Bad trollers

So what's on my mind today I here you cry fellow crossfire comrades. ":D"

Well, recently it has come to my attention that there are a lot of bad trollers around. Now I cannot be too hypocritical as when I began this art of trolling, I too was very rusty around the edges but as I feel that I have paved the way for every troller in eSports, I feel that I have the right to conduct a critical appraisal if you will.

In my opinion, trolling is an art. If u gonna troll, do it properly. You have to deceive everybody into believing that you give a shit i.e. my journal about EC, etc. There are so many people blatantly trolling and they never get a reaction, what's the point?

Second, I don't think trolling is for everybody. I see myself as a laid back individual who hasn't been bothered by anything that has happened online in a good 3-4 years. But there are people attempting to troll out there who do not have the character for it, prime example could be maybe Poland fanatic. The guy is clearly, trying to put this nicely.. very passionate about the game and his online reputation means a lot for him. So trolling is not for these kind of people in my opinion, because all it takes is a few smart comments and they are mad already.

Another person who is really bad at trolling and hasn't improved at all is Finland Blindi. He maybe has the potential to be good unlike fanatic, but he's just bad at it and does not listen. His trolling is very blatantly obvious and that's not how it should be. I like to call it "baby trolling", inserting random smilies and holding down the D button. Same applies for Finland miNd, infact most fins are pretty bad at trolling. Maybe it is their bad engrish skills? Or maybe it's only the KFC (Kamz FinnishFan Club) who are bad. I think they try to immitate me in a way, but you need to be unique and have your own style.

There are many others out there such as Netherlands saKen. I've never seen somebody make so many "witty" sarcastic comments, with so little response. Nobody laughs at what he writes but he types things trying to be funny. Don't really get it if I am honest.

Please take my advice. When I see the art of trolling being disrespected like this, it's like a dagger in my heart </3

Yours sincerely,
Kamz

Number one source for entertainment on crossfire.nu and life of the community.

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>implying you're being subtle at all
zum1isinto/b/
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/b/ is for retarded 13 year olds
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What if this entire journal is a troll as well and you're actually quite bad at trolling???
How can you be bad at something that you invented?
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is this an example of good troling?????
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Doing hes best i guess.
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Thanks. I don't consider myself as the best but it's very nice people say this.
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This my friend is the truths. I was trolling when you were in nappies.
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So you were trolling in ur daddys balls already?
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Wanking on my pictures. Replying to every one of my comments. You got something to confess?!
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Ofc dude, im gonna fap on your pictures? Can't you come up with something better than this? Ofc im gonna replay evry single comment. Cause you are mad.
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Gonna stop replying now because I think you're on a different kind of level to everybody else here. Don't mind debating with some guys but you're on some kind of scary stalker level here and I recommend some counselling.
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why so mad? Nigga please, you are shit troller. So please stop doing it.
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kamz => trolled
gg
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You invented trolling? Thanks, you made my day.
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Cause ur english?
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nice troll :ss
Like we give a shit if you are best troller or not? We just wanna laugh
A good look in your mirror will I'm sure provide you with all the laughs you require.
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Didn't laugh what im gonna do now?:/ Oehh gonna look at your picture and laugh :)

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1 = old
2 = boss
3 = mixers fault
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Did you get my point?:D


If someone who looks like that says to you look in a mirror for good laugh then obv he has some problem?:D
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kk decided to look in mirror and take pic

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i know what ur thinking, what a gangster, how can somebody that trolls online look so cool
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Tell us how much it costs now

Jacket 2000£
phone 1000£


You made me laugh again :) Thank you clown.
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Pure leather jackets and iphone's are quite expensive but you're estonian without job who just monitors irc all day so I don't think you can afford this :(

Got more money in my wallet than your dad earns in a year. Mad y/n ?
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Are you sure about ur last shit?:D

100% Lether jacket 150£ Iphone4 400£ not much bro. not much at all.

Now tell us about ur 3000£ camera and so on :) Rich boy? And why you always bring up the money part?:D You always put ur best outwit on when you take pictures :D Mad boy? Who wares leather jackets inside?:o
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who wears clothes like that*
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omg Edward Norton looking on my pics?
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thats why u wear fucking hobo clothes in the pictures above
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respect adults keithh /!\
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whats wrong with ur face?
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lol can't believe ur saving pics of me everywhere xd
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Go to www.google.com search pictures called Kamz paki and you will get them?:D
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you do that yourself hobo
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respect adults keithh /!\
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DISTINCTION
deal with it?
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didnt anybody offer you money yet to shave that beard
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Member for: 1 day
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you're trying too hard

also writing too much, think goku-homo might be the only one who reads the lot
Buttbro koop might read it :)
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You said you would come to LAN. Heard you bottled it
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Possibly, If gav isn't going then he won't have deryn to hide behind ;XD:D:XD
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xxDxDxDxXD"::b;:dx"€ OLÉÉÉÉÉ
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;D;D;ZD;;;;XX;D;;D;D
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say that too my face at LAN and she how I kindly respond!
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Duff guy ? Please your more pathetic than Goku.
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if u gonna do something, do it properly.. otherwise u make yourself look stupid, like u have to me anyways ;\
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Oh the irony.
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incase u haven't noticed, i don't give a shit how i am perceived l0l

i do what i want, when i want and u can't do nothing about it, u mad?
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classic kamzish trolling, this one. proud?
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Haha sure if you want to believe that.

As for the first part, says enough about your personality.
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I know it's hard to accept. But I think it's time to deal with it? :(
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Deal with...the fact you're a terrible "troller"? Been there, done that.
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Fact that I get pms and replies everywhere with people laughing at how I make people such as yourself mad, tells me it all my friend. My trolling level is too powerful for the tiny brain cells inside of your head :(
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Ok you caught me, im mad. I have the job i love, great friends and family, enjoying a 30+ degree week with a beautiful girl. Im gonna be mad over some random brit that talks shit online but wont say a word at lan, who thinks he's incredibly funny. Right-o! Im really mad! Sorry!
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thx for sharing bro
The fact you writing this shit explains a lot about who cares and who doesn´t ..
QuotesaKen

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every morning i eat a sandvich
why do you mention my nick everywhere? i'm not homo so you can let it go
look at how M A D all those cf nerds are getting lol xdd
write a book and call it "the art of trolling" by KamZ
you will be known and rich !
I like to remain underground and out of the limelight
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In all the ways you are failing much harder then the individuals mentioned.
I describe you like the last time like this

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feed the whore make it fat.
"Trolling" is despicable. It's probably what's killing ET the most, and it's not funny, you won't win anything from it, it's just for the pure pleasure of destroying something that actually had potential (this community is what I had in mind).
Such an extraordinary game, such an amazing community, such a horrible "art".
Maybe so. But it's so common nowadays that everybody does it to a certain extent.
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Bloody hell Manj, you're really trying hard to win this contribution competition thing :P
I couldn't give a shit about some competition. Somebody told me that this is only in the month of October yesterday anyways, which tells you it all. I just like to rattle some cages.
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god youre a fucking nerd
I can't argue there. I did get a distinction in my masters. Brb shining pocal.
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difference between being intelligent and sitting on a computer all day attention whoring.
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oh dear Kamz..
BOOM g5 player. With Waki gone we need a new group of inderviduals with swagger like me. If there are any takers (we don't accept nerdy kids like unforgiven, seareal, weslann or keith) hit me up dawgs. BOOM
Waki left crossfire a week ago. I think I am going to have to start recruiting for a new company of players. I will holla at you if I need an assistant.
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omg little nicky
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Oooohwwwww
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image: iTkUI

I could do this for hours and hours lol.
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Nah, the first one you posted is way more.. absorbing! :p
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QuoteWell, recently it has come to my attention that there are a lot of bad trollers around.

Yes, you. Stopped reading there.
can you short this shit for me. Cant read this much
I wrote it within like a minute so it shouldn't be that hard to read :(
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this is so funny.

Kamz you paki you are the best.

Did I say you r the best?
and you r fast.

amazing
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sinds wanneer ben jij zo aardig? ik mis de oude frits :(
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its a troll mott4
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In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. The noun troll may refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted."

While the word troll and its associated verb trolling are associated with Internet discourse, media attention in recent years has made such labels subjective, with trolling describing intentionally provocative actions and harassment outside of an online context. For example, mass media has used troll to describe "a person who defaces Internet tribute sites with the aim of causing grief to families."

Early incidents of trolling were considered to be the same as flaming, but this has changed with modern usage by the news media to refer to the creation of any content that targets another person. The Internet dictionary NetLingo suggests there are four grades of trolling: playtime trolling, tactical trolling, strategic trolling, and domination trolling. The relationship between trolling and flaming was observed in open-access forums in California, on a series of modem-linked computers in the 1970s, like CommuniTree which when accessed by high school teenagers became a ground for trashing and abuse. Some psychologists have suggested that flaming would be caused by deindividuation or decreased self-evaluation: the anonymity of online postings would lead to disinhibition amongst individuals Others have suggested that although flaming and trolling is often unpleasant, it may be a form of normative behavior that expresses the social identity of a certain user group. According to Tom Postmes, a professor of social and organisational psychology at the universities of Exeter and Groningen, Netherlands, and the author of Individuality and the Group, who has studied online behavior for 20 years, "Trolls aspire to violence, to the level of trouble they can cause in an environment. They want it to kick off. They want to promote antipathetic emotions of disgust and outrage, which morbidly gives them a sense of pleasure."

In academic literature, the practice of trolling was first documented by Judith Donath (1999). Donath's paper outlines the ambiguity of identity in a disembodied "virtual community" such as Usenet:

In the physical world there is an inherent unity to the self, for the body provides a compelling and convenient definition of identity. The norm is: one body, one identity ... The virtual world is different. It is composed of information rather than matter.

Donath provides a concise overview of identity deception games which trade on the confusion between physical and epistemic community:

Trolling is a game about identity deception, albeit one that is played without the consent of most of the players. The troll attempts to pass as a legitimate participant, sharing the group's common interests and concerns; the newsgroups members, if they are cognizant of trolls and other identity deceptions, attempt to both distinguish real from trolling postings, and upon judging a poster a troll, make the offending poster leave the group. Their success at the former depends on how well they – and the troll – understand identity cues; their success at the latter depends on whether the troll's enjoyment is sufficiently diminished or outweighed by the costs imposed by the group. Trolls can be costly in several ways. A troll can disrupt the discussion on a newsgroup, disseminate bad advice, and damage the feeling of trust in the newsgroup community. Furthermore, in a group that has become sensitized to trolling – where the rate of deception is high – many honestly naïve questions may be quickly rejected as trollings. This can be quite off-putting to the new user who upon venturing a first posting is immediately bombarded with angry accusations. Even if the accusation is unfounded, being branded a troll is quite damaging to one's online reputation.

Susan Herring and colleagues in "Searching for Safety Online: Managing 'Trolling' in a Feminist Forum" point out the difficulty inherent in monitoring trolling and maintaining freedom of speech in online communities: "harassment often arises in spaces known for their freedom, lack of censure, and experimental nature". Free speech may lead to tolerance of trolling behavior, complicating the members' efforts to maintain an open, yet supportive discussion area, especially for sensitive topics such as race, gender, and sexuality.

In an effort to reduce uncivil behavior by increasing accountability, many web sites (e.g. Reuters, Facebook, and Gizmodo) now require commenters to register their names and e-mail addresses.
get your weight up bitch. look like a fucking stick figure
i prolly am skinny compared to fat yank like yourself lol xd
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maybe its that awful shirt, but you look very skinny indeed
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which pic?
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that "problem officer" one
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so that means this is a troll too right?
In my opinion, trolling is an art
>an
I see what you did there.
an is grammatically correct...
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Yes, and the mainstream troller uses "a" of course. He knows enough people here know "a" is a troll and hopes to get responses saying that he has to use "a"
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well fuck you Manj
thx for that comment, I really had to laugh :D
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agree with the description of saken
I think ure an idiot
no trolling
I here you cry
This is why the ":D" smiley is there. Trolled son.
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Once again, Kamz delivers. Nerds are be mad.
Jesus over 100 comments here, dunno who is more stupid you trying to troll here or idiots buying it. This community is pretty retarded thats fore sure though.
40 % of the comments by kamz himself
10 % of the comments by his buttbuddies
20 % of the comments being pics / gifs
30 % of the comments by community folks saying he's a retard making posts like this (I believe these are the "idiots buying it")
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lol sitting around counting comments at 4 in the morning? xd

u have wayyyyy too much time on your hands

all my journals getting 100-200 replies, i am just popular so deal with it and stop hatin cos nobody cares when u make journal ;l
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ye, being sick (prolly cancer) so cant sleep xD

well, I just won the journal so np ;l + uwrong, bad troll owned
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because words aren't enough
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Kamz #1 player
Kamz stop stylin, these people cant take it braaaaaah
making bad trolls on purpose makes a good troll?

Kamz has never been the same after he went to lan :(
he got braindamage from that 2 vodka shots that got him pissdrunk like a fool.
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haha toen hij naar lan ging deed die zo overdreven aardig echt een poeperd
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ik ga ook naar lan waarschijnlij, triflip haalt me op in utrecht.
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ik heb nog geen idee, wanneer is het eigenlijk?
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weekend ergens rond de 20ste , weet ook niet exact. Staat ergens hier op de site.
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successful troll: 100 mad cf nerds
LMFAO GET EM MANJ
My guess is that this is your hunt for Tosspot's e-pocal and the valve-forever key.

I agree that trolling has gone downhill, haven't laughed at a single troll-journal in ages, I think the last one that got me honestly smiling was Blindi's statement about MPG last spring.

Pretty much sums up the quality of "trolls" of you're pulling off, hopelessly unfunny.
jesus not this mongol again :C
you comin to lan you faggot?
Kamz keeping CF alive xD nerds mad :D
Is this all what you do on your free time? Because those few times i check cf i see you whining about someone and getting flamed. Can you just chill out!?
what is the problem with ur back??? your standing like Quasimodo
u are turning uglier and uglier everytime u post a new pic, also ur family looks ugly and poor
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