1000 mbit and SSDs

by Staary • 10 Apr 2014, 13:17 • Journals
Long-short story I am getting 1gbit connection starting with 1st of May and I was wondering if by downloading stuff on my SSD it would shorten it's lifetime. I could use my other SATA 3 HDD as storage space but the speed performance would never be the same as on the SSD.

So my question is: Is it recommended to download stuff on SSD or not?
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Aniky 10 Apr 2014, 14:43
On SSD u should keep just the basic most important stuff, such as OS, some other programs that require good speed, rest u should just save on the normal HDD, as u will run out of space quickly on SSD if u intend to be saving everything there.
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Oxy 10 Apr 2014, 14:47
Not at all what he asked.

And no, SSD's longevity is superior to mechanical drives. Store as you please. Otherwise I'd recommend a raid setup or maybe SAS drives.
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Staary 10 Apr 2014, 16:34
Thanks for clearing it up
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newbcake 10 Apr 2014, 14:47
It will shorten the lifetime on the SSD, If you keep writing big files towards the SDD. Due to the limited times cells can be rewritten on a SDD unlike a HDD which can be rewritten unlimited times.

EDIT: Though it is still alot of times to rewrite.
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blackwolf1 10 Apr 2014, 14:50
depends on the "stuff" you are going to download :)
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monkeybusiness 10 Apr 2014, 15:01
tentacules hentai
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RIp 10 Apr 2014, 20:52
avoue tas déjà maté ;) ;) ;)
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monkeybusiness 11 Apr 2014, 00:09
j'en regarde en même temps que j'écris ce commentaire
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Staary 10 Apr 2014, 15:56
Mostly series, movies, games etc
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assgaard 10 Apr 2014, 15:00
No,Would increase download speed tho.
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wsk 10 Apr 2014, 15:01

depends

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lahq 10 Apr 2014, 15:13
I still wonder how a fucking second world country can have so much better internet than fucking Germany. Seriously this country is utter trash when it comes to internet. Still sitting on trashy 2mbit, gg.
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Oxy 10 Apr 2014, 15:15
... ? 100mbit here :S
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lahq 10 Apr 2014, 15:24
You're probably living in a 'rather' large city. Well I don't and despite our provider claiming to work on better speeds for a good 5 years already, nothing happens. Huge parts of Germany still suffer from shit internet, there's a reason a debate is going on about Germany losing its attractiveness for companies due to bad i-net infrastructure.
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Zodiac 10 Apr 2014, 15:25
Why aren't the companies located in big cities in the first place? Where, apparently, the internet connection is good.
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lahq 10 Apr 2014, 15:43
Some are, others aren't. Not every city offers the infrastructure & ressources for any company, besides settling in big cities usally is not only a whole lot more expensive, but traffic also plays a role. You don't want to settle in a place where it takes 30min to get from A to B, when u can just settle a bit outside and get from A to B within 10min. Due to the nature of some companies, they aren't even allowed to settle in an urban environment.

There are tons of other reasons and I cba to name them aswell, the point is though, that Germany had, still has and will probably have a shitty internet infrastructure for the next couple of years, if they don't remarkably change something. Bigger cities might offer 100/10 or even 100/50, but looking at the fact that Germany is one of the Top 3 countries economically and the overall wealth, these speeds are mediocre at best.

I don't mind other countries having faster internet, but when countries such as Bulgaria, Romania etc. on average have faster internet than Germans, something is definitely fucking wrong. They keep saying to work on it, but nothing really changes and thats what pisses me off the most.
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caej 10 Apr 2014, 21:09
Your comment is like 'i'm 12 and what is this'
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Zodiac 11 Apr 2014, 15:43
nah, it's just a belief originating from the fact that big companies in Norway are almost exclusively located in the big cities.
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caej 11 Apr 2014, 18:22
Norway is so "thin" that there aint much difference between cities infractures/resources? xd
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russell 10 Apr 2014, 16:00
glad im not alone
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Staary 10 Apr 2014, 16:35
Dunno haha, I got 100 right now but received some offer from the ISP for 1000
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Levin 11 Apr 2014, 15:32
Wat up? I live in a fucking 13k village and we have 150.000 kbps fiber here. Got unitymedia kabel myself with 50mbit tho.
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montage 11 Apr 2014, 17:37
100 uber jewish mbit in the house
Haha.
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Zodiac 10 Apr 2014, 15:24
No, don't worry about it.
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DrLagAlot 10 Apr 2014, 17:09
ssd = around 500MB per second, 1000gbit = 125MB while most HDDs go at 50-70MB/s

but you'll hardly be able to dl at that speed from any server
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Staary 10 Apr 2014, 23:53
Local Tracker with 1000+ seeders per torrent should be able to provide decent speed
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DrLagAlot 10 Apr 2014, 23:59
decent, but not 1000gbit :D
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Staary 11 Apr 2014, 00:01
1000gbit ≠ 1000mbit
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Acizco 10 Apr 2014, 17:57
Not that much that you would really notice it.
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vj7o 10 Apr 2014, 18:04
i cant read such tread. I'm feeling sad.
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DrLagAlot 10 Apr 2014, 18:16
Same haha, 6mbit connection here
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vj7o 11 Apr 2014, 16:31
3 mb here.
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beNNN 10 Apr 2014, 18:29
Practically -every- household in Belgium can get 120mbit, but there it ends. Where romania is hugely deploying ftth we will stay with our outdated cables for a long time.
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zenix 10 Apr 2014, 19:52
It's not a problem, just look at the wear level over time. If you still need to buy a SSD buy Crucial M500/M550.

Don't buy Samsung 840 EVO, since that one has a big buffer that will fill overtime while downloading causing much lower performance. Also the M500/M550 has MLC NAND instead of the TLC NAND on the Samsung 840 EVO. MLC has longer life span. A big advantage of the Crucial M500/M550 are the power capacitors, this means that your SSD will always be shutdown gracefully. If you don't shutdown a SSD gracefully the NAND pages can be broken or the SSD itself.
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Staary 10 Apr 2014, 23:58
I already own a OCZ Agility 3 128GB
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zenix 13 Apr 2014, 20:38
The unreliable SandForce controller will fail sooner than the flash itself. Please don't put any important data on it. And if you get problems with your computer like a BSOD, you should look at the SSD.
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pulssi2 11 Apr 2014, 21:30
Yeah, MLC is shit, just see for yourself:
http://techreport.com/review/25889/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-500tb-update

You might actually notice some lost space after writing 140 GB per day to the drive for 20 years.
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zenix 13 Apr 2014, 20:32
MLC is shit?
SLC > MLC > TLC in terms of performance and wear.
And yeah people should not worry about writing a lot on SLC/MLC/TLC
My X25-M 80GB SSD has a some broken cells after 8TB, but is still fully functional.
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msh100 10 Apr 2014, 22:21
The speed you write to the SSD wont be the issue, it will be the number of times you rewrite blocks - so dont worry about it
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