G400 Logitech

Logitech G400

by ag0n • 4 Dec 2012, 15:31 • Journals
So i've been using a Logitech G5 for like 7 years, had a G500 meanwhile but i didn't like it at all (heavy, unbalanced, too big for my hand..).

So yeah, bought a G400. Any tips?
- Are you using Logitech Gaming Software?
- Dpi's (for full hd)?
- MarkC_Windows7_MouseFix or something similar?

Somehow the cable seems cheap near G5/G500, there is no weight control or leds showing the dpi's, but then again it was really cheap (29.90€).

Cheers

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t4Mj 4 Dec 2012, 15:36
dont use anything, set 400DPI and always just plug&play
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GoGetEmTiger 4 Dec 2012, 15:36
using the logitech gaming software but well 400 dpi and 500hz like almost anyone rest i didnt change D:
dpi for full hd well just increase it :P
and yeah cable is cheap watch out that u dont rip it apart
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ag0n 4 Dec 2012, 15:38
Well, my 7 years old G5 cable is still as new, so i guess it will last, but still, expected better.

Why 500 hz? Isn't it 1000hz default?
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GoGetEmTiger 4 Dec 2012, 15:41
i never saw any mouse till now getting stable 1000 hz
nor is 500 totally stable but its way better than 125hz :P
and u wont see the difference anyway its from 2ms(500hz) to 1ms(1000hz)
so i would advise not to use 1000hz on any mouse
maybe in the future but right now it sux D:
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ag0n 4 Dec 2012, 15:50
True, but usually the max / min peaks are acceptable :o atleast at my G5

image: J3xN2
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GoGetEmTiger 4 Dec 2012, 15:55
as u can see with 500 its not perfectly stable well thats the best u can get nowaday i suppose
but 1000hz is way different check it out :)
u get numbers from 100 to 1000 :P
thats not acceptable well atleast i dont think so :/
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ag0n 4 Dec 2012, 15:56
That's my 7 yo G5, haven't connected the G400 yet... Will do it soon ^^
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quebratolas 4 Dec 2012, 18:01
best value is 250hz
-u dont need more
-over 250hz it starts to be cpu intensive, interfiring with the game itself
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ag0n 4 Dec 2012, 18:12
Doubt you can even notice if you have a good enough cpu. I have stable 125 fps, event with max settings...
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Raiven 4 Dec 2012, 21:23
from 100 to 1000? nice joke
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belto 4 Dec 2012, 17:07
image: mini_265101mouserate

Not stable ?
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urtier 4 Dec 2012, 16:10
http://www.upload.ee/files/2879947/dpi_formula.xls.html

You can calculate the needed minimum dpi for your specific resolution, fov etc with this little tool ((c) h8m3).
Other than that, I'd recommend using the Mousefix you posted. I have no idea about the Logitech software, if it comes with tons of useless mouse enhancing fixes, I personally wouldn't use it and rely on the default settings.
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ag0n 4 Dec 2012, 16:20
I have no clue what the new Logitech software brings. I only used Setpoint back then (terrible program).

Thank you for the link. I have no clue how many cm's i need to do a 360, will test soon, but seems like 400 dpi or lower is enough for me :X

http://i.imgur.com/YZeSX.png
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urtier 4 Dec 2012, 16:37
It's enough for most, even on higher resolutions and it's most likely causing least problems regarding negative/positive acceleration etc.
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Deltona 4 Dec 2012, 16:26
g500 ftw
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HIRVI 4 Dec 2012, 16:51
I have g400 and I haven't used the program. Using 400dpi 1000hz.

G400 and MX518 still share bad cord and it breaks pretty easily but if you just use it carefully I think you'll be fine.
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ag0n 4 Dec 2012, 17:31
Considering my 7+ yo G5 is still rolling, i would say i use everything carefully :P Even my 7 years old headset lasted along time, but only 1 side works now (thats why i also get a new headset)!
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Alexis 4 Dec 2012, 20:36
which one u got? Im so annoyed by the fact that every single headset i had, it died cus of wire contact and ending up only one side of the earphones working, so annoying when u pay for some decent headset and get the same problem as u got with the 5€ one.
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ag0n 4 Dec 2012, 21:21
Well, i had a Zalman 5.1 for long time till it stopped working as i said, but then again i am really careful with the cables. They are not on the floor so it kinda lasts. I bought a Sennheiser PC 320 Game, hope they last. But my choice was a Sennheiser HD 439 with some external mic, but they were out of stock and i didn't wanna wait. The HD 439 have a removable cable. It even comes with a normal 1.5m cable for mp3 and a 3m cable for pc usage. Check it out, it's the best solution if the cable is always the problem ^^
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Alexis 4 Dec 2012, 22:18
well i got to buy new one as well, as the current one is dieing, due to the one earphone not working, but i prob wont spend more than 30-50€ as its pretty pointless to throw big chunk of cash into it and then after year or two be forced to buy new one again.
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malkavian 4 Dec 2012, 16:57
what does mouse dpi have to do with fullhd? :s

nvm saw urtiers link xd
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ag0n 4 Dec 2012, 17:32
I am not a pro, but seems like the higher your resolution is, less dpi's you need!
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Alexis 4 Dec 2012, 17:26
just use as little programs as u can, best is just to plug and play and just find the right sense.
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milhAus 4 Dec 2012, 17:27
best mouse ever

400 dpi
500hz
2.8 in game sens
windows default sens

pro
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ag0n 4 Dec 2012, 17:33
Isn't it hard to move the mouse at daily windows usage @ default sense + 400 dpi? Takes ages to move from one side to another at full hd!

Why 500hz instead of default 1000hz?

Thanks for sharing!
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FiLuS 4 Dec 2012, 17:43
I used to play with mx518 for over 3 years, it was great mouse. Then I switch to Steelseries Ikari which was awesome as well, but dbl click issue kept me away from repurchasing it. So I got myself G400. Here is my setup:
- Windows 7 64-bit
- no logitech shit software!!! (it was shit back then and I am not gonna trust it now)
- default (in the middle) windows sens
- MarkC mousefix
- 400 DPI ingame (I seriously doubt you will need more than that in any normal circuumstances anyway)
- 1000Hz (this is default value for G400, I don't see why would anyone change that...)
- 2.65-3.8 ingame sens (ranging from ~25 to 15cm for 180 turn), depends on how my mousepad feels
- in QL I use 4.2-4.6
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ag0n 4 Dec 2012, 17:46
Well, i feel tempted to test the Logitech software considering this new one was made for gamers. Curious of how it performs. Will see, might test the G400 in less than a hour, cleaning my place atm..

Cheers
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FiLuS 4 Dec 2012, 17:49
I am better off not testing it. When I installed Setpoint when I first got MX518, it just fucked up everything it could and it took me half a day to clean everything up in registry (especially acceleration, even after uninstalling setpoint it kept turning acceleration on). Unless you would want different DPI for horizontal/vertical movement I don't think there is anything in mouse soft you could benefit from.
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frozz. 4 Dec 2012, 18:04
ive got log gaming software,1600dpi(dont ask why,been using it since day 1 on this mouse and since i play sc2 its not as important as it was in et(well not important there either cuz i was bad))...1000hz..mousefix?is that relevant in win7?
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snsz 4 Dec 2012, 20:00
- Are you using Logitech Gaming Software?
YES, its totally different and better then the one from mx518.

- Dpi's (for full hd)?
I use 1000 dpi, 1600x900 reso and i like it.

- MarkC_Windows7_MouseFix or something similar?
I use windows default, makes me move better, but MarkC makes u track a little better.

-1000hz
-Pretty good mouse
-Cable is shit as the mx518's, which takes the risk to stop responding after few months
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frozz. 4 Dec 2012, 20:10
yep but still by far best buy mouse on market..and will stay as long as its being produced.for 30€ its absolutely amazing
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Alexis 4 Dec 2012, 20:39
funny never had any problems with cable on mx518
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nicon 4 Dec 2012, 21:55
1000hz, 850dpi, 1440x900, 6/11win, may be kinda highsens, using software, cause why the fuck not,

sup with your g500, how different is it really? I find my g400 a bit light&small :/

Also has anyone been using the roccat savu or lachesis?
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ag0n 4 Dec 2012, 22:13
Well, first i found the G500 a bit too heavy by default and too big for my hand. I also dislike the fact that the sensor is not in the middle, plus it weights more in the "front", if you don't use weights.
And it's a laser mouse, so technically the G400 is better and less expensive.
But it had some good stuff comparing to G400. The scroll was better, you could control the weight / dpi (visual indication), and everything you do can be saved at mouse memory (i guess that's good for gamers / lan).
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nicon 4 Dec 2012, 22:32
ah alright, got mine for free :P won't buy a new mouse while I got this, but the 500 seemed to be exactly what the 400 lacks for me
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torM 4 Dec 2012, 23:45
I used bought and used this mouse, sorry but it is a waste of money it rlly sucks!
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blackwolf1 5 Dec 2012, 12:10
g400, Logitech gaming software (better than old setpoint), markC fix, win sens 6/11, 400dpi, 3.2 ingamesens, 1000hz, win 7 ultimate 64bit. Everything works fine!
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ag0n 5 Dec 2012, 16:21
Thanks, but what i am wondering is: how can you guys use 6/11 sense with 400 dpi? Takes ages to move from one side of desktop to another :o
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