Blame the individual or the whole team?

personally I think, all games allu played in should be forfeited but ireland stay in the cup

also, I think the team shouldn't be punished generally only the offending individual should

Well, in the same time whole team probably knows that their player is actually cheating.

have a comment, fusen :P

matches he played in forfeit loss and ban for lifetime

I don't agree on Valkir. When playing you don't spec much, if your pr0 at least.

But I think we must not lower the border for cheating. If it only affects the player who uses it, he might use it quicker because he knows he will only get himself removed. If he dares to risk the existance of the whole team like now, he should be more ashamed.

Forfeit loss for the matches and lifetime ban for the retard. this is pretty harsh for team ireland though.

In case of a NC match is kinda hard to blame the team, as NC is more of a mix then anything else. Let ireland replay the matches it didnt lose and ban Allu for a lifetime.

Ban for player, forfeit loss in the matches he played. imo

forfeit loss from the games he played, but not dropping out of cup..

but team shouldn't be punished if the hax isn't detectable when speccing the one

Remove the team - it's too general.

"Ignorance aint an excuse"

Giving the team forfeit losses for all the games that they played is like removing them from the cup.

Imo its good that they removed the the whole team. Maybe they didnt know about him but he was part of that team and it was giving an advantage to the whole team not just himself.

I think its better that whole team is punnished.
Because after this every team will be more careful and they will tell adming if they have player who cheats. That will make harder for cheaters to cheat.

lifetime ban for allu cause it was in a NC match

u still are responsible for your players and u have to know the people in your team alltho its difficult to notice that if they cheat so atleast forfait matches Ireland and imo remove from cup alltho it doesnt matter that much cause they wont proceed; so imo who cares if they play last 2 matches :)

I didn't saw allu playing but if it was so obvious that he was cheating , why didn't his teammates saw it before in pracs etc that he is a cheater :s

u cant know if the players knew about him...

so none of allu's teammates noticed something is wierd about him? c'mon aimbot isn't that hard to notice... i am pretty sure at least some ppl in team ireland noticed, but most likely didn't say anything... this is why the whole team deserves to be kicked out of the cup.

on other hand if they had noticed and they had kicked him out themselves and if they had contacted CB with information on their teammate, then i if was clanbase i would consider strongly to punish only the infringement of the individual.. and keep the team in the cup.. but this was not the case here.

Although I voted that the team shouldn't get punished so harshly, I still think CB made a good decision in the Allu case. I rather want sever punishment than no. ;)

The team should only be held responsible if their busted teammate actually cheated before and the team could have noticed it beforehand. In the Allu case, they couldn't have known as he didn't use it while playing with them before. Same goes for the razz case tbh.

If the clan had known about the cheater, then lifetime ban for every player in the clan, if not only individual should get punished.

The team should be punished as well, but forfeit losses should suffice. If the team is not punished at all, clans might not hesitate accepting cheaters in their team.
But in this case, NC teams are rather like a mixed team, so the punishment shouldn't be that harsh.

allu is disgrace hes made his team look like fools, ban for life imo and a left jab for tryin to be a hero

ban retard permanently, and forfeit all team matches where retard played

he was so blatantly hacking that the irish team should have kicked him and replaced him during the match or play it 5v6
they didnt and played with a cheater knowing he was hacking
so they supported him hacking in some way
i agree with cb decision regarding the team but would have banned allu for lifetime

only ban the player imo

it is like football, if you do something wrong the team has to blame. Gaming is like sports so !

The clan is responsible for its members, so its the same for nationscup teams i guess.

it wasnt so hard to bust allu for using an aimbot at ettv
was it too difficult to see by other team members during normal games ?

the clan should take responsibility now but not so harsh like the one who was cheating.

imo just the person who haxx..

LOL @ allu

the more the merrier, let s blame not only the clan but also their friends and family and lets BAN all the players from the same country as the cheater, if they are from the same nation THEY HAD SOME RESPONSABILITY !!!!!

lol how some1 can be so ''perfidny" and play with aimbot in national team. Im shocked :O

allu =D

it might be unfair if you punish the whole team for having a cheater, but its even more unfair to the team that lost to the cheater. So forfeit for the cheaterteam, but they can play on.

Everyone should be punished for that!

I was shocked to read the news of the Irish team and a player cheating, I didn't see the match nor have i seen any footage of it, but all i can say is he's an assh**e.

Not only did he make a fool of himself, but he made a laughing stock of his team mates for doing it.

The Irish soccer fans are well known for party'ing before,during and after a match no mater win, lose or draw, but no party would have been held for this kind of behaviour.

I will agree if the team realised during the match he was cheating then they should have kicked him, no matter what time it was into the game, even it was only noticed in the last minute, at least it would have shown they realised it.

btw hi Etnies long time since we chatted, was sorry to hear the news bud.

Well, I think you can't say what to do, you must know the awnser on the question: 'Did the rest of the team knew he was hacking?' It is hard to know anwser but if they knew, the whole team needs to be punished, if they didn't then only the hacking player should be punished.

imo a team has to win, loose and even punished as one... its a team game and the community have to learn that. if the leader choose a player, not only the first impression and skill should matter... no cheaters, no 2week squads... lets talk about teamspirit!