Intellimouse Explorer 1.1 or 3.0
- WMO 1.1
- Logitech G400 ( don't have any clue about the weight tho )
I am loving the steelseries xai, I guess the 'next generation' xai would be the sensei, but as it offers the same sensor + grip I would say pick the one with the best deal! Also should note that on hicpi ( >1800 ) settings the Avago ADNS-9500 sensor in the sensei/xai has 4% acceleration.
sensei has a bit better grip due to the metallic shit on top :P id go for sensei cuz of the kickass name :D
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i sincerely don't know any good mice apart from wmo 1.1a and deathadder, from what i've read and heard

also 500hz overclocking sucks in 1.1a, otherwise bueno, a bad mousewheel though

sensors suck in about all steelseries mice, apart from kana which might be good dunno, g400 has bad quality, abyssus jitters, etcetc. maybe either of these two if you're not in a hurry: http://www.esreality.com/post/2173191/new-gaming-mouse-development/
can you actually tell me what overclocking the mouserate is about?
Does it give you any real advantage?
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mouse response faster, but iv played on 125hz accidentaly for a month, switched it back to 1000hz didnt rly feel any difference :D
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yeah wmo 1.1a is 125hz only, overclocking it to 500hz means that the refresh rate goes 8ms -> 2ms which is a requirement for most gamers E: it feels smoother

and you need to overclock the usb port (of the mouse) via some program and it's safe and stuff i guess but took me 6 hours :l
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Doubt anyone actually ever felt the difference, maybe if you have a 120hz screen you do.
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sensei sensor is fine for me, with low sens even on a dirty mat(laser on a dirty mat), my mouse is accurate (goes where i want it to go)
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it works only with a few mousepads
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shouldnt work good on a cloathpad at all :P but it still moves the same on an dirty mousepad... epic :P
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Either Xai or Sensei. If Sensei aint much more expensive go for it, if it is, go for Xai
explorer 3.0
might go for it :)
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where can i buy one??

need to ship in belgium
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google knows
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i already googled, cannot found any in europe.

if you know, feel free to pm me!
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ime 3.0 the easiest mouse to get
even ur kebab shop sells them.
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tell wich kebab shop !
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ur kebab shop
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didnt found, they only sell kebab and cereal
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G400 - no doubt
what ya gonna do tonight with no decent mouse?
just plugged my DA in again... not working properly anymore but yet better than that imperator for me until i get a new one
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what does not properly mean? is it freezing or just not accepting every click u make?
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I recently bought a Logitech G400 with steelseries QCK+ as mousepad and I love it.
Logitech G400 - Cheap, 3 year warranty (yep 3 years). Cord is shit like in other Logitech mouses but you got warranty so np.
Deathadder - Good choice since your latest mouse was DA. Build quality sucks tho.
Steelseries - Expensive. Xai/Sensei are the largest mouses, Kana is in the middle and Kinzu is the smallest one. Kana and Kinzu are pretty cheap but at lest Kinzu is pretty bad. Kanas sensor isn't the best tho.
Zowie - Pretty expensive. Haven't really heard much negative things, maybe because they are not one of the common mouses.
WMO - I have no idea.

I got G400, apart from cord it is great mouse for its price (~35euros.)
for this pricerange : razer abyssus, get a recent one wich has fixed bug (dunno about quality but the sensor is pretty good)

steelseries kana medium sized (decent sensor with [a lot] prediction, shit mousefeet, cheap buttons, with side buttons)
steelseries kinzu v2 little size (decent sensor with [a lot] prediction,cheap buttons, no side buttons)
steelseries kinzu v2 pro little size (good buttons, no side buttons)

zowie EC1/2 White/Black pretty good exept that this mouse have got few bug (like it click without clicking, mousewheel,...) they do have a great warranty support tho!
zowie EC Evo, pretty good mouse, still i don't really like the sensor

Roccat kova is pretty good if you like the shape

i heard corsair mice are pretty good (didnt try those myself)

cyborg mice sucks
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