We're lacking columns on Crossfire at the moment and tumble weed is really getting quite annoying so I figured I'd start a new column series based on Peter Griffin's lovely segment on TV. It may not be Crossfire related all the time but its content and if you don't like that, well don't read it!
You know what really grinds my gears? English people who don't speak English properly. In our lovely world of gaming its perfectly understandable that the random player on the server might not have the best grasp of English but in their native language they could insult your ignorance with ease, but when an English person cant string a simple sentence together evenly close to its desired meaning? Come on!!
This was inspired by two incidents in my life recently, one, watching the episode of family guy that had this segment in it last night and , two, this iRC conversation I had this afternoon:
—› query with (XXXXXX) ([email protected]) <- (UK ISP)
(XXXX) hi
(XXXX) are you there/
(TosspoT) sup
(XXXX) i got xfire ban
(XXXX) nick; XXXX
(XXXX) i'm after cbban
(XXXX) can you unban me in xfire
(TosspoT) we double cb ban lengths
(XXXX) can i get unban?
(TosspoT) no
(XXXX) why ;(?
(XXXX) i'm after cbban
(XXXX) my cbban ended
(TosspoT) we double cb ban lengths
(XXXX) can i get unban?
(TosspoT) no
(XXXX) why ;(?
(TosspoT) why do you have an english IP if you cant speak coherent english?
(XXXX) soz..
(XXXX) sorry!
(XXXX) i'm after cbban
(XXXX) why you can't uban me?
(XXXX) :(?
(XXXX) ARE YOU THERE?
(XXXX) so my question is, must i make new accout?
I've taken a handful of lines out of there to keep it to the point, but my question is to mr XXXX, Why cant you speak English? What is wrong with the world that the people can't speak properly to one another. I'm big on first impressions and if your first impression is to demonstrate that you're retarded then how do you think I will react?
My younger niece has just discovered MSN and she and her school friends are using it, you'd think this could perhaps be a good way to increase their IT skills, but actually it teaches them foreign languages too! I couldn't tell you what the language was, but Half Term (the school holiday they are on currently) became Halv Tearm and yes became, yh. The problem is spreading people! What is acceptable in SMS' because you've a limit is not acceptable anywhere else in life! We must act now before the English language dies!
And that is what really grinds my gears.
You know what really grinds my gears? English people who don't speak English properly. In our lovely world of gaming its perfectly understandable that the random player on the server might not have the best grasp of English but in their native language they could insult your ignorance with ease, but when an English person cant string a simple sentence together evenly close to its desired meaning? Come on!!
This was inspired by two incidents in my life recently, one, watching the episode of family guy that had this segment in it last night and , two, this iRC conversation I had this afternoon:
—› query with (XXXXXX) ([email protected]) <- (UK ISP)
(XXXX) hi
(XXXX) are you there/
(TosspoT) sup
(XXXX) i got xfire ban
(XXXX) nick; XXXX
(XXXX) i'm after cbban
(XXXX) can you unban me in xfire
(TosspoT) we double cb ban lengths
(XXXX) can i get unban?
(TosspoT) no
(XXXX) why ;(?
(XXXX) i'm after cbban
(XXXX) my cbban ended
(TosspoT) we double cb ban lengths
(XXXX) can i get unban?
(TosspoT) no
(XXXX) why ;(?
(TosspoT) why do you have an english IP if you cant speak coherent english?
(XXXX) soz..
(XXXX) sorry!
(XXXX) i'm after cbban
(XXXX) why you can't uban me?
(XXXX) :(?
(XXXX) ARE YOU THERE?
(XXXX) so my question is, must i make new accout?
I've taken a handful of lines out of there to keep it to the point, but my question is to mr XXXX, Why cant you speak English? What is wrong with the world that the people can't speak properly to one another. I'm big on first impressions and if your first impression is to demonstrate that you're retarded then how do you think I will react?
My younger niece has just discovered MSN and she and her school friends are using it, you'd think this could perhaps be a good way to increase their IT skills, but actually it teaches them foreign languages too! I couldn't tell you what the language was, but Half Term (the school holiday they are on currently) became Halv Tearm and yes became, yh. The problem is spreading people! What is acceptable in SMS' because you've a limit is not acceptable anywhere else in life! We must act now before the English language dies!
And that is what really grinds my gears.
Also, what the fuck is up with people having to abbreviate every single word that's over five characters long?
Probably his parents didn't send him to school lol
edit: are you sure that "zone8.bethere.co.uk" is an english ISP maybe its a BNC?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckMvj1piK58
We can see it at school, students make more mistakes than in the past.
http://evilrtcw2.com/forums/blog.php?b=18
get query blocker or something :> , doing //mode $me +r helps too :p
Seriously though, you're right
Although we have to keep in mind that language is a dynamic part of the human kind and is always evolving.
Also, I do hate people who aren't able to speak English decently especially when its the English themselves that do it (or kids from NL, you got enough decent English languages here!) For myself, I try to speak as proper English as possible :)
but i do agree, the ability to communicate effectively in your native language + 1 or 2 foreign languages is fucking crucial to your success in life.
Pretty much all of Europe teaches English up to age 16 afaik, & it's used the world over.
Pretty depressing how we seem to be so arrogant about how we only need English, I mean sure, we seem to do okay, but that's only because foreign schooling systems seem to appreciate the ability to speak in more than one language.
In the UK it seems to be "let's try and teach them some basic French and the 5% that are good enough can go on to do either Spanish or German..."
Although I did actually enjoy learning French up till around year 8 in secondary school and the my teacher changed and it went down hill. I was in the 4th set (lowest) out of 4 and used my French lessons as a time to take the piss for an hour :/
I've since done Rosetta Stone courses but no where near enough to the extent that I'd like.
In retrospect wish I hadn't! The prevailing attitude of the time, and as has been further cemented itself in kids minds is the perception that learning a language for some bizarre reason won't help you gain a job, is worthless. Eh? Course it will... it'd take a sea change in employers prominently promoting MFL to stem the tide, at least a little.
Internetz - serious business!
It was the one subject at school I wasn't in the top group for, I was even in a higher Spanish group for some odd reason. (nothing to do with cheating on tests)
http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=forum&mode=item&id=23336
According to his profile. This guy is from the UK and 18 years old.
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must of pmmed me like 9 times xD
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I WIN!
"hi i am highskill played eurocup and no clan i have
i join clan of you? i am high+"
I really wonder what the response is!
like this guy wants me to play a scrim with him asking what nationality i am + what skill
i tell him the next thing he asks:
Hav0c ur belgium right?
nakato no, i'm not a country
i mean, he's english!
http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=journal&mode=item&id=46303
"[16:24:32] [faMousjuh] I know 100 % server im not a cheater"
I keep writing 'u' instead of 'you' on my english tests
SMS isn't an excuse.
On a side note, a text from my driving instructor:
"y r u k 2 hv ur lsn@ 6"
just made me laugh that as a driving instructor and therefore professional he's texting like that :D
me: "Will my lesson be at 5 or 6? You said 5 but you're not here."
him: "Why? Are you okay to have your lesson at 6?"
i dont understand shit! :@
in our austrian-german language its now very common to use shortcuts, lol's and things like that. Moreover young people often speak a kind of mixture between german/english/and austrian slang...
its a pity for the german language.
It seems to me that a lot of British people are dyslexic, or just happens to want to look like one. I can understand slang and abbreviation in SMS's or in conversations to a certain degree, but in every other instance you should write proper English. Some of the spelling mistakes/slang used is just useless, such as "no" instead of "know" and "yh" instead of "ye" as you mentioned. It doesn't even save time! I think it's quite funny that I write better English than most English people I speak to, even though I'm not a native speaker..
Lovely column by the way
xx is nackeredddd :) playinn hockeyyy 2mozzz :) lool int playedd in yearss welllll it feels liakk years aha.
xx is realii pissedd offf cuzz my stupidd bruvaa has wokenn me up (n) dikkheadss :)
xx is freezzzzinnn agennn :( im propa hungarry ;) nd iv jus ad ma tea aha :) fat pig i knoww aha :) bekahh finks shes all gudd but she ayy betta then me at situups.
xx has jus finished sratightenin her hair hehe and is jus going 2 doo her brain trainin on ds aha i fink my brain ae is propa 4 a 5 year old aaha.
nd iv jus ad ma tea aha :)
pisses me right off. like fkn asains mainly, (i work at a supermarket) they just point and don't speak. fk them. hate them.
asains that come and learn english yeah good on em i say but those ones that don't can GGF'd
There are, ofc, some abbreviations that are widely acceptable, though (tho?).
Oh, and ban 4 logz, kthxbai.
Cuz i dunno if i was baned or nt, c wt i did der?
One is people standing in doorways.
Another is when you hold the door for people and they show no gratitude whatsoever.
I held the door at school to let a class of approximately 20-30 people through the door before me some time this week and at most 3 or 4 said thank you. GAH
As most people, english is learned by television and/or internet.
People who doesn't pay attention to english that much normally lack the skills.
If I ask you to write a Japanese collumn, will you be able to get it to the right end? Don't think so! :) This aint meant bad, just saying that in this 'world', lots of people lack the ability to talk proper english and they will always do!
PS. I wonder if you have more of those logs, they gave me a good laugh! :))
[20:45] <`iR|HakkiJr> no I am iR
anyway i agree with the point you are making though, silly brits
it's good fun to see everyone paying a lot more attention to their english when replying to this column than they normally do though :D
[Nice ''Engrish''.]
might have to get confirmation from an NZ'er but i'm almost certain this happened.
I'll let the apostrophe error in "can't" slide.. but that most certainly should be even, and not evenly. GO LEARN ENGLISH OMG!
It doesn't take all that much effort to write 'properly' in my opinion, and some native speakers are indeed terrible. Though, I don't personally care about anyone else's language other than my own, and I am by no means perfect.
On a side note english taught abroad is probably better than english taught in England!...
Grammar mistakes that don't make much sense and usually occurr due to lack of knowledge -- extremely annoying.
Whenever I type in Croatian, I often use my dialect, unless it's something that really requires the text to be gramatically correct (emails to professors or other people you have ''respect'' for, and similar). Some people find it annoying, some don't -- but I don't care.
im chilean/argentinian guy
my native language is spanish
cheers