GamesTV.org (over?)coverage
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16 Apr 2010, 12:33
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With the new fully automated system we're able to cast a vast amount of matches at the same time (considering only Enemy Territory currently this limit would be 50 matches at the same time with a total of over 9000 viewer slots while over 100 matches could be watched on demand).
The question has become: Is it wise to push towards these limits allowing everyone to request his matches regardless of the communities interest (we've had some matches with less than 10, sometimes just 1 viewer). This results in a very clogged schedule which makes it hard to find the interesting stuff even though we try to highlight the more interesting stuff.
We could reject the least interesting matches altogether robbing the requestees of the possibility to watch their match on demand later.
We could implement means to customize the schedule so everybody can hide the uncare matches.
This should not be only a poll but also a discussion about what steps to take to encounter this problem - what do you think?
The question has become: Is it wise to push towards these limits allowing everyone to request his matches regardless of the communities interest (we've had some matches with less than 10, sometimes just 1 viewer). This results in a very clogged schedule which makes it hard to find the interesting stuff even though we try to highlight the more interesting stuff.
We could reject the least interesting matches altogether robbing the requestees of the possibility to watch their match on demand later.
We could implement means to customize the schedule so everybody can hide the uncare matches.
This should not be only a poll but also a discussion about what steps to take to encounter this problem - what do you think?
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25.2 %
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If it is about lucidity we could have a default view that does not include all matches? But generally I think the more the better :)
No ETTV, No PB, No nothing!
Keep it as it is I would say or maybe a mild moderation to hide the 'boring' games
but thats my opinion
Cba to watch some 6 month newschoolers games etc. They are spämming the schedule and you cant find any good games. Playing ETTV used to mean something, now it's just bulshit
now its just bullshit
The random 3v3 cup ettv matches however are just too random and mostly just announced 5 or10 minutes before the actual match starts, so gtfo with those ones.
im a 100% with you
Though for this ud need an even more advanced rating system, or admins that will check upon every game.
HIDE every game with 1 star in the little box to the right. Only show those matches in the Calendar.
I seriously don't give a shit about ANY of these random 3v3-shit or baserace-shit, yet it's polluting my GTV! HIDE FFS.
although i also liked a bit more when, back then, playing on ettv actually meant something
still, ettv is good against cheaters...so lower leagues also need it.
Hide option is the best i guess then
There's nothing wrong with the amount of matches.
Though I'm actually quite grateful for every noob to able to get ettv. Has given me and my noobclan a lot of attention lately, also given opportunity for our friends/fanboys to come watch us getting pwned. Even though the numbers aren't above 20 with viewer peak ever, it's still better than sending demos to 20 people.
I guess I like how it is now. Get sponsors.
people would just enter "final" every time
too much work checking every match on cb/esl/random 1day cup pages
All we need is a premier section, where the top matches are grouped together and can't get pushed down by low matches that nobody cares about. I put something together in paint:
You could automatically put matches of a certain league in there (EC & EMS) or manually add them (or let match creators request their match to be featured in the premier section). Either way, this system should've been in gtv.org for years, always wondered why it wasn't.
because its needed
nor should it ever be used for that purpose.
Set up a smaller server first for the less interesting matches, like 15 slots or something, to save slots instead of setting up a 100 slot server in which 90% wouldn't be used.
Another server is added in case the 15 slot server runs full ofc.
But don't reject matches.
e: OK I GOT IT :o
But actually, ETTV helps keep ET alive, no matter if these matches are low or not. More means better. Betting and watching matches live are things, that helps keep ET alive.
On the other hand, I understand, that there would be fine some kind of "filter". Would be fine if it could be filtered by format/league(good/random)/ranking, where ranking would be made by ppl rating matches or gtv crew.
Your biggest priority should be redeveloping the massive waste that ruins the centre of your page & remove the news section. 'n steal the hot demos from hltv
the other options are facist bullcrap
but i think There's nothing wrong with the amount of matches...
but i like Krosans & green clown´s comment 2 :)
Sometimes there are only 1-10 peole who watched it cause the gtv admins take the request 1 min before the game is played :S"
Thats because a lot of people add their match 1 minutes before the game is starting while they have a few hours, maybe days to do it. You cant expect us to be avi 24/7 to accept everything within a minute.
btw u have alot of inactive admins why u dont give a few admin rights to very active people which request very often ?
but i think u have knowlege from beeing a baby :)
Just put some kind of global-rating on a match (EC = 5, low-- matches are 0) and allow user-based filtering on rating.
(You can even make it so that the community votes for the rating...)
a) show boring matches: that 5 ppl can be happy.
b) hide boring matches: Wait, we will never see bozar play on ettv ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luYzo30NfGI&feature=related
You like this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSlmtD7uMQg&fmt=18
what does that mean?
my explanation or the options o.O ?
with these options u can set that every 0star game is hidden, or that all 3 star games are on the top of the lists, etc.
2 stars
its just a qualifier
vae vs impact
1 star
:)
EC
EMS
NC
Some Crossfire Hosted Competitions
OC Premier and 2nd/3rd league max
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Uninteresting Matches
- 1 day cups by polaks
- 1 day cups by busted cheaters
- 1 day cups by dooppi
- 1 day cups by fedguli
All those that are not cb/esl related + nonames.
Keep ettv for these uninteresting matches cos we dont have pb, and ettv is the only inefficient "method" to bust cheaters
":D"
for a few years already the schedule has been flooded so much with all those worthless oneday-cup / random ladder games that it's hard to spot the decent games you might want to see out of there
not saying that you should drop those games out of gtv though as I'm sure it is important for many people to have ETTV in their games even if they have just a few friends watching it. just keep them separate from quality games, please
http://www.gamestv.org/forum/1-ideas/401-filtering-games/page-1/#post3917
2) Every user gets a mask where he can enter options that decide whether he considers matches care or uncare
Try to globally hide boring stuff and only display it on request. most definitely
checkbox
ESL EMS[x]
EC [x]
OC [ ]
Crossfirelan [x]
If none of those apply force matches to tag their broadcast with ''Onedaycup''
and that also gets a scheckbox Onedaycup [ ]
add this into each user control menu and your done!
From your point of view, I really don't know if that causes extra troubles for you.
<3
Anyways, eventhough I usually don't watch those random games, I think its fun for the friends of those teams to watch ETTV or for the teams to watch the replay together.
Keep up the good work :)
can click the 'see all games' to well.. see all games :p
before:
after:
If you have to cut then i think the matches you can cut are normal ladder matches, cause the important matches are always cup battles OC, EC, NC & EMS and the LAN battles cause they are more crutial for every team.
Edit: If the pending poll is based on money related issue then i would cut off the normal ladder matches and focus your strenght on coverage for every Cup match (OC, EC NC & EMS) and Lan match.
;)
there is nothing wrong with gtv.
voted for random dung.
[1 STAR ] click -> League -> Clanbase -> Games
[2 STARS ] click -> League -> Clanbase -> Games
[2 STARS ] click -> League -> Clanbase -> Games
would make the life easy for every1 :)
It isn't that hard to check the entire schedule and look for the best matches... And nowadays with this rating system some matches appear in Bold so I think it makes it easy to find them.
Another different thing is the way the entire schedule is presented. I think you could really include the competition's name somewhere and a filter or something like that to show/hide the competitions we want or not.
Bye.
additionally you can "subscribe" to certain teams, leagues or just single matches which will highlight them in the schedule.
now it's shit