Underscore Give the Finger!

Underscore who recently gave RiZe a run for their money in their last Eurocup match were set to rock and roll with a new lineup for the summer, however things took a turn for the worse this evening.

I caught up with Hungary CS4f1 for a word on the clans closing and found out it wasnt the 2 Weeks reason that many of us might have expected, no no. The problem that is plaguing our game to its roots has claimed another victim!

QuoteThe main problem in underscore was the regular one. We have/had guys who could not decide that they wanna play or not. That happened several times in our team, old time ago too. So for example, some days the guy wanna play, and "let's pracc....", on other days "I hate this game, I wanna sleep, I dont care about this....". It's very hard to play if you know that your teammate doesn't care about the game at that moment. I don't wanna tell you names now, i just wanna tell you, that he was one of our Hungarian members. We did not have enough energy to replace that guy, because he was one of our best players, and the only guy who could replace him was Future who is playing WoW nowadays. And we didn't wanna make another recruitment again, because, this was not the only problem.




[center]CS4f1 Had this to say[/center]

QuoteAs you can know, like a month ago polarka decided to be only our 7th player, and some days later srph told us that he will spend his summer in Brazil. He will travel next week :) So we started recruiting, and finally we recruited a aeq and Winghaven. Lot's of guys told us, that "aeq is a clanhopper...", and I don't wanna read comments, like "aeq killed this clan too, where he go that clans is dead...", so I must tell you the truth about this. Aeq is a skilled player, he uses Ventrilo for information, he doesn't whine, and he helps to solve if there is some problem in/around the clan. Besides of this he is a kind person. So, these are just positive things, he just hadn't luck to find a decent lineup yet. I'm sad that we couldn't be that lineup, because we had skilled players I think, and I hope he will find a good, stable team, we were just better with him.

Things turned sour for however after we recently played Agony Realm and felt aggrieved during the match.

About our last war against A+R:

The new A+R squad is just some weeks old, consists some well known, and some not so well known members. Although we had a bad day (it seemed on the praccy before the game too), it was very bizarre to play against them, because after checking their lineup, we had to say : lot's of guys think that their member list consist min. 4 cheaters (no proofs, this is just the common opinion). The last journal about this was about mAus, but the journal was deleted in some minutes, I had luck, that I could read it and download the movie, so I knew before the game what to watch. That movie was done by silenT, you can download it from here, it will be a good example for our situation too: http://underscore.gamerer.com/upload/maus.wmv
The wmv tried to show that there is something wrong with the guys aim. I went over about this situation: how could you prove if somebody using a well tuned aimbot. There is no other way than make a slow motion movie about his crosshairs moving, I really don't have any other good idea. Lot's of guys said, that they saw him on a LAN event, and he played very well, but that was on the LAN, and now we are talking about online gaming and about this game. So, you need to watch this and I hope you will tell us what you think about his aiming. I know that we don't have enough proof, but/because we could not have against somebody who is using a well tuned aimbot. This situation helped us to decide: continue and recruit, or quit.

So I really don't wanna tell about this more. Just watch the demo of mAus, maybe it could help you to have 50% accuracy too with 272% efficiency (30 kills, 11 deaths) against an EC team.
Here is the statistic of the game: http://underscore.gamerer.com/upload/2006-06-18-__vs_A+RSENNHEISER-adlernest-radar.html
I'll not tell you news if I say lot's of guys think/though that zeto or lioco is a cheater (like aza, fost, mize, butchji, etc...too), because they played so well in their previous clans. So what about this guy than, who killed more than zeto+lioco overall, with 50% acc (and you could look at damage given too.)?
Download demo: http://underscore.gamerer.com/upload/arvsunderscore.rar

I'm playing this game for almost 3 years, and I saw several games on ETTV, but I don't remember for any guy shooting so well like himself. You could compare him only to guys, like mystic (could not do 50% acc too with this stats...), teKoa, feruS and the others.

And of course we'll never know the truth 100% sure, because this game is done.
But some facts:

- Mystic played RTCW before playing ET, and he played ET for 3 years, ONLY in EC clans, he is a talent, and could get experience during this time. Finally he could mark out from his teams with great statistics, but I don't think he ever had 50% acc against another high-skilled team.
- mAus started his gaming career with ET, playing more than 2 years, his high-skill clans were Kreaturen (for 2 weeks, than he was kicked), and Stazi.

How did he get this experience than? Why we never heard about him (playing in EC clan)?
He never played in EC, and making 50% acc is hard on a public too with this stats, not on a clanwar against a high-skill team.

So, welcome the best player on the earth, maybe the next one will have 60% acc, and only lowskill clan history!

The other - and some of us (for example phobeus and me) the main - problem is, that this game is moving on a very bad way. There were several cheater reports, news, journals and forum threads on the biggest community site, and you could read all the comments too. Now you can know that (maybe not just) in this game it's possible to remove hadware ban, faking punkbuster screenshots, regenerating ETPro guids, setting up a well tuned aimbot for example with constant 40% accuracy, and 1.5 hs/kills, wallhacking... and this is just a short list, you need just pay some money for a private hax to the coders. I like playing on public a lot, and it isn't hard to find cheaters there too in 10 minutes. Players with ETPRO guids like "I OWN ALL OF YOU" etc... And reading cheater reports day by day, so I have a really good question: What will be with this game, if it will not have a good anti-hacking system soon?

I tell you my opinion. You cannot prove that somebody is cheating or not. And here is the first situation: torpso's one! Maybe the most comments for the newspost, 12000+ hits...and half of people say that he is a cheater, half of them he isn't. Everybody has an opinion. Maybe he is a cheater, maybe not, you will never know the truth 100% sure, only he knows it, the game finished yet, and if he haxed, it could happen that he will not hax anymore. And if he is a cheater, we don't have enough proof against him, so he will continue playing in one of the most skilled ET clan in the earth.

I just read the comments of the community in the cheater reports, so I think it's possible to send fake pb screenshots, and if not possible, than it will be possible. But if it's possible, than you can use your wallhack freely thats sure.
And what about aimbot? What is if somebody has 80 kills and 300 hs in a clanwar, and pb does not kick him? As I read it's invisible on the pb screenshot too, so you dont need fake pb screenshot if you use that. So, you need pb screenshot in that situation? And it's possible to set accuracy too, so for example 80% acc, 0 hs/kill.

So matters are at such a point that nowadays if we find a good, but unknown player in a good clan, than we could not know he is cheater or not. And this is bad, cheaters always played, but not so many like now. We are the first clan dieing in some degree because of this, and I hope this problem could be solved somehow, else cheaters will kill this game. And I think most of us - who like this game - know this, only cheaters don't care about it.

As a clan we'd like to say thanks to those we played with and Shoutouts to all of my friends and teammates, to all who made something for this game, especially for TosspoT!
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