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6 Apr 2017, 08:26
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Hello friends of the good life,
I'd like to get myself a new gaming PC that I can use for the next 4-5 years. My current PC has had its best time, so it's time to say goodbye.
My budget is around €1000-1200.
If you have any suggestions for complete PC's or complete builds I'd be grateful!
I was also thinking about buying an MSI gaming laptop for €1.400 instead. But I think PC's is better?
I'd like to get myself a new gaming PC that I can use for the next 4-5 years. My current PC has had its best time, so it's time to say goodbye.
My budget is around €1000-1200.
If you have any suggestions for complete PC's or complete builds I'd be grateful!
I was also thinking about buying an MSI gaming laptop for €1.400 instead. But I think PC's is better?
I'd say get one of the new Ryzen CPUs from AMD, they're looking really good bang for the buck. The 1700 looks like it'll fit in your price bracket, and that leaves you enough to get a 1070 graphics card as well. I'll have a look and get back to you
If you want to seriously OC a Z270 board would be better (or switch K for non-K version of the processor). If you're looking for more threads/core AMD Ryzen could also be an option, but as of right now they are lackluster in gaming performance. Personally I would wait until AMD released VEGA, so prices on nvidia cards will drop even more. Also - if buying a core processor - intel is going to release a new processor line + socket in the second half of 2017.
The Ryzen 5 is being released next week as well, which could also be another option for you depending on how the benchmarks look. This in turn could also lower the price of the intel chips if you really want to go with Intel.
The complete Ryzen lineup looks very promising and might be capable of seriously hurting intel (better price to value ratio, more cores = better sustainability) and I do hope that an optimized Ryzen is able to hugely improve gaming performance, especially of near-future AAA releases.
I'm considering to buy a gaming machine since the beginning of the year and ultimately, my biggest hope is that the new intel processors/sockets move towards the ryzen approach and that VEGA is mind-blowingly good so that it either puts a lot of pressure on the pricing of nvidia or it really becomes a viable option to consider (even though just thinking about radeon drivers makes me want to puke).
As for you Timbo, w1Za brought up a good point about the VEGA cards coming soon. I'd wait until then, at the very least nvidia prices might drop so you should hopefully be able to pick up something good then.
And if you are going to pay so much money for a setup, why not invest in a WQHD screen at the same time? At higher resolutions there is no difference. And playing on WQHD or higher is a whole new experience. Don't forget the game engines are not optimized yet for Ryzen, just look on Ashes of Singularity performance increase after Ryzen optimization. It's a whole new platform, unlike most Intel generations of late that are all based on the same Core architecture, and the Core architecture is actually based again on the Pentium 3 and Pentium M Dothan.
Op tweakers elke maand een nieuwe best buy guide in verschillende prijsklasses... ;)
Eventueel een gtx 1070 ipv rx 480 als je budget het toelaat.
Speakers mss ook niet nodig, maar deze build is voor iemand anders die het wel wilde.
En geen hdd erbij gezet, omdat deze meestal toch meegaat van de vorige build. (ssd kan dus ook eruit als je die ook meeneemt)
Het hangt voornamelijk van wat je er mee wilt gaan doen en op welke resolutie.
Anders kan een i7 wel interessant zijn, of een ryzen 1700.
Als je alleen gaat gamen, is i5 prima, er is geen i7 nodig voor alleen gaming. Alleen een aantal games zullen er iets beter door presteren maar kost wel weer veel meer.
Als je niet gaat overklokken heb je sowieso geen k-cpu nodig en niet perse een cpu koeler nodig, maar maakt de build wel stiller en toch wat koeler(/cooler).
PS:
PC > Laptop veruit in prijs/kwaliteit.
Laptop > PC alleen in meeneemgemak, als je veel bij anderen wilt gamen of naar LANs wilt, is dit handig natuurlijk. Maar je krijgt veel minder kwaliteit voor hetzelfde geld als waar je een pc van kan bouwen.
PPS:
Gratis officiële windows 10 van microsoft zelf:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade?tduid=
Groetjes
Otherwise you can spend a bit more for gold and fully modulair and get this one for around 80:
https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/651553/bitfenix-whisper-bwg450m.html
Might be worth the upgrade.
The power supply listed is also good if you look at the Dutch review. The Bitfinex is high quality, but really worth it? I don't think so.
If you want to get an K edition and a Z270 motherboard for overclocking. I would also get faster memory https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/458074/corsair-vengeance-lpx-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15.html
I would not invest in a i5 currently, because I think that AMD Ryzen set a new bar with the 8c/6c proccesor for mainstream. Eventually Intel will have to follow. If you can wait a little bit the AMD Ryzen 1600X will be released soon enough and you will have more cores and more future proof platform, Ryzen will get updates untill 2020. The Skylake/Kabylake socket surely not.
So my advice would be
AMD Ryzen 1600 219 ~230 euro according https://tweakers.net/nieuws/122313/amd-introduceert-ryzen-5-processors.html
Asus Prime B350 100 euro (or another B350 board) https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/735127/asus-prime-b350-plus.html
Some memory(look on QVL of the motherboard)
All other parts from the setup above(but not cpu, memory, motherboard and cooler)
Another reason to choose this platform is the ability to overclock with any processor and the possibility to upgrade to a 8core/16T Ryzen 2/3 in the future.
This list is ultimately simply about 'I want to buy something today', but with Ryzen and Vega, it's well worth waiting just a bit longer indeed.
https://tweakers.net/gallery/519327/wenslijst/?wish_id=1053883
I'm keeping in mind you might want to upgrade the CPU and GPU later, as that would be all that's required if you eventually wanna go for 4k gaming or so.
Your thoughts?
I added the mugen 5 instead of stock/something cheaper because of possible overclocking, which should be easily possible.
(as the person i made the build for wants to upgrade cpu/gpu later on for 4k gaming and wants to overclock)
I just meant the focus is on the gaming part, so most of the money should go into the graphics card. If you can get a higher-end graphics card by saving some money on other departments it should be done. Currently this difference between RX480 or something like the 1070 is too big though.
Hence i took the 480, since 1070 would be overkill, whilst also making sure the build is ready for a 4k compatible card.
https://tweakers.net/gallery/108168/wenslijst/?wish_id=1264065
Currently I have the 4690K 4,5GHz and RX480 8GB on WQHD and it's working good. On WQHD there is no reason for me to upgrade yet, will wait for another 2 years :) I would never buy a graphics card that is 300+ because it's better to buy a new mid range card more often than to play a few years with high-end card.
But we're still not sure what Timbo specifically wants his build for (right?)
What is he gonna do with it and on which resolution, what he wants to do with it later on, etc.
Because a gtx 1070 might be too much for simply 1080p 60hz.
I'd fully go with your build too if the main purpose is gaming with a +- €1100 budget for 1080p 144hz / 1440p 60hz
edit: didn't see ur edit yet. I have the same cpu (e: oh oops i have the 4790k), but with a gtx 970 on a 1080p 144hz screen, don't see a reason to upgrade any time soon either for that. Think I'll just go all out in a few years for the ultimate 4k 144hz gaming! :P
So yes I agree with the 1080p GTX1070 part.
Guess I could continue to use this monitor as 2nd screen then, but I feel like it would be a waste of the money I spent on it and I just never saw the point of that
Plus, I kinda do like 144hz a lot more than 60hz now that I'm used to it ;p
I'd rather wait a bit more, as I'm currently fine with what I've got, and go all out on a new (or upgraded) build for 4k gaming, preferably 144hz hehe..
Do you know if the Ryzen/VEGA will have better performance running together or will it be the same as mixing intel/amd/nvidia?
I'd rather have 1440p 144hz than 4k 60hz.
Hence I am waiting for 144hz 4k screens and graphic cards that can run it :P There are rumors about nvidia's next cards which will outperform this generation by A LOT, but yeah.. rumors..
Don't think the 1070 can run everything 144hz on 1440p steadily either, or maybe at lower settings? Guessing you'd want a 1080 for that, but I'm not too sure.
For Ryzen+Vega, I guess we'll have to wait and see to be honest. No point in speculating about that yet. Personally I'd love it if AMD could really compete with nvidia's high end cards, as their DX12 / Vulkan support should be much better too.
Either way it's worth waiting for Vega, if only to hopefully lower the costs of nvidia's cards.
p.s you still low
windows 7 2009
2 Ghz process
3 GB RAM
80 GB HD
60 hz monitor 24"
deal?
gtx 1080
z170 motherboard
you'll get a long way with this. basically what I have besides the 1080 (got 980) atm.
screen
zowie x benQ 144hz if you have budget left..
cpu cooler, powersupply, casings are own preferences and not that expensive!
GTX 1080 is not possible with his budget.
would do kabylake rather yea and also 1080 might not be possible, 980 is suitable for every game im playing so far.. dont know bout the 1060/70
Cooler: --- up to you
MSI B250M PRO-VD /intel B250, LGA1151/
Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) 2400MHz CL14 Vengeance LPX
HDD: Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 7200rpm 64MB cache SATA
SSD: Samsung/Crucial 128GB
Palit GeForce GTX1070 JetStream 8GB DDR5 256bit (1683/8000)
SilentiumPC Gladius M35 Pure Black
Corsair CX450M 450W or 550W
Microsoft Windows 10 Home BOX 32/64Bit PL USB
or go to Insane way and build Skylake
i7 6700k
Z170 MB
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Best PC in Poland currently, interested? Even WuT streams on it from time to time