CB ET: Demos & Democrew
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2 Sep 2013, 23:37
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With the Fall 2013 season starting soon, the ClanBase ET Crew and I have been working hard to find alternative methods of busting cheaters. One of our ideas is to focus more on banning by demos. To help us accomplish this, we have decided to start a democrew.
What is a democrew?
A democrew is a small group of trustworthy players who have the time and experience to regularly review demos of suspected cheaters and give their unbiased opinion on whether or not the player in question is cheating.Although several CB admins will be included in the democrew, it is not an official ClanBase crew position.
How do I submit a demo?
Any type of demo can be submitted. It does not matter if the action took place in an official cup/ladder match, in an IRC war, or on a public server. However, we do require a few things from you.First, we obviously need a demo to review. You can either send us a .dm_84 file or a link to a match on GamesTV with a replay available. We also accept .avi files but still require the actual demo or replay to be available upon request.
Secondly, we need proof that the player in the demo is who you claim it is. The best way to do this is to provide us with the server logs, but we are also open to looking at other forms of proof if you can come up with any.
Finally, we need timestamps. It makes our job a lot easier if you let us know what we should be looking for and where and when we should be looking for it. Example: "first round - 6:22 - shoots at player behind wall".
Can I join the democrew?
Not any more! Applications are now closed. Thanks to everyone who applied!If you'd like to report a cheater, please send a PM to
ohurcool or 
Aniky here on Crossfire with all necessary information.It seems like everyone is always quick to come up with ideas for helping to keep ET alive, but rarely does someone actually step up and do something. This is your chance! We're counting on you guys to help us out here.
#clanbase.et
and wouldn't bother watching some guys :)
but csgo+et (hopefully ec)+ et 3o3 oc + uni + job its rly hard to find time :x
Be aware of the ''friendreviews'' :D
This does bring a question though, you wouldn't be(have to be) doing this if the new AC you're speaking of is actually good.. Already not sure about it's performance or simple double measurements?
Anyway good luck, can expect loads of demos coming in from the least bits of suspicion bringing you crap loads of work, looking forward to seeing the results.
We've seen plenty of demo's suspicious enough for at least a decent few-man review.
By the way, a quick question, or delete/edit this and go through pm:
Were you guys able to look in to the TZ-AC violations database? I've seen many names listed on that, that when given a demo could be taken in to account as well. Or at least prioritizing such names.
Also, as you've been kind enough to point out in other journals, we're not exactly experts in coding anticheats.
Those violations could very well be 1 year old now and not even remain with the players, but they did clearly state who was doing(using) what. They also are not ban worthy, but are worth taking in to account when reviewing someone's demo that has been on such a list, in my opinion. (I mostly want this because I know there were some nice names on the lists :D and get tired of only the obvious people getting banned :P )
Haha, didn't mean to hate on that, noone can expect that from you guys.
But I do know that you guys know some people that can code anti cheats properly and should really look in to that as well ^^ (I know 1 person that can and you know whom I speak off, put aside some differences and I am pretty sure he's willing to help )
I think this should be ban-worthy for some time, or did ClanBase allow using a cracked TZAC version?
Ohurcool is right on that matter and shouldn't ban on that.
Just like as you can't be banned for having a cheat on your pc, but can be for using it.
I'm pretty sure CB policies did not change within a day of the cracked client being released. And even more certain they did not have that policy beforehand :P
And yeah, you could vouch for the: Using a cracked client of the anti cheat will result in a ban. But I think that would be a bit too much for an already dead game.
We could take it into consideration when reviewing demos I guess, but that makes this process even more opinionated, which is something that already makes me rather uncomfortable.
Did a lot of people use a cracked client, or was it a limited amount?
It is very difficult to say someone is cheating when the rest isn't and still ban him.
whueuhe
I'm pretty sure eventually he'll do something with it, but I'm also pretty certain it won't be for this version of ET(pro).
Hopefully the demo bancrew can sort this out.
znark zabija etc
Relax, there are plenty of foot longs for the both of you.