CG EU ET: Bans & Future Plans
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22 Jan 2014, 00:31
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It's been a little over two weeks since the official launch of CG EU Enemy Territory, and the ladders are running smoothly with plenty of activity. However, some players have been asking about cups, bans, and such, so here is a bit of an update regarding our plans for ET on CyberGamer EU as well as an overview of the bans issued so far!
Cups
We do intend to run cups for both 3on3 and 6on6! The plan was to announce our first cup season this week, but we've decided to wait a bit longer. As mentioned in the initial newspost, the coders at CG have been working on a new website which is due to be released within the next few weeks. So, in order to avoid delays, we will be waiting until CG v5 is here and everything is situated before we start CyberGamer EU ET Season 1.Anticheat
Everyone knows that there is no AC for ET at the moment, but what you may not have been aware of until very recently is that CyberGamer has its own anticheat called CGAC. It only works in CoD4 at the moment but will support ET as well soon. Kevin aka "badkip", the developer, just posted a journal asking for feedback. Leave a comment there with your thoughts!Bans
The democrew is still active, but we need your help! If you think someone has cheated, please send us the demo or link to a GamesTV replay along with timestamps, and we will look into it. There is no public ban list on CyberGamer, so here are the four players who have already been caught cheating and are now banned on CG:That's pretty much it! Any questions?
CG EU ET 6on6 Ladder
CG EU ET 3on3 Ladder
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where did i said that te other 2 used hax? i played obviously during the "bot and wh" time and didnt leave or something.
im Kitt some random nice to meet you
where did i said that te other 2 used hax? i played obviously during the "bot and wh" time and didnt leave or something.
im Kitt some random nice to meet you
ye nearly fullheld
enyhour playing with haxors
even 3 kazims would beat you, no need for cheats
- we didnt cheat
- "closely in 9 minutes" nice oxymoron
smirzz did...
ye wateva
Do not think I am a hater, cuz im grateful what u did for this game, but still... In my opinion this case is the first failure of the demo crew. I hope my hate is reasonable :p
"you can see him pausing and reconnecting with a very obvious aimbot and wallhack.)" We can see him pausing and reconnecting ok but we cant spec him WTF
We just cant spec him even with /freecam so the demo isnt a proof at all. Probably the first time than someone try to ban someone without speccing the player WOW
After the EC 2013/2014 :D We got this. "respect ohurcool best cf admin ever"
It works. You are clearly doing something wrong.
Best tool for catching cheaters.
Just not really into CF community because of trolls.
Maybe if someone ask him kindly.
No idea how to do timestamps or w/e, kinda CBA to take time to make it. If someone could do it i'd be really grateful tho
Round 1:
8:14: player tracking through wall
7:44: could have never known player was there
i remember first time i tought he was cheating is when i couldnt get my acc lower then 56% everygame and he had more then me, started playign with him and.. well. not that good of an aim but still easy to spot that its the .exe moving his mouse
Says who?
Feel free to start coding your own anticheat for public server players, and we'll see which one turns out better.
Unless literally all of this is hosted on CG then those will be pretty much be full of cheaters and while a demo crew is nice for obvious occurrences of cheating it will not catch everyone who cheats. (although neither will an AC, but it is a better deterrent)
Edit: and will potentially lead to a drop in the amount of competitions as people dont want to organise cups for cheaters, except perhaps Robaciek (:D). For instance CF will not have a cup without an AC, that I can promise.
Surely we can agree that an anticheat for CG competitions only is better than no anticheat at all for any competitions.
I understand that having an AC for leagues only is rather inconvenient for running ODCs and CF cups, but there's not much I can do about that. This isn't about trying to force everyone to play on CG only; it is simply us doing our best to provide support for as many players as we can.
I'd like to think that yourself, SPU9 and ohurcool could arrange something. CG has the website functions to admin/run ODCs and other one off cups.
I know it was very different (in terms of activity) but everything we did for Australian cups, ladders etc. was done through CG.
Additionally, you've essentially ruined any and all 3on3/6on6 IRC games, people again, will be forced into an "official setting" by only being able to play ladder matches, or "scrims" on the CG website, or ESL Versus. I for one, I like IRC games, quick, easy, hassle free, I use IRC on a daily basis, I run part of my business through IRC, adding another "interactive social" site to my tabs seems like an effort I don't want to dive into. I don't want to have to create a team and add players, accept/decline challenges, maintain a silly map list, possibly even await delays upon delays in which time I wait for gamestv admins to sort our game out and accept it and do god knows what, only so that I have to actually... take the game serious and try my hardest to win as opposed to just having a relaxed nice time, maybe even fool around a bit or try some odd things I would otherwise never do in an "official" game.
There is, in a player's or even community's point of view, absolutely no benefit what-so-ever, for you to be forcing everything to be ran on the CG website. Obviously, for you it'd be a great deal, for us however? A nuisance, no matter how you twist or pull it.
Don't get me wrong, we all very much appreciate being able to continue playing this game, even more so with an anticheat. But, this is the exact same issue people have had with ESL Wire in the past, this community is too old and way too spoiled for them to ever adapt. If this had happened 5, maybe 6 years ago, surely, but to this day... you're quite lucky to have the activity you do on the ET ladders. I believe I had this same argument with Sn4ke before, few weeks ago, it's a nice feature, it's definitely a great tool being able to scrim or "pug" and look for players available for such on a website, ESEA has done the same for CS, years upon years ago, but... these are things new games, new genres and new generations are standardized to, we're old, we're stubborn and above all, we're too ignorant to bother. I don't see the harm in allowing people to use your anticheat outside of a match game, if anything it acts as a great way of getting the word out, people become more aware (those not necessarily active on crossfire but still partake in the odd IRC game, there's hundreds of them), or even just public players. A new anticheat is just about the best advertisement you can have, get the word out, people realize they need this CyberGames tool to get onto their favorite ET publics with? Oh look at that, more unique hits, even if it's just for the first time download, 1 out of 10 might just get interested and does more than that.
Still agree that it would be nice if the CGAC or similar was available outside of the website but sometimes beggars can't be choosers.
ie. you search a war then through cg you join team a and b?
The thing is, from the coder's perspective (I'm merely assuming on how his setup works), all he has to do is allow a NULL value for the match id (as in, blank field), which takes... 5 to 10 seconds at most and shouldn't interfere with any of its other features, period. If such a thing would be denied, it can really only boil down to CG trying to achieve monopoly over leagues in CoD and ET both. Not sure if that's a good thing to shoot for these days, especially given the recent announcement of ESL possibly picking up ET again.
tadaa, link: http://www.crossfire.nu/journals/151225/cybergamer-for-ladders#c4357405
Will do!
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or even just preconfiguring a DB entry such as "IRC", that would flag this game, if used "IRC" as match id on the client, as a non-CG game, if that made things easier for him. I don't know his code, nor the site, for all I know they could have some mysterious mumbo jumbo of hired basement trolls keeping everything in sync.
Better than nothing, can still catch some cheats
if(matchid == NULL) {
set.online = true; }
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Our policy will be the same as CB with 6-month bans for cheating in public and 12-month bans for cheating on CG.
Cry more whenever you're going to get kicked from NBS fuckface.
hopefully we can keep the -whine walls of text- from the usual AC whiners(oxy,cupra,etc) out of the feedback topic for the CGAC.....
The bigger problem is that in most of you are fucking idiots and you can not see who is cheating and who is not. Give me Admin rights and I will ban all hax :D