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1 Aug 2014, 16:08
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Greetings,
with this journal I want to illustrate you the glaring injustice that has happened in the SummerCup '14 due to malicious admin decision(s).
3on3 Group B points after groupstage according to Chilax:
Credibilis 2 Wins, 1 Loss 8/1
The Finest 2 Wins, 1 Loss 5/6
Craze 2 Wins, 1 Loss 4/4
One Way 0 Wins, 3 Losses 0/6
According to Chilax a forfeit loss is worth 1 point in the cup:
<chilax> forfeit wins are 1-0
<chilax> and the 4-0 or 1-0
<chilax> doesnt really matter
Quote from the original announcement of the cup: "Rules for the ET SummerCup '14:(= CG rules)" http://www.crossfire.nu/news/8540/et-summercup-14-announcement
Now then, no such rule exists in the CyberGamer 3on3 league rules which can be read here: http://eu.cybergamer.com/pc/et3v3league/league/rules/ (this is the link to the rules in the Cup announcement news post)
So, looks like Chilax just came up with this extra rule in the middle of the cup without any announcements about it, which is quite frankly, blatantly ridiculous, considering the fact that people actually donated money to this cup. One might think that the rules that are announced in the beginning of the cup are the rules that we all agree to comply during the entire cup.
If you take into consideration that a forfeit win is 4-0, the group should look like this:
Craze 2 Wins, 1 Loss 10/4
Credibilis 2 Wins, 1 Loss 8/4
The Finest 2 Wins, 1 Loss 8/6
One Way 0 Wins, 3 Losses 0/12
To give you an overview about the matches that have been played:
Craze lost 2-4 to The Finest, won two matches by forfeit
Credibilis won 4-0 against The Finest and One Way, lost one match by forfeit
The Finest won 4-2 against craze and 4-0 by forfeit against One Way, lost 0-4 to credibilis
One Way lost 0-4 to credibilis and two matches by forfeit
Even if a forfeit win is only worth 1 point it is still unfair due to the fact that we didn't have the chance to play against one way and credibilis.
Conclusion: Eventhough team Craze would advance to the playoffs according to the original 3on3 league rules it does not happen in this cup. No. Instead team Craze is being dropped out of the cup. For what? More viewers? Better games?
I think an explanation is in order here.
with this journal I want to illustrate you the glaring injustice that has happened in the SummerCup '14 due to malicious admin decision(s).
3on3 Group B points after groupstage according to Chilax:
Credibilis 2 Wins, 1 Loss 8/1
The Finest 2 Wins, 1 Loss 5/6
Craze 2 Wins, 1 Loss 4/4
One Way 0 Wins, 3 Losses 0/6
According to Chilax a forfeit loss is worth 1 point in the cup:
<chilax> forfeit wins are 1-0
<chilax> and the 4-0 or 1-0
<chilax> doesnt really matter
Quote from the original announcement of the cup: "Rules for the ET SummerCup '14:(= CG rules)" http://www.crossfire.nu/news/8540/et-summercup-14-announcement
Now then, no such rule exists in the CyberGamer 3on3 league rules which can be read here: http://eu.cybergamer.com/pc/et3v3league/league/rules/ (this is the link to the rules in the Cup announcement news post)
So, looks like Chilax just came up with this extra rule in the middle of the cup without any announcements about it, which is quite frankly, blatantly ridiculous, considering the fact that people actually donated money to this cup. One might think that the rules that are announced in the beginning of the cup are the rules that we all agree to comply during the entire cup.
If you take into consideration that a forfeit win is 4-0, the group should look like this:
Craze 2 Wins, 1 Loss 10/4
Credibilis 2 Wins, 1 Loss 8/4
The Finest 2 Wins, 1 Loss 8/6
One Way 0 Wins, 3 Losses 0/12
To give you an overview about the matches that have been played:
Craze lost 2-4 to The Finest, won two matches by forfeit
Credibilis won 4-0 against The Finest and One Way, lost one match by forfeit
The Finest won 4-2 against craze and 4-0 by forfeit against One Way, lost 0-4 to credibilis
One Way lost 0-4 to credibilis and two matches by forfeit
Even if a forfeit win is only worth 1 point it is still unfair due to the fact that we didn't have the chance to play against one way and credibilis.
Conclusion: Eventhough team Craze would advance to the playoffs according to the original 3on3 league rules it does not happen in this cup. No. Instead team Craze is being dropped out of the cup. For what? More viewers? Better games?
I think an explanation is in order here.
gg
One can not assume that a forfeit win is just 1-0
It's not so much "rewarding" craze for winning by forfeit as it is "punishing" the other two teams who lost by forfeit.
If team A loses 1 game 2-4 and wins 2 games by forfeit while team B wins 1 game 4-0 and loses 2 games by forfeit, team A should advance. But according to the 1-0 system, team B would.
also: when rounds do matter, getting a 4-0 result from a forfeit vs e.g. cRe is surely just unfair? :D that result would never occur and so 1-0 is the most they could hope for (no offence).
It works both ways. There could also be a scenario where a team who will most likely get raped 0-4 decides to noshow so that they lose 0-1 instead and still advance to the playoffs.
One cannot simply assume that everyone is aware of these unwritten truths.
at the very least this journal should be a wake up call to update the rules
Chilax is new to this, and needs to make decisions on his own and as this community proved shit loads of times (fuck you if you try to tell me Im not the most annoying/retarded one)that it's full of ungrateful fucktwits without patience.
It's not as he could forgot about such a thing! No way he could!
If something, there should be offer for them matches to be played so you could get anally raped on ettv
No flamerino please.
<3 Ava
First of all I dont really hate flamers, since I got flamed very early since entering this community (or maybe rather being active player under this nick - at etpro), so Im used to it and I really dont even care anymore if someone flames/hates me, unless it's someone that I either don't know, or I heard about - that he's a nice guy, eventho the logic may seem completely retarded and it even may be...
I think those certain things should be solved somehow, but this is a poor attempt to flame chilax, who is a busted ex-cheater, but I can't remember if I ever flamed him for being retarded or anything, he's one of the nicest guy I've met in ET and doesn't deserve ridiculous flame for something he's new to.
PS: Do you think they would beat them if they didnt win through forfeit?
Pot... meet kettle.
u fuckin ungrateful piece of shit be happy that some1 is investing so much time for u fgts or next time do it by urself with ur own rules etc... but ye i guess u r too lazy for that
over and out
If I am not mistaken you are a biology student who is almost finished with his studies and yet you act like Bobika or some other 14-years old and mentally deranged kid.
thef have the exact result which always ends up not making the playoffs in 3-way tie. Lose a map in your W and dont get any in your L. Unlucky forfeits played the part here but thef should be the ones out.
craZe vs. The Finest = 2:4
craZe vs. credibilis = forfeit lose for cr. = 4/0 (1/0)
craZe vs. One way = forfeit lose for One = 4/0 (1/0)
Makes 2 Wins, 1 Lose and 10/4 (In case the 1/0 rule is active = 4/4)
credibilis vs. craZe = forfeit lose for cr. = 0/4 (0/1)
credibilis vs. One Way = 4/0
credibilis vs. The Finest = 4/0
Makes 2 Wins, 1 Lose and 8/4 (In case the 1/0 rule is active = 8/1)
The Finest vs. craZe = 4/2
The Finest vs. One Way = forfeit lose for One = 4/0 (1/0)
The Finest vs. credibilis = 0/4
Makes 2 Wins, 1 Lose and 8/6 (In case the rule 1/0 is active = 5/6)
One Way vs. craZe = forfeit lose for One = 0/4 (0/1)
One Way vs. The Finest = forfeit lose for One = 0/4 (0/1)
One Way vs. credibilis = 0/4
Makes 0 Wins, 3 Loses and 0/12 (In case the rule 1/0 is active = 0/6)
If the 1/0 Rule is not active:
Place Teamname W L Points Difference
1. craZe 2 1 10/4+6
2. credibilis 2 1 8/4 +4
3. TheFinest 2 1 8/6 +2
4. OneWay 0 3 0/12 -12
If the 1/0 Rule is active:
Place Teamname W L Points Difference
1. credibilis 2 1 8/1 +7
2. craZe 2 1 4/4 0
3. TheFinest 2 1 5/6 -1
4. OneWay 0 3 0/6 -6
Now I got some questions.
1. Isn't the difference of the points important for the groupstage?
2. If I remember right, the old CB Rules said that team who lost two times by forfeit will be disqualified from the running and the next cup. So it would look like that:
Place Teamname W L Points Difference
1. credibilis 2 1 4/1 +3
2. craZe 2 1 3/4 -1
3. TheFinest 2 1 4/6 -2
OUT OneWay
So it doesnt matter what rule is active or not: In my opinion credibilis and craZe're going into the playoffs.
If u got another opinion about that, u can write it down. And no, it doesnt matter what team played better, the statistic is important and not the performance of these teams!
not everyone is highskilled but does that mean we are not welcome into playoffs?
then again people should make a highskill group only and put the others into a group.. so your egos won't get lower than low..
is like kicking out Iran,Saudi Arabia and other not so skilled Football/soccer teams from the World Cup...
this Community is fucked up
http://eu.cybergamer.com/bracket/53/ET-3on3-SummerCup-14:-Playoffs/
As you can see we would have taken credibilis' spot while they would have taken yours (keep in mind that this is just an assumption if it is based on points). So our first match would be against 8bits or the best and with all due respect I think that our chances would be 50-50. Plus one top team wouldn't have a free ride in the first round.
Furthermore we are aware that we won't have any chances against the top teams but neither has your team nor SM nor citizen nor ....
Ignore the inbreds
You know who I'm talking about :)
And you might say you are not whining but what's the point of your post then? Kindly saying that chillax added a rule in the middle of the cup and asking the community its opinion about the result, isn't it whining?