ET Reborn LAN: Feedback
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20 Apr 2015, 22:15
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ET Reborn LAN feedback.
It is great to see that many of you have enjoyed the ET Reborn LAN. Nevertheless, there are always certain things which could have gone better. We would like to receive feedback from the event itself, from both people who attended and who did not. Try to give constructive feedback, which means rather then just pointing out the problem, also try to come up with a solution. We will use this feedback for a possible next years' edition. Thanks in advance!
What could in your opinion have gone better?
- Better PCs & Monitors
We have found in jesse someone who could help us getting good PCs & 144 hz Monitors for a price which lays in within our budget.
- Position of tables
Try to find tables where 6 persons each can sit on
- Changing the times on GamesTV to the times that games had been delayed
- More map variation in the play offs.
Disallow teams to pick the same map as previous rounds, till Grand Final.
- Deals with nearby restaurants.
- Deals with nearby hotels.
Having a bar next to the PCs is something which is uncommon but also really nice to have. Looking to different alternatives is always good. On the other hand, renting a place which has the PCs itself costs more than a place as Wzzrd.
people near the area pointing people to cheap hotels/possible places to sleep at, proper guide on how to get from point A to B. Also if I'm honest, as good and enjoyable as Merlin's stream was, it was nowhere near as enjoyable as any other stream(not just ET btw), because simply when the caster is at lan itself it's much more concrete and there isn't so much bias - plus also he can tune in with the players right after their matches and talk to them about the match,event,meaning of life, quality of weed or whatever, which was always quite enjoyable...
Stream would have been a lot worse if it was live due to equipment and bitrate issues and would have had about 50% less games and I would be just as neutral at the event as I was at home I guess - I have no affinity with any of those teams, I just based random chat on performances I have witnessed in the last 5~ months. Talking to people after games is rarely ever done - the LANs you might be thinking of have 10-20 people behind the scenes doing things for the live coverage who you never see. Hell even CF LANs had about a 4-5 man crew doing it.
- u guys tried to be strict and mostly held your words.. but dont make differences between the teams! if u say a time when the game will be forced then do it! u did it at some games and then again at others not - makes it looking unfair for others!
- a BIG point were the tables.. we are on a LAN.. that does not just mean to sit in one room BUT next to each other! i know that u didnt place those tables BUT still that need to be changed the next time.. dont even understand why u didnt change the places of the tables after u saw that?! u got enough room!
GUYS, it was your first lan and i can tell u that u did it rly good and enjoyable! u made it better than some crossfirelans where more than 4 admins were ATLEAST behind it. u just need to sort things better out before the event happens next time(pc's, tables, ...). THANK YOU FOR YOUR AWESOME WORK!
I also want to thank all the other people around that lan too. Without you this wouldnt have worked so good and we wouldn't had such an awesome weekend again. (Rayzed,Merlinator,Chillax,v4ux,AND AND AND) !!
Finding decent PCs with a limited budget is not easy. We will have better PCs next time. .
I am not sure what you mean. We treated all teams the same and forced all matches when we had to. Some people complained about this, but in the end everybody respected this decision. As an admin you have to be strict sometimes to avoid more delay.
Changing the tables would not have made much of a difference and was also not possible. Beforehand, we were told there were the same tables they had 3 years ago. The moment we arrived it appeared that the tables were only big enough for 4 PCs each. This was complicated for the 3on3 tournament as you would sit next to an enemy. I don't think this has influenced any match tho.
Changing the tables was not possible because you need electricity and Internet which only come from a certain amount of spots out of the wall. That was also why the tables were positioned like that.
I am happy with your compliment! Much appreciated. See you next year my lovely german
the part about the spots where the internet comes from is hopefulley not an argument which made it impossible for u? :D we are living in 2k15 where cables are long enough to connect pcs ;) use adhesive tape to cover it (like u did also at some points) and there we go :)
TRUST me its a big difference to have all ur mates next to u.. for some teams their mates had to sit at the other side of the room and thats not cool and makes it not lanfeelish
From an admin point of view I think games starting 40 mins late just due to teams being slow is also bad, I did tell you some players take 1.5hours to setup which is pretty unreal :D major esports titles get like 15-30mins to setup for stage games (LoL, Dota2, CSGO etc) an hour should be plenty.
From a spectator point of view ensured map variation would have also been great in playoffs, the groupstage was very enjoyable just because of this. Old CF Map rules @ LANs were good and created really epic & historic moments at LANs. Minimum games in the playoff would be 4 if a team won all their games including first grand final and maximum 7 if team lost first game and won all remaining games including final x2. So a limit of a map picked once would add a lot of spice and normally reduce duration of the later stages of the tournament.
I feel bad for l4mpje now :(
Getting the tables to sit 6 players on em would have been awesome, there wouldnt be time lost for moving the stuff around that much and it would have require only 1 barrier to block vision instead of 4+ we had. Obviously, getting the tables to sit 3 people on em and then just connect em to place 6 people, so we dont have to do any more extra blocking crap if 3's are being played.
The problem with changing time on gamestv was that we only had 2 people doing all the crap and it just wasnt enough. If there were a few guys going around exchanging, for example one guy checking the seatings, one checking time, other setting the gamestv match and everything, one checking when the match has to actually start so theres no major delay and everything, etc.., it would have been good. This wasnt that bad either too however, just the first day because there were the most delays.
I didnt find this that much of a problem, maybe the games were a bit repetative, but some map diversity would have been cool, you could have seen some great tactics the top teams use and such.
All in all, it was a nice lan imo