The last (true) RTCW eurocup, season 8 finished with arguably the greatest season it ever had. The final concluded in true dramatic style with MYSOD winning a 3-3 thriller because Kreaturen had to go to bed had a jammed packed season filled with star names and end to end action. Roll the clock forward a few years and you reach this Eurocup season and well, none of the above could be used to describe it.
The grand final of the Eurocup was first on tuesday, then it was on sunday now its on thursday and it just sums up what has been a season that nobody really has cared about. The gandja cheater story sums up how little people cared about this season, a team of med+ players making it to the eurocup final because for some of them they cared a great deal making up for their lack of ability and for others well their ability just wasnt real. Is this how you realy want it all to end?
I'm not saying that ET is over, but you have to empathise with the idea that online competition in the game is dieing a death. This isnt helped by the fact that Clanbase both in ET and as a whole really are losing their grip. Coverage for this season has been dire, the coverage supervisor is Stealth, well as the owner of the biggest coverage site in ET and person who's shoutcasted more matches in ET than anyone else I can safely say I've not got a clue who Stealth is.
Roll back the clock to December and Drago was flying panzer shots that were journal defying in their excitement and you had a Eurocup season that really would have been going out on a high. Regardless of the outcome of MPG vs Impact, its a crying shame that this season ever came to be.
The grand final of the Eurocup was first on tuesday, then it was on sunday now its on thursday and it just sums up what has been a season that nobody really has cared about. The gandja cheater story sums up how little people cared about this season, a team of med+ players making it to the eurocup final because for some of them they cared a great deal making up for their lack of ability and for others well their ability just wasnt real. Is this how you realy want it all to end?
I'm not saying that ET is over, but you have to empathise with the idea that online competition in the game is dieing a death. This isnt helped by the fact that Clanbase both in ET and as a whole really are losing their grip. Coverage for this season has been dire, the coverage supervisor is Stealth, well as the owner of the biggest coverage site in ET and person who's shoutcasted more matches in ET than anyone else I can safely say I've not got a clue who Stealth is.
Roll back the clock to December and Drago was flying panzer shots that were journal defying in their excitement and you had a Eurocup season that really would have been going out on a high. Regardless of the outcome of MPG vs Impact, its a crying shame that this season ever came to be.
I thought we were in for a good season this year, is a pity teams have lost motivation/went inactive :-(
even though i hope so for the sake of et.
some people didnt even know that there was an eurocup going on, that's pretty much a shame to what eurocup once ment to players. the coverage just gives the best example at which state clanbase is, if they dont do some big steps in another direction soon this might be the last year for them.
on the other hand it's impacts fault with not beeing able to get 6 of their players together to play one game of et for an hour. people loose interest and motivation with postponing that game over and over again.
and just btw, there's an 750€ prizefund for the 1st place of this eurocup, which clanbase most definitely will pay out! :-D
$$$$$$$$$$$
same @ ETQW EC btw, EASY MONEY $$$$$$$ ! :D
but it's true i didn't care about this EC, just a fucking joke. Maybe esl can save ET but clanbase is dying/losing grip for sure
Maybe the final will redeem the season, but as amazing as i am i'm not clairvoyant :(
Intact delivering the docs with 0.19 secs to go on beach showed how great that season was.
ok if you were a former amnesia, infensus, kreaturen, ocrana or gmpo player, I wouldnt even bother to reply
but you obviously werent, you were a random back then on rtcw and so was I, you didnt even play in one of the best british clan (4k, r4, old onesoldier, national team etc..)
sry but your comment was just lame
have a good day tho
regards
edit: being a shoutcaster and a crossfire admin made you even more famous and I truly respect that but realize that if you hadnt done those things, you wouldnt have been as "famous" as you are right now
edit:
you win
I lose
happy now?
rofl
And btw on topic, only big dropout was unique.nl and were you even suprised about that ?
then went onto a EC Quarter final, losing 2-1 to mysod who were the eventual winners.
some of those teams you list as being better uk teams though, uC shit on regularly.
(yes, you dont need to check - i played that eurocup aswell and i know pretty much every player of that eurocup.)
nice not responding :-(
When I started playing, RTCW was were ET is now. Some months ago it was easy to get a 6on6 on the way in the early afternoon, now it's almost impossible.
I didn't care about this Eurocup as there are no real teams around anymore and I don't wanna waste my time watching mixes.
So I guess I'll start playing cs:s after the summer.
Cod4 is on a takeover! its not even a good game in wars either :(
then again CSS dosnt really have it either but you still have a chance once you've been hit. all the skillful games have been and gone, only one thing to look forward to now and thats Quake live
KKK and the Krea boys are just random teams formed for one cup only to play some matches against skilled teams, will the Krea team is maybe an other story but they also don't play that serious. Sure both teams are skilled but I prefer less skilled teams in EC who are actualy praccing and willing to show their best. Not just willing to play a random match.
Imho 141 had to play EC, they are a realy skilled team and they are one of the most active teams I think.
+1
So in yoru opinion only 96 players are able to play EC because new teams arent with new names aren't EC worthy? And that only because you don't know the players.
those med+ teams may lose on aim but can win on activity and stability.
those ubermixes aren't praccing while a med+ team would pracc alot to show the community what they are made of.
And imo those mixes should never be allowed in EC, I prefer to see clans playing who stick together for more cups after EC. And not dropping out of the EC because of lack of motivation.
But well we both have a point, those mixes are skilled but those med+ teams can win over these not praccing mixes.
High++ competition might be dead but a new generation is preparing to take over. EC mostly failed cause there were so few games to play imho. OC forces activity on clans with 7-8 offis that have to be played on 6 maps with one usually being new. With 16+ clans in OC premier you also get the garantue there's decent prac meat out there, which teams like MPG and ovr didnt have in their EC Group, they were the only two active ET EC clans. Also CB should change some rules about hopping clans when the season started. The FG player shopping certainly didnt help.
Care? The whine over 12 slots proved people did
Coverage? Best yet for a CDC both content and traffic wise
Turning up? Yup people turned up to play their matches
Attention? Higher than ever
The final may prove to be as boring as this one, but those points cant be planned for.
2bad i only got knowledge of "competitive ET scene" while uQ vs idle.ee match was :l
I dont think its fair on you singling out one person to blame, i.e Stealth for coverage, or lack of. First of all, if there are so many drop-outs and no shows - it makes coverage hard if you can only do a newspost about default wins.
You are comparing CDC, a LAN event with significant prize money for ET with Clanbase, an online competition with, afaik, no prize money and a stigma attached to it of how people perceive Clanbase nowadays. I dont think it is fair for you to compare the two.
People turn up for CDC events firstly because there is an incentive to go, prize money and the community side of it and also because people actually want to play and they pay the entry fee, so teams will, on the whole, attend once they have paid and if they lose a player, they will do their upmost to find a replacement. Clanbase doesn't have an entry fee, any team can signup and thus it is upto the supervisors discretion in terms of what teams are invited to the EC, its hard to predict the future life of a clan, particularly in an unstable scene such as ET.
You said yourself, you run the biggest coverage site for ET - yet I dont see you or your team striving to provide coverage on the event. Yes you've shoutcasted the most games in EC, but how many this season compared to previous ones?
I understand you have a, lot of commitments outside of ET which affects the amount of time you can put into coverage etc and to be honest im not a particular fan of Clanbase, but I think it is unfair that you take a moral high-ground the subject and seem to target Clanbase for the downfall of competitive online gaming in ET when there are a number of other organisations running cups and competitions.
As to why myself or my team arent out there striving to aid this EC, well quite simply why bother? The effort has to be there from Clanbase first and it just isnt there. I signed up to cast 3 or 4 EC games at the start and maybe 1 of them happened when they were supposed to, as soon as that happens I lose all interest. The volume of postponed matches make doing any form of coverage, be that written or shoutcast is not worth peoples time when Clanbase doesnt put the effort in themselves. The spark of enthusiasm has to come from the League first, not the coverage site.
Look outside of ET and to CoD, the CoDQCup grows from Clanbase's failures in CoD. They make the spark, the communities light the fire.
and disappear real quickly but new come instead, are it the same players or not? who can tell? nobody...
every month, or even week, i see new players when i prac with my clan and i dont know where they come from, mostly it are just kids that own us down like its not normal anymore.
ok, they can be good, but i never believe ppl that only play the game for a month can defeat a team with players that is playing, 5days of a week with the same lineup, and playing together for 2monts and individually more then 2-3years on the same game, get raped in less then 2 min on some maps (unless we make a mistake, but still...)
what has this to do with this post of you tosspot?
well lets say, everything...
you only see a few clans that are still together with the same team, same high skill... other teams are splitting up and forming a new group, and a few months later team is death and a new one is born...
less players of the oldschool are playing, new school is coming up but ppl think that they are pro too fast when they are just average players, i almost didnt know any of those teams that were playing in EC this year.
Im not really wonderd that this happend, also the part of cheaters that are coming more & more up, undetectable... most of the time you wont see those teams @ lan or if they come, well, who knows what they do to hide the hax, prolly let it @ home and play like they should but then they prolly suck... (no offense to anyone in this statement...)
oldschool teams were like this: teamplay & aim
newschool teams: aim, tax are mostly disappeared
thats the difference...
in my opinion, ET is not dieing, neither the cups, cups are just failing cause of the players who are in it that dont wanna play fair, think they are high skilled (when they are not) and the most important thing, the negativity of all ppl/kids that is given on this game...
grtz sylvester
Not really, last EC showed that you can't win by using aim only. And every EC does.
With some breathtaking AirStrikes @ the end of the final!
..and the number of online ET players has kinda been like that for 2 years - near enough 10k.
So we have a healthy number of players, and you would expect (statistically) a pretty consistent number of clan players. Also you would expect a pretty similar distribution of skills across those 10k players as previous years - if anything the base level would have increased, as with Q3 and the long-term players.
So I would suggest that:
a) cheats are killing the competitve side, and/or
b) lack of organisation/advertisement for the important competitions.
I think it's a bit of both, and the first kinda leads to the second. So my suggestion would be: lets firebomb panschmuckel and his retarded cohorts.
why not shoutcast it yourself?!
it is fucking clear that you moved to COD4, stay there and STFU about ET. a fucking cheerleader / ho is all that you are and a cheap one too, you my sir are a game hopper and the only thing you care about is your fail shoutcast carrier so stop acting like you care about ET.
RTCW>ET only reason you moved to ET was cuz you could play BOSS fuck i hate you!
But imo he has a point on the coverage, there are alot of cf admins who's only function is banning people or being inactive.
Maybe you should start a decent admin team with coverage admins and without sol who have to post atleast 3 news-items/articles/columns a month. This way we would have more content. And this way you are forcing the admins to be atleast semi-active.
If I was able to write decent english and had enough motivation to do it I would have applied for the job. But people like Rhand for example should be able to do such a job.
Boer GTFO i played this game before you had hair on your balls.
And ofcourse he is moving to newer games since people like you make ET a ducked up game. And CoD4 is for a bigger public so it's better for himself to shoutcast the bigger games.
And he still didn't forget about ET, and think about what he has done for this community.
Just stop visiting crossfire if you have something against the owner of it. Or is he forceing you to visit crossfire? NO SO STFU
it's pretty shit :D
same as i said to him just shorter mentally retarded moron. your just like him, 1 more guy that cant make it with ET skill and has to do other shit to get fame.
btw how does his ass taste?
far from my bed show
The demise of ET has come because of the attitude of people and communities. you dont have to look far to see what I mean. I hope there is another chance for ET to shine in EC, as like has been said it would be nice to go out with a big bang - rather than the poor joke that the last EC was.
After all, isnt the topic title
Not complaining though! >8]
Nope, sorry, this wasn’t about you. It was about the context of your column. I didn’t even remember your geeky comment, since you make quite a lot of those these days. Besides, come to think of it, didn't you just compliment me on my deep throat skills?? I thought it was funny AND mature!
I’ve learned as well not to take remarks on the internet personally. You should try that sometimes!
I read crossfire quite a lot because -some silly bastard I won't name- keeps pasting these links to me on msn. Crossfire is also a nice distraction when the other guys at the office are too slow and I've got nothing to do for a while. And no Tosspot, I don't read crossfire because of you and crossfire is not about your opinion. Sorry.
Another great site to check out when you're bored is abovetopsecret.com. I'm still not sure which of both sites is the greatest.
Touched a nerve? Seriously, don't flatter yourself.
First, there is a wide gap between new players and the old guard of players. Many of the older guard view the new players as not good enough, not skilled enough, and all-around not worthy of being given the chance to prove that they belong. On the flip side, many new players may regard the old guard of players as outstanding players who just are out of touch with what ET needs. On the whole, I think that both sides do have a valid point.
The easiest way to correct this, imo, would be for Crossfire and/or some other organization to organize and run a new version of EC. Get some real prize money, not game vouchers, but cold, hard cash as the prize. Say, get 2 grand as the prize for the winning team. That small amount of money would be easy to raise, especially considering the advertisement and promotional opportunities available for gaming companies, server rental companies, and the like at a competition like this.
Then, don't say who can and who cannot play. Instead, start up some open ladders, and in each try and put a mix of teams composed of veterans and newer players. Let the teams themselves say whether or not they belong, on the field. Only guaranteed spot should be for the reigning champion. I don't care if Parodia re-forms, unless they are the reigning champion make them earn a slot in the Tourney through ladder play.
If CB is unable or unwilling to give ET cups the coverage and prize which they need to be successful, its time to write CB off and find a new organization to host and run such events.
I think that Crossfire has that potential, as it is highly respected through-out the ET community and has the clout to pull something big together, but the question is are they willing? Crossfire doesn't need CB to showcase ET, they only need to have the drive and motivation to organize and run their own competition.