apparently its still needed, until CB changes the rules officially we have to use them for our summercup matches. at least last I checked TZAC was a requirement.
Common sense we shouldn't use this shit anymore, but I don't want whiney kids complaining because we don't use it and it's "apart of the rules"
Well thats true at least lag wise, we can't say that TZAC is really useless, i mean, at the past it did the job better than any other anti-cheat, but now ofc is useless, if noone is updating and taking care of.
i mean now that a cracked version of tzac is released.. at least PB still has some ways to bust people, tzac has none if youre using the cracked version
Didn't I unban you?
And you are saying Tzac was shit anyway, so I believe you when YOU say that.
Since you're awesome knowledge is so good, that even Premier league players could learn something from. Or is it?
few days ago i launched et after one month and saw that swanidius finally reaching something after 10 years of hard 3on3 nerding, made me laugh and i wont launch again for few months this shit game
guys we need groupe of people to make new better easier anti-cheat !! Is there somebody who knows how to make it? just do it for your self and for our ET .... :(
lets just use the old NO-PB configs worked also in the past... pretty annoying to use a program with no use afterwall.. and how about changing the format system to 5o5 again? "big discussion" but wouldnt it revive some more teams? just my thoughts but et is dead anyway no matter how hard we try sadly..
as much as I don't think ET should go back to 5on5, its on its last stretch due to numbers and so on and should probably keep the core players as much as possible - that will be hard if we change to 5on5 imo.
the '5on5 didnt really do ET much good' comment is a bit off and I guess you just have no clue what you are talking about. More orgs were involved in ET, more consistent LAN events and more teams attending LAN when there was 5on5 than at any period in the game previous or since.
I meant gameplay-wise. It made wars less interesting, and even when we changed back to 6on6 people still played like they did in 5on5 -- it permanently made wars less exciting.
mSc is shit and doesn't have a clue about how to code a decent AC. He actually even banned players per server commands who weren't even cheating on a server he was an admin of
Yet he has silently busted more of that scum like u than tzac ever did/will, with a single script on one server.
Too bad he did it in an illegal matter, but heck none of the pubbers even noticed the 1kb download anyway.
I'd love to see him ACTUALLY try this time and clean up 99% of this community.
Force a script that reads the programs running while playing ET per client.
Better yet, force something that just does not allow anything else running.
It's really one of the best ways to PREVENT cheating in stead of solving it.
'Oh hey, I just received a notification that my file reads you have aimbot2themax.exe running while you want to connect/are connected! How about you get the fuck out , BANNED. :) "
But yeah, this goes in to privacy matters and that's where it all starts failing I guess.
I thought pb worked like that, scanning programs while ET was running. Maybe i was wrong.
If it scans only while ET is running, how about if players were forced to tick "I agree it scans my running programs etc etc." box? Im sure none of us are like Snowden or anything like that...
I actually have no idea how PB worked but I am pretty sure you can not legally just force a user to share all his usage..
Or you force agreement upon usage indeed, that could work I guess..
I have no idea about that matter, but like I said, it'd be better if it didn't even have to scan but just prevent you from running anything else that injects or so
Thats the most retarded idea of a anti-cheat implementation i ever saw.
Do you really think it would work?
- First of all, that implies all cheats are know, which automatically excludes private /self made hacks.
- Second, what would happen when someone renames the executable file (.exe) ? Insta undetectable hack? :D
- Third, it could work, but what if someone renames a normal file to this aimbot2themax.exe? Would they get caught? On what basis? It could work if they add some kind of checksum verification, but that would imply all cheats would be known on a certain system.
Creating a anti-cheat is more about detecting patterns, violations and shit like that... it has to be as much automatic as possible. A system like this depends on alot of variables, which means it's highly inefficient. Think how some anti-virus works. How they detect it? Based on file name yes (but just the name is not enough... at all), but also they try to prevent it based on suspicious file behaviour..
I'm talking about extensions,not so much as specific cheats lol, was just an example calm down :P
And as I mentioned, just prevend the usage of certain extensions as a whole when running ET.
I am calm, don't get me wrong. It's just that it wouldn't work because it's a dumb idea (no offense). As you can read from my previous statement, there is alot of unanswered questions.
Think outside the box :P
ahaha :D don't blame it on me! Is it my fault that i am studying IT stuff (to be specific master at IT Engineering)?
But on a serious note, it isn't too specific, trust me. I don't even have any real clue how a good implementation would work, but if someone gets their hands to do something about it, it better be a decent solution to try to fight the problem... because even PB could fulfill what you are "demanding"
If Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory is running, nothing else can run.
You play Wolfenstein:Enemy Territory through your BIOS in stead of starting Windows.
small letter x, capital D, as in a smileyface on it's side.
No matter how much he was away or what not, i find is weird that community is fine with someone stealing the work he has done and ev noone complains about that.
Then again, i havent really followed this shit too much but thats what i got from what i have read on crossfire.nu and seen on irc, feel free to correct me if im wrong though.
Also who really gives a fuck at this point, ET been dead for year or two alredy
If I had a project I pretty much created on my own and even named it after me. Fuck letting anyone tell me I am nothing to do with the project even if I am away for 6 months.
The only ones who believe TZAC was "stolen" from chaplja are either delusional or simply unaware of what actually happened.
Even chaplja himself knows that what he's saying is bullshit; he is just desperately trying to get people to believe him so that he can sell them cheats.
He is a scumbag, and has always been one. If you want the full story PM ohurcool.. but chaplja is NOT telling the truth. ( Why you would even consider believing someone who has created cheats in the past is beyond me )
Im not really up to date what happend with it. Chaplja was gone for some time and some people took over TZAC? Since he came back couldnt he just have worked together with who ever took it to their own hands?
He doesn't necessarily have access to the client (though I wouldn't know) but the banner image comes from an image on http://tz-ac.com/, since he still controls the domain he can change the image to whatever he likes unless you alter your hosts file here: http://entirely.pro/tzac/fixes.php
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I would donate , but I m not trusting you ppl anymore. You could be another Marcus.
this is too funny honestly lol
chappy scamming us yet again
Chapjla's anticheat measure 2k13 smarter than all of u!
but nothing happend :/
Common sense we shouldn't use this shit anymore, but I don't want whiney kids complaining because we don't use it and it's "apart of the rules"
but I'd prefer CB using PB though, as it's easier to configure and use for new players than TZAC
And you are saying Tzac was shit anyway, so I believe you when YOU say that.
Since you're awesome knowledge is so good, that even Premier league players could learn something from. Or is it?
few days ago i launched et after one month and saw that swanidius finally reaching something after 10 years of hard 3on3 nerding, made me laugh and i wont launch again for few months this shit game
+ I have already won esl&cb 3v3/2v2 2009/2010
now that chaplja linked tz-ac.com to his site it shows this
the '5on5 didnt really do ET much good' comment is a bit off and I guess you just have no clue what you are talking about. More orgs were involved in ET, more consistent LAN events and more teams attending LAN when there was 5on5 than at any period in the game previous or since.
Too bad he did it in an illegal matter, but heck none of the pubbers even noticed the 1kb download anyway.
I'd love to see him ACTUALLY try this time and clean up 99% of this community.
Force a script that reads the programs running while playing ET per client.
Better yet, force something that just does not allow anything else running.
It's really one of the best ways to PREVENT cheating in stead of solving it.
'Oh hey, I just received a notification that my file reads you have aimbot2themax.exe running while you want to connect/are connected! How about you get the fuck out , BANNED. :) "
But yeah, this goes in to privacy matters and that's where it all starts failing I guess.
If it scans only while ET is running, how about if players were forced to tick "I agree it scans my running programs etc etc." box? Im sure none of us are like Snowden or anything like that...
Or you force agreement upon usage indeed, that could work I guess..
I have no idea about that matter, but like I said, it'd be better if it didn't even have to scan but just prevent you from running anything else that injects or so
Do you really think it would work?
- First of all, that implies all cheats are know, which automatically excludes private /self made hacks.
- Second, what would happen when someone renames the executable file (.exe) ? Insta undetectable hack? :D
- Third, it could work, but what if someone renames a normal file to this aimbot2themax.exe? Would they get caught? On what basis? It could work if they add some kind of checksum verification, but that would imply all cheats would be known on a certain system.
Creating a anti-cheat is more about detecting patterns, violations and shit like that... it has to be as much automatic as possible. A system like this depends on alot of variables, which means it's highly inefficient. Think how some anti-virus works. How they detect it? Based on file name yes (but just the name is not enough... at all), but also they try to prevent it based on suspicious file behaviour..
And as I mentioned, just prevend the usage of certain extensions as a whole when running ET.
Think outside the box :P
Peace *
But on a serious note, it isn't too specific, trust me. I don't even have any real clue how a good implementation would work, but if someone gets their hands to do something about it, it better be a decent solution to try to fight the problem... because even PB could fulfill what you are "demanding"
You play Wolfenstein:Enemy Territory through your BIOS in stead of starting Windows.
small letter x, capital D, as in a smileyface on it's side.
Only option is to move back to NO anti cheat. Good luck with that :)
but i dont want to revive that discussion again, just wanted to write something.
No matter how much he was away or what not, i find is weird that community is fine with someone stealing the work he has done and ev noone complains about that.
Then again, i havent really followed this shit too much but thats what i got from what i have read on crossfire.nu and seen on irc, feel free to correct me if im wrong though.
Also who really gives a fuck at this point, ET been dead for year or two alredy
Is this community really that stupid?
Even chaplja himself knows that what he's saying is bullshit; he is just desperately trying to get people to believe him so that he can sell them cheats.
Why are you even logging in when he can prob see your info etc
wths up bro
http://etmods.net/forums/viewtopic.php?id=758&p=2
chaplja is nice. He will create a mod which will save ET, hence I believe everything he tells :)
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I would donate , but I m not trusting you ppl anymore. You could be another Marcus.
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