I am astonished about the current recruitment of a clanbase supervisor.
The problem handles two issues. First I will dispute myself about the way those persons were recruited, second i will argue the fact how disorderly this happened.
For those who don't know it yet there was a "Clanbase ladder supervisor" application held by Clanbase.com. People had to fill in a form (when they wanted to apply) in which they gave a small background of themselves, and in which they had to tell why they are the best candidate for the job. I myself was one of those who gave it a shot. And luckily for me i got selected into a tight group of 6 people which received an interview to make some closer contact. I myself was really happy that i was picked out of a large group, but still i realised i had hard fellow candidates.
I knew most of these candidates: Bartichello, Koe, Rhand, Splodge, Skeiz and of course myself. Shortly after my interview (well 10 days after my interview eventhough it would only take 5 days as i was told), i got to see Rhand having the clanbase tag on clanbase.et, and him being opped. I was totally startled, and i quickly checked my emails if i didn't receive something aswell, just a message why i was/wasn't picked would be nice. But nowhere in my mailbox i could even find a post related to clanbase. Oke but that's not enough to cause a frustration, it's just a minor point which isn't nice to remark. You apply to become a ladder supervisor, you put your time and effort in doing interviews with them, in writing good comments about yourself in the best english you got, you are a referee for their matches and what you get: not even an email stating you aren't picked. But no big deal, i could come up with some points in favor of clanbase in this issue.
But the next issue really overcomes me. You will probably call this jealousy, and that i don't grant them their appointment, and yes you are right for 50%, i do envy them for being picked. But what i don't understand, and i really completely don't understand it is why Rhand and Splogde are picked and not 1 other candidate. Because maybe these two guys are good guys, good in what they do, but clanbase is forgetting one major point: long based acitvity. But i've got to explain this matter to most of you i guess so let's start with splodge.
Splodge is probably chosen because of his shoutcaster career, which could link clanbase closer to the gamersworld, and which could provide more coverage. But is that a reason to make someone directly a supervisor of a ladder? Because i have nearly seen many ladder games being shoutcasted (oke maybe that's the reason) but nor have i seen him ever ref a match for clanbase. Maybe his english skills are right, which i don't even consider to have my doubts on, but he totally has no experience with the clanbase happening in which i mean the reffing of matches and the rules that apply to it. But oke, i understand that the link between shoutcasting and clanbase ladder games could have been decisive. That is why i wish him many luck with his appointment, and i hope he does a hell of a job!
But then i have to come to another case named Rhand.
I think as good as everybody know Rhand. But i don' t think he is famous, i'm even going to go a step further: he's notorious, and not famous at all. In every post i read on crossfire stated by him, i can see flame, i can see whine, i can see argues, i can see him fucking up someone. Is this a guy that has to represent clanbase? Is this a guy qualified for the job. = > Let me state it right: as a clanbase admin you have to be able to help people with random ladder issues (certainly when you are a ladder sup), or problems, or even conflicts. So you have to stay cool in difficult situations. You think a person who flames at everyone who even looks in his direction is qualified to stay cool in hard situations and is able to solve a problem properly and without any flame from his side: sorry but i am lolling on this one. They have picked one of ET's most hated persons to become a helping hand in the community: riiittee..
But if that would be the only problem i have then i would be another random fucktard which has no clue of what happens in ET scene. That is why there pops up another matter. In my opinion Rhand has been picked out because of his uberacitvity, which i can't deliver myself, well not in his proportions. Especially in these last 2-3 weeks he showed himself a real wonder on earth because he adminned as good as 70% of all EC matches this season (No real numbers of course). He was there every time he was needed. But didn't i hear something via irc loggs? Ow guess what i did: Rhand states that he will probably be much less active within 2 months because of him going to school again. Now let me think: wasnt there a question in clanbase interview which stated: "Are you having any future plans which will gain much of your (spare) time? Didn't rhand tell that going to university takes a whole damm a lot of his activness, which he had in this EC season. I guess his acitvity is to be given to the fact that a lot of EC cup admins are having exams, or have to go to work, and that they don't have the time to write as much reports as he does.
And yet another matter: Rhand is uberactive: do you think that will work out for ever? He has only participating in ET reffing scene for 2 seasons. Especially current season he showed his uberactiveness. But aren't we forgetting old fellows here? Who are in the buisiness for more than 4 years now? I'm afraid we are: and again i'm not stating myself (you'll now see i wasn't indeed the best candidate). I'm talking about Bartichello, an old bitch who has been doing great wonderful, extreme good jobs over the time. And he still is, but his last 3 weeks were filled by doing hard stuff. Weren't this last 3 weeks the applications held by clanbase? I'm afraid they were. And in these EC season he wasn't able to proove himself as uberactive as Rhand. But he does has proven to be active on time base of 4 years. As far as i can count properly 4 years activeness and being one of ET's best writers weighs much more than 2 years activeness, 1000% flame, and medium skilled matchreports. Because i know those matchreports have a decisive weight i think this is random bullshit.
I'm sorry clanbase, but i've supported you in every flame article which was pointed to you, i agreed every time blindless with your ideas, but now you've even lost my faith in you. Furthernow i'm doubting very badly if i want to continue on reffing for this orginisation, and i know others are doing the same as I. And who will then be writing all those matchreports? Rhand? Ow yes, surely when he is making his university exams...
The problem handles two issues. First I will dispute myself about the way those persons were recruited, second i will argue the fact how disorderly this happened.
For those who don't know it yet there was a "Clanbase ladder supervisor" application held by Clanbase.com. People had to fill in a form (when they wanted to apply) in which they gave a small background of themselves, and in which they had to tell why they are the best candidate for the job. I myself was one of those who gave it a shot. And luckily for me i got selected into a tight group of 6 people which received an interview to make some closer contact. I myself was really happy that i was picked out of a large group, but still i realised i had hard fellow candidates.
I knew most of these candidates: Bartichello, Koe, Rhand, Splodge, Skeiz and of course myself. Shortly after my interview (well 10 days after my interview eventhough it would only take 5 days as i was told), i got to see Rhand having the clanbase tag on clanbase.et, and him being opped. I was totally startled, and i quickly checked my emails if i didn't receive something aswell, just a message why i was/wasn't picked would be nice. But nowhere in my mailbox i could even find a post related to clanbase. Oke but that's not enough to cause a frustration, it's just a minor point which isn't nice to remark. You apply to become a ladder supervisor, you put your time and effort in doing interviews with them, in writing good comments about yourself in the best english you got, you are a referee for their matches and what you get: not even an email stating you aren't picked. But no big deal, i could come up with some points in favor of clanbase in this issue.
But the next issue really overcomes me. You will probably call this jealousy, and that i don't grant them their appointment, and yes you are right for 50%, i do envy them for being picked. But what i don't understand, and i really completely don't understand it is why Rhand and Splogde are picked and not 1 other candidate. Because maybe these two guys are good guys, good in what they do, but clanbase is forgetting one major point: long based acitvity. But i've got to explain this matter to most of you i guess so let's start with splodge.
Splodge is probably chosen because of his shoutcaster career, which could link clanbase closer to the gamersworld, and which could provide more coverage. But is that a reason to make someone directly a supervisor of a ladder? Because i have nearly seen many ladder games being shoutcasted (oke maybe that's the reason) but nor have i seen him ever ref a match for clanbase. Maybe his english skills are right, which i don't even consider to have my doubts on, but he totally has no experience with the clanbase happening in which i mean the reffing of matches and the rules that apply to it. But oke, i understand that the link between shoutcasting and clanbase ladder games could have been decisive. That is why i wish him many luck with his appointment, and i hope he does a hell of a job!
But then i have to come to another case named Rhand.
I think as good as everybody know Rhand. But i don' t think he is famous, i'm even going to go a step further: he's notorious, and not famous at all. In every post i read on crossfire stated by him, i can see flame, i can see whine, i can see argues, i can see him fucking up someone. Is this a guy that has to represent clanbase? Is this a guy qualified for the job. = > Let me state it right: as a clanbase admin you have to be able to help people with random ladder issues (certainly when you are a ladder sup), or problems, or even conflicts. So you have to stay cool in difficult situations. You think a person who flames at everyone who even looks in his direction is qualified to stay cool in hard situations and is able to solve a problem properly and without any flame from his side: sorry but i am lolling on this one. They have picked one of ET's most hated persons to become a helping hand in the community: riiittee..
But if that would be the only problem i have then i would be another random fucktard which has no clue of what happens in ET scene. That is why there pops up another matter. In my opinion Rhand has been picked out because of his uberacitvity, which i can't deliver myself, well not in his proportions. Especially in these last 2-3 weeks he showed himself a real wonder on earth because he adminned as good as 70% of all EC matches this season (No real numbers of course). He was there every time he was needed. But didn't i hear something via irc loggs? Ow guess what i did: Rhand states that he will probably be much less active within 2 months because of him going to school again. Now let me think: wasnt there a question in clanbase interview which stated: "Are you having any future plans which will gain much of your (spare) time? Didn't rhand tell that going to university takes a whole damm a lot of his activness, which he had in this EC season. I guess his acitvity is to be given to the fact that a lot of EC cup admins are having exams, or have to go to work, and that they don't have the time to write as much reports as he does.
And yet another matter: Rhand is uberactive: do you think that will work out for ever? He has only participating in ET reffing scene for 2 seasons. Especially current season he showed his uberactiveness. But aren't we forgetting old fellows here? Who are in the buisiness for more than 4 years now? I'm afraid we are: and again i'm not stating myself (you'll now see i wasn't indeed the best candidate). I'm talking about Bartichello, an old bitch who has been doing great wonderful, extreme good jobs over the time. And he still is, but his last 3 weeks were filled by doing hard stuff. Weren't this last 3 weeks the applications held by clanbase? I'm afraid they were. And in these EC season he wasn't able to proove himself as uberactive as Rhand. But he does has proven to be active on time base of 4 years. As far as i can count properly 4 years activeness and being one of ET's best writers weighs much more than 2 years activeness, 1000% flame, and medium skilled matchreports. Because i know those matchreports have a decisive weight i think this is random bullshit.
I'm sorry clanbase, but i've supported you in every flame article which was pointed to you, i agreed every time blindless with your ideas, but now you've even lost my faith in you. Furthernow i'm doubting very badly if i want to continue on reffing for this orginisation, and i know others are doing the same as I. And who will then be writing all those matchreports? Rhand? Ow yes, surely when he is making his university exams...
I've always found CB decisions odd. Especially during my Call of Duty days, CB was extremely bad at handling that game.
I think you have a perfectly valid point and it would be nice to see what CB has to say about the issue as they are effectively putting the community into these admin's hands. They should publish the reasons certain people were chosen and then justify them.
agree on rhand
i dont really know this rhand.
so you blame him for flaming but you spend 2 hours ( no real numbers of course) flaming at him?
according to you, everyone is not qualified apart from you.
dont really get it why you are writing this.
Nothing new...
However, as an admin let me state that this column is at the boundary of acceptable in terms of personal attacks. So play nice!
i admit, the last part is a bit too harsh, but you'll get the point
The thing that annoys me the most is that CB, although claiming we would hear from them very soon, didn't send out e-mails to the applicants until the jobs were already taken and the info was public.
You just don't ignore peoples application and send them a mail afterwards with the wonderful reason: "In most cases applications are declined because of lack of experience."
If I didn't know it was just a random standard automated answer, it would give me the impression they didn't even read my application.
GL Splodge & Rhand.
P.S.: I am your unknown other person.
As for Rhand, I've played in the same clan as him, so I think I know him a bit better than you. I also noticed (which I think you didn't want to) that most "flame and whine" Rhand states is merely a reply to another person, who usually was saying something bad about him. Okay, in time you've gotta learn to handle it, and he might be a bit short-tempered from time to time, but seriously, he's just a fucking human, right? I mean, you were apparently really pissed too, it's easily noticeable in (only) your entire column. You also seem to dislike Rhand. Splodge is a shoutcaster, but CB wanted admins, so him being shoutcaster shouldn't have been such a big deal.
However, I can't help but notice that your whine on Rhand is no more than 4(!) times longer than your whine on Splodge. So obviously you don't like him, and apparently the community thinks the same way. Oh wait. Let me think... Riiiight, this is the same community who flames on and whines about almost EVERYTHING. So it's easy to be the voice of the community, just whine.
But I'm getting further away from the main subject: Rhand. Or rather, your whine on him. Or even more specifically, your whine about not getting chosen. Your last paragraph sums it all up: you liked CB, they didn't like you enough to choose you, you don't like CB. And to support that dislike, you decide to take down your fellow candidates, picking the biggest target to whine on.
In all honesty, pathetic. Learn to lose. You don't know Rhand, all you know is his online reputation. Which happens to be bad. Shit happens, kid, live with it.
Damn this was a long reply, looking at it, I can't believe I disliked you or your style so much ;-)
However I believe he won't change his attitude at all, and only become more arrogant because of his powers. Unless he changes I think clanbase is much better off with picking Bartichello...
I just hope he stops being offensive even if someone attacks him.
To come up with a huge cliché: with great power comes g... you know the drill. If someone attacks you you can either be hardcore and tough and say something cynical and offensive back, or be mature and reply in a mature way, distancing yourself and thereby avoiding further bullshit. Same goes for any other comment where you don't have to "defend" yourself.
(just pointing somehting out - personally im out of case :P)
But i belive the reason for whining against Rhand 3 times more then against Splodge, is because he probably felt splodge was a better option then rhand if he had to decide on which one of those he wanted as admin, and since Rhand was the guy he felt was the worst option, rhand gets the most flame.
But i do agree that it is kinda important that admins on a higher level shouldnt jump into every flamewar on crossfire, which maybe ( i dunno..) rhand has earlier..
but i bet rhand will chill in the future when it comes to flamewars.
Sounds like he will be a perfect fit for CB!
Splodge has worked for Gamersnation and Warleagues. Rhand has worked for CB for a very long time, is active and knows the "system" and the community. You don't have to be well liked to be good at your job (looks at Donex!).
You come across very bitter, and I'll ignore the fact that you made a new account solely to write this whine fest, but that's how it appears. I don't think either of them are particularly great admins, but then again. CB doesn't need great admins either, since in most peoples eyes, whatever they do. They can't match kajab/lake etc.
I told them I was going back to university in 3 months to study once again. But, as my experience has shown me, I'll still have plenty of time to do what's necessairy. I'm not at university at 20.00-23.00 when all the action is happening. I'm at home every day around 18 CET, sometimes perhaps 19 CET. That's practically the same as people having a job and working for Clanbase (Donex, Bulldog) and they don't have any problems to do what's necessairy so I don't see why you think I will have them.
Secondly, as I've been admin for 3 seasons (where I was "uberactive" in 2 of them) I doubt there are people who will say I flamed them during my carreer, that I've been treating them bad or that I've been partial. I have always followed the rules, or let the teams decide if they both wanted to do something different then the rules say.
In this 1,5 year I have only lost my temper once and that was in a match between v&e and Impact this season. I replied a bit harsh on Fireball after he was taunting me, and I had quite a discussion with Sheep afterwards on IRC but I believe that I can stay cool when it's necessairy.
There's a difference between CB and CF you know. On CB I have had responsibility and I know what that means, and I have acted accordingly every time I had to admin. On CF on the other hand, I've never had a possition with some kind of responsibility so I do whatever I like. Please bear in mind that I've been at home for some 7 months bored as hell so I had to find a way of keeping me busy. Being uberactive on CF was something to keep me busy. I didn't flame and whine at everything, as you say, although you shan't hear me deny I could be irritating once in a while.
And the one saying I can't handle criticism, I wonder why you say that? I barely had criticism for my CB-carreer and when it was justified (imo) I took note of it and tried to change it.
Anyways, I see you're bitter, very bitter so I shall just think you don't mean those nasty things you said about me.
Btw, why don't you have the balls to post it with your old/known account?
You need to discover the good stuff at university ;). Or maybe get a "kot" :)?
And ofcourse i want to thank the community for supporting me and giving me their trust. And finaly there is foonr, who was my guiding light through these trouble days and who kept supporting me eventhough ppl kept saying that i couldnt come up with a joke worthy of an admin position!
Foonr, this one is for you!
plus you're using my hand-made pink floyd flag! instabuddy
but: Member For: 0 days
you really needed to tell your story didnt you? :)
and to clanbase it's nothing new that u have to be a belgish/dutch/uk+friends guy who will get a supervisor place ;) or u have to be female and u know one of the current supervisors :>>
so suomi try it @esl (they are the better league anyway so don't waste your time in CB ;>)
and u should go buy some siliconboobs=)
edit: Not to be mistaken, that was refered to you as a female.
as a guy ur just another loverbunny=) so no worrys there mate!=)
YOU THINK CB WANTS PIRATEWHORES?
last time clanbase had these applications, he was nearly picked, applied so he was definitely the right choice..
rhand im not so sure
Either be a man and take it like a man, "face to face", or dont.. dont go hiding behind a mask..
Agree with Splodge being an Admin. Disagree with Rhand, His attitude in posts on Xfire are constructive + arent nice. Time will tell I guess.
Then again I remember Rooey being a CB RTCW admin, He done ok as an admin, But I didnt like his attitude either
I don't see why people always start this kind of accusations. In my days, when I made it to the CB ET Supervisors crew I had done less and was less known then the two who entered this time.
I don't like to see big talkers having top positions in organizations like ClanBase, but Rhand is probably more experienced then you and probably has closer relationship with the guys who are now part of the CB crew.
When in real life you're not accepted for a job position you don't go and whine in the newspapers. Go on with you life, if you or others deserve that spot more opportunities will come in the future. BTW, CB Ladder Supervision is very very boring...
It has been suggested to just do our own leagues/cups on ezbash/crossfire or whatnot, but it never gets done.
Well done Suomi
And why do you think that? :P
I can't remember adminning a match of you... Sure you're not mistaking me with Rhade or someone else? :o)
i believe it was the final of a 1day-cup and before we even started meez or nevari kept saying he didnt want you as admin, might have been vs insecure or whatever they were called
I had my own conflicts with Rhand during a Official in the early days we came patched..
He was flaming whining insulting and such crap in a official.. So what u said Rhand that u follow the rules is bullshit for you.
Flame my english plz <3
You shouldn't be so hypocrite, you know.
Btw, in the early days? The only time I played you was 3 months agao (KKC - Rhenium for Benelux-Cup III).
While u used a wildcard like 3 days before (or less\more) we never whined against u about that.. when i said .. were maybe gonna use wildcard.. i was suddenly a fucking nub.. Afraid.. lowskill
and about the swedish one..
Did u even had a idea what he told my member in swedish i suppose u dont know it.. he said to him.. Why the fuck u play with trash.. ur way to good for them... DOH i go insult back in swedish i cant help it understand him :)
And seems like you have a problem with the truth sometimes, but everyone has that ocasionally.
Edit: And if i would insult it would be in a language u understand im not a coward to do it in a language u wont understand
btw skeiz they mailed you?
wtf at least they mailed you afterwards to say why... i didn't get anything... koe had to come tell me rhand and splodge were selected... 0 respect imo. making me seriously doubt to quit adminning games(yes doubt. i actualy love doing it)
Or have you done it already ?
Time will tell.
As long as he does his job well I dont care, and I trust rhand and splodge in such things actually.
+ the fact that ET sups only pick the INTERVIEWS and after the interviews the HEAD SUPS (Bleah, killerman etc.) will choose from the interviews and not doneX and co.
That guy has to stfu and cry in bed.
About sploedge dunno.. I wish Bartichello would 've been picked instead of him he gots a huge xp and mature attitude & way to dealing with things.. anyways good luck both dont give up xd
And you don't know Rhand, I'm playing in the same clan as him for around 3 years now. He is just a person who isn't afraid of telling the truth or share his opinion.
I think he is the right person for the job cuz:
1) active (even when he has school)
2) motivated
3) knows the scene (also the lower skilled clans cuz he is playing in KKC for almost 3 years now)
4) His english skills are OK
5) He is a retard like the rest of the CB crew :P
My first point: What I'll say as a past ref and a past cup supervisor for ClanBase that Rhand did bloody good work during the OC and EC that I was around which even at the time qualified him to take a ladder with CB ET. He is certainly more than capable of doing one now. And... most supervisors, be they CB, GGL or ESL, believe it or not (!) have full time jobs and or education priorities; that doesn't knock anyone down from being able to run a cup well or supervise a ladder properly. Yes, the guy has a big mouth and a bit of a short fuse but to be honest; sometimes it's needed.
My second: Splodge has done a godly load of work for ET both on AND off the radio. He's aided cups with ClanBase and has worked on various other leagues that people seem drawn to. Shortly before I last went AWOL, Splodge was at the very top of the list to take luna's place before she decided to stick around. He's well capable, well mannered and fair.
Someone who is capable of devoting time and effort to a community and it's coverage? Most laddersups take on their own cups and you might not see it; but coverage is a very big part of a good cup.
My third point: Who are you? The sheer fact you can take up a column space with the above tripe is amazing. Slagging off what you clearly dont understand from an establishment that has no choice BUT to choose people based on their name and reputation. ClanBase supervisors don't get paid so it isn't like The Apprentice where everyone gets picked off slowly over eight weeks to see who has the strongest character. You go with who you know and what you've seen them do. The factor of "Is this the kind of person who will write an 'FU CB' column if we fire them?" comes into play to. You think people invite TosspoT to LANs just because he has a sweet ass? No they dont, and yes, he does.
This isnt by the way a bitchslap to the other guys that applied to be ladder sups nor is it a view down from my pedestal. I am not singing the "ClanBase is Great" song. I left ClanBase as their chief of news and an ET supervisor because the head admins couldn't tell their arses from their elbows. I stand by doneX as a Game Supervisor and as a man because he's a stand up bloke. A misunderstood gentleman who gave me the advice to shave in the shower because my sensitive skin cuts easily when I shave at the sink... The truth is ClanBase's higher management crew match the US Government. Europeans know this is not a good thing.
Im pointing at the principal that you, as a human being, can do nothing better than attack two people personally rather than sit back like a man and take the fact you just weren't up the the standards required.
Also... respect to Bartichello; a true referee-veteran.
The very fundaments of my world have collapsed!
Well written btw i agree with you :o)
*Edit
"because you have no clue what for complaints and flame i would receive from certain people if i published my name, but i'm sure soon someone will find out"
lol, that says it all really doesn't it!
I agree
Replace rhand by someone else
Btw I dislike Anaconda as well.. he is doing like "i'm tha man who will clear everthing" He feels himself god on earth
Barichello is a good admin i think
you came to our channel start asking about wild card ... i didn't even talk about wild card =D but ok maybe that's a mistake
than u were doing 'cool' : 'And i decide to play the match' (look i made a nice decision didn't i? ) =D
was laughing =D
but ok
U R THA MAN
(and now i will probably be with my clan in the seventh league next open cup :>)
I received a pm from your opponent that you wouldnt be able to play and that you would want to use WC .
I have received that by chatlogs ( possible fake, i know ) So yes, i came to the channel cuz i wanted to know what the hell was going on with the Wildcard stuff.
In the meantime of all this, i had a chat with Zell on msn what we would do with this match and yes, guess what, we both agreed that we would drop the Wildcard bullshit that was going on, and just let the match stay as it was with same time and date etc, so please take your BS elsewhere ...
to be honest, i'm the one laughing with you atm :) but no hard feelings, still <3 from my side :)
got enough <3 from my girlfriend ;)
P.S.: His rifle skills also > *
Rhand has done much for et-scene as well, good admin. but still.. he is the most annoying fucktard that we have in et-scene. but I think he can still grow up.
anyway... I don't get why you want to be clanbase supervisior, you won't get payment and this game is just full of cheaters. just waste of time... well it's good that someone still keeps ET alive.
Just read this, hahaha :DD
If you have a problem, why don't you talk directly with ClanBase HR or the interviewer to review some feedback as to why you didn't get the position rather than slur the recruitment process?
I shop at Sainsbury's nearly everyday, but if I applied for a job there and didn't get it, I wouldn't boycott their stores as a result. The word immature slips to mind.
Oh and yes... I created my account to reply here :]
These thoughts comprise my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of ClanBase or the ClanBase Crew.
Lunachick where are you :( i miss you ;'(