First of all I'd just like to mention this isn't a "column" against how much I hate ClanBase or how it should be burnt to the ground. In fact there are a lot of things CB is doing that are reminiscent of prior tournaments hosted. They have mice up for grabs for the top 3 places in ET EC this season, a considerable amount of coverage and what seems to be a decent admin structure; however that being said, I think the admin team needs a little "work".
As I'm sure a lot of people are aware of the recent match between Estonia and Poland in NC XIII where "
nordaN" played map 1 of 3 as "
TARVO" aka "Holz" thus intentionally trying to "deceive" the admins into thinking it was not him playing. However, terrible choice of a name to pick on the roster who hasn't even played ET in over a year which was probably easily spotted by CB NC's Head Admin 
Killerboy. Now, originally I wasn't even going to write this article because I really couldn't be bothered, however I received a few pm's from people who asked me to and after the attention it's gotten after the "incident".
Now, I'd like to flash back to Feb/09 where there were two matches scheduled to be played, one being Canada vs Hungary and USA vs Slovenia. Now I really didn't care much for rules against smurfing, I actually used to do it all the time in a lot of things, NA leagues, CB etc. and I know several other players who have done the same thing. Now, when Canada was scheduled to play against HUN we played the match with a smurf/ringer/merc "
The_End" knowingly because our 6th player went to bed. Then after we won, Steve asked us if I wanted to play in their match because of a lack of players. I said sure cause I'd rather play than have them forfeit. So after all was said and done Killerboy tracked the ips and matched them to myself & the_end respectively. Now, there's always euros saying "they used guidspoofers", or "they shared etkeys". However this wasn't the case. I for one deleted my etkey, but I didn't replace it with another player's etkey and The_End didn't even bother trying to hide it.
Upon Killerboy finding this information, he snickered off to his little throne of power and used his ban stick to thwart 2 bans our way. Now myself & The_End both received bans for the same amount of time. Three months for "Freelancing (fake nicked)". This is also found here http://clanbase.ggl.com/humaninfo.php?hid=2503954&suspend=1. Now, we both got banned for doing the same thing, however I got
Team Canada kicked out of NC because I was banned and was the captain. It only took Killerboy two weeks to ban the both of us, and we both knew it was coming after Nellie decided it would be best to stir up the pot and post something on crossfire before we were both CB banned. This is found here http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=news&mode=item&id=4343.
Two quotes I wanted to focus on from that article. Nellie posted "These revelations leave ClanBase in a sticky position as to their next move, with a minimum red card for both teams (i.e. forfeiting matches played with mercs) seeming a certainty." Now this did happen when Canada received a forfeit loss against HUN before being booted out. NownordaN played with EE and they didn't receive a minimum red card for playing with mercs? Hmmm... okay I guess. The second thing was the quote from ClanBase at the bottom of the news post. Quote Clanbase: "Since the situation with both teams has been handled by our C&A division we are now taking the step of removing both teams from competition. After banning the 2 involved players Anim and TheEnd Canada will be removed due to the person involved being their teamleader. For team USA the request was made to remove them by Mistaken, the American team captain. While it is regrettable the fault is theirs alone. Playing for a nation that you do not belong to will be punished severely." Now can't this be applied to the situation of nordaN and Estonia? Or is it just because Killerboy has a secret hatred towards myself and the rest of the NA community.
The CB rules state:
7. Any attempt to mislead a referee or a supervisor will be handled according to ClanBase's Abuse policy.
8. Any player caught faking his nationality in order to play for another nation will be considered as misleading the Supervisors and receive a temporary ban from ClanBase.
So according to these rules, shouldn't have nordaN received a ban by now? Shouldn't this issue have been addressed? Shouldn't the match have been overturned instead of Estonia sitting in the NC Semi Finals?
Now ifKillerboy can provide an explanation as to the differences between these two situations that would be great. However, he will not respond to me on irc, maybe he will after this? After contacting 
Homer about the incident, asking if nordaN would receive the same ban as me; he said "I don't know, I don't run NC".
If CB makes a policy and lays down rules to be followed and then they enforce them, they should be enforced across every match regardless of what year, what season or what league it is in played in - regardless of which player, or which match as well. My opinion is a bit biased because anyone can see the flaw in me getting banned for something for a total of 3 months meanwhile nordaN does the same thing and gets off the hook. However, that being said it comes back to reputation and upholding what your idea of fair is. Clanbase has been home to many seasons of ET competition, it's success is essentially a combination of the fact it provides free competition with a fairly organized challenge and response system and a few dedicated admins. The bottom line is though, if rules are going to be imposed one season for one league, why not another season for another league? If I smurf in one map against Estonia with team UK will I receive the same treatment as nordaN? A slap on the wrist and a chance to disconnect before I play both rounds and make the team suffer "consequences". Does this apply to bots as well? Are you allowed to smurf a cheater in for a round now as long as he doesn't play for the whole match and don't worry about receiving a ban? I think CB's lack of action in this case dictates how seriously they should be taken, which is not very seriously at all. However, I guess they are entitled to wave their ban stick whichever way they feel like it, or at least that's what it feels like.
I appreciate the work the CB admins do with providing a good competition environment for all who play in it. This appreciation stops at rule enforcement where time and time again CB seems to take the rules into their own discretion when enforcing how strongly they should be imposed. If you want to create a fair and unbiased atmosphere - ban the people who break the rules. Isn't that what they're there for in the first place?
As I'm sure a lot of people are aware of the recent match between Estonia and Poland in NC XIII where "
nordaN" played map 1 of 3 as "TARVO" aka "Holz" thus intentionally trying to "deceive" the admins into thinking it was not him playing. However, terrible choice of a name to pick on the roster who hasn't even played ET in over a year which was probably easily spotted by CB NC's Head Admin Killerboy. Now, originally I wasn't even going to write this article because I really couldn't be bothered, however I received a few pm's from people who asked me to and after the attention it's gotten after the "incident".Now, I'd like to flash back to Feb/09 where there were two matches scheduled to be played, one being Canada vs Hungary and USA vs Slovenia. Now I really didn't care much for rules against smurfing, I actually used to do it all the time in a lot of things, NA leagues, CB etc. and I know several other players who have done the same thing. Now, when Canada was scheduled to play against HUN we played the match with a smurf/ringer/merc "
The_End" knowingly because our 6th player went to bed. Then after we won, Steve asked us if I wanted to play in their match because of a lack of players. I said sure cause I'd rather play than have them forfeit. So after all was said and done Killerboy tracked the ips and matched them to myself & the_end respectively. Now, there's always euros saying "they used guidspoofers", or "they shared etkeys". However this wasn't the case. I for one deleted my etkey, but I didn't replace it with another player's etkey and The_End didn't even bother trying to hide it.Upon Killerboy finding this information, he snickered off to his little throne of power and used his ban stick to thwart 2 bans our way. Now myself & The_End both received bans for the same amount of time. Three months for "Freelancing (fake nicked)". This is also found here http://clanbase.ggl.com/humaninfo.php?hid=2503954&suspend=1. Now, we both got banned for doing the same thing, however I got
Team Canada kicked out of NC because I was banned and was the captain. It only took Killerboy two weeks to ban the both of us, and we both knew it was coming after Nellie decided it would be best to stir up the pot and post something on crossfire before we were both CB banned. This is found here http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=news&mode=item&id=4343.Two quotes I wanted to focus on from that article. Nellie posted "These revelations leave ClanBase in a sticky position as to their next move, with a minimum red card for both teams (i.e. forfeiting matches played with mercs) seeming a certainty." Now this did happen when Canada received a forfeit loss against HUN before being booted out. Now
nordaN played with EE and they didn't receive a minimum red card for playing with mercs? Hmmm... okay I guess. The second thing was the quote from ClanBase at the bottom of the news post. Quote Clanbase: "Since the situation with both teams has been handled by our C&A division we are now taking the step of removing both teams from competition. After banning the 2 involved players Anim and TheEnd Canada will be removed due to the person involved being their teamleader. For team USA the request was made to remove them by Mistaken, the American team captain. While it is regrettable the fault is theirs alone. Playing for a nation that you do not belong to will be punished severely." Now can't this be applied to the situation of nordaN and Estonia? Or is it just because Killerboy has a secret hatred towards myself and the rest of the NA community. The CB rules state:
7. Any attempt to mislead a referee or a supervisor will be handled according to ClanBase's Abuse policy.
8. Any player caught faking his nationality in order to play for another nation will be considered as misleading the Supervisors and receive a temporary ban from ClanBase.
So according to these rules, shouldn't have nordaN received a ban by now? Shouldn't this issue have been addressed? Shouldn't the match have been overturned instead of Estonia sitting in the NC Semi Finals?
Now if
Killerboy can provide an explanation as to the differences between these two situations that would be great. However, he will not respond to me on irc, maybe he will after this? After contacting Homer about the incident, asking if nordaN would receive the same ban as me; he said "I don't know, I don't run NC".If CB makes a policy and lays down rules to be followed and then they enforce them, they should be enforced across every match regardless of what year, what season or what league it is in played in - regardless of which player, or which match as well. My opinion is a bit biased because anyone can see the flaw in me getting banned for something for a total of 3 months meanwhile nordaN does the same thing and gets off the hook. However, that being said it comes back to reputation and upholding what your idea of fair is. Clanbase has been home to many seasons of ET competition, it's success is essentially a combination of the fact it provides free competition with a fairly organized challenge and response system and a few dedicated admins. The bottom line is though, if rules are going to be imposed one season for one league, why not another season for another league? If I smurf in one map against Estonia with team UK will I receive the same treatment as nordaN? A slap on the wrist and a chance to disconnect before I play both rounds and make the team suffer "consequences". Does this apply to bots as well? Are you allowed to smurf a cheater in for a round now as long as he doesn't play for the whole match and don't worry about receiving a ban? I think CB's lack of action in this case dictates how seriously they should be taken, which is not very seriously at all. However, I guess they are entitled to wave their ban stick whichever way they feel like it, or at least that's what it feels like.
I appreciate the work the CB admins do with providing a good competition environment for all who play in it. This appreciation stops at rule enforcement where time and time again CB seems to take the rules into their own discretion when enforcing how strongly they should be imposed. If you want to create a fair and unbiased atmosphere - ban the people who break the rules. Isn't that what they're there for in the first place?
[01:44:04] <FiF|Jere> YOU KICKBAN ME BUT DONT KICKBAN NORDAN
[01:44:08] <FiF|Jere> thats enough
Nothing personal against nordan or team ee tho.
RAAAAAAAAAAAPED.
Yes i know, breaking the rules isn´t the same as murder. But people seem to be bitching about it like it was.
In before "lol you´re biased". Hell yes i am.
Poland had one player with tray tools for set picmip under the CFG limit and on CB rules were write that every exteral program that could give an advantage is banned. but ofc admins gave victory to poland anyway
now i know that et is not qw but it's just an example about how cb works: if you're friend of an admin, you will get everything
Firstly, stop crying. It's quite childish for you who got banned to complain when someone else didn't get the same ban.
Secondly, if the CB admin team needs a little "work", then why not help out yourself? You're forgetting that people like Killerboy spent hundreds - if not thousands of hours fighting against cheaters and abuse. I trust his judgement, even if it's not always 100% non-biased. If it wasn't for him, the scene would now be infested by cheaters and scumbags.
Edit: You're not insulting KB or the CB staff so that's certainly a good point.
Sure Animal comes across a touch whiney but there is an interesting point to be debated.
So my opinion is this: If what he says is true, then bans should be equal. However, cut KB some slack, he's doing the best he can.
Estonia tried to fool the "system" and in a competition like NC which is still respected they should get the punishment they deserve.
I sometimes wonder though. Take this situation for example:
A star team which is fanboyd and loved by the entire community plays in the same cup as an ex-cheater infested team which is hated by all and actually sucks hard. Both teams break the same rule (which has the consequence of getting the team banned for the season). Now you need to take into account two things:
1) The league will suffer from the loss of the best and most loved team, making the entire exposure of the league a joke. Having a lowbob final is completely pernicious for the league, as it will be labelled "lowest league ever", and will lose credibility on the long run.
2) Banning only the hated team (who didn't have a slight chance to even get near the finals) and not the top notch loved team will be frowned upon, making the league lose credibility in applying the rules, making it a corrupt league.
So for the first scenario, the league keeps its integrity, but loses general interest, resulting in a very bad outcome.
For the second scenario, the league keeps its general interest, but loses its integrity, resulting in a still quite popular, but biased outcome.
Choosing between these two scenarios is always a very hard choice. Is giving out biased bans a matter of morality? Or isn't it that important, can we apply rules relatively?
I still go for the hard stick-to-the-rules idea, but this matter is subject to debate.
Not applying the rules will give a signal to the community that u can get away with such stuff, and people will use this match as a precedent to get away with similar situations.
For NC to remain its "top" competition reputation, Estonia need to be kicked out of the competition (since it clearly stated like this in the rules) and then a eventual ban for their player(s) depending on how killerboy judges the situation.
The people have the power, sad thing is that the people are generally stupid and immature :-(
For Anim, you got fucked but there's nothing you can do about it, stop beeing an ass.
And your words are 100% correct, its always been like that in CB, atleast yout got the point :)
but yeah, thats pretty fucking stupid. So basically any supervisor can do whatever the fuck he wants regardless of the rules.
Hello ClanBase, Bye Integrity.
Supervisors do not have the right to bend rules as they want, especially not important ones as these.
And like you can see this is the column section, its purpose is to get some active debate, which I am doing, so no harm in that I assume.
Krosan was saying better not to kick Estonia cuz otherwise you'd have a bad NC final.
I was saying that the other 3 teams (uk/fin/pl) were also capable of making a good final.
Thanks m8, was just telling it how it is.
and on topic, integrity > *
If you lose integrity as a league, might as well stop doing shit at all.
CB admins are supposed to be trustworthy and seeing this case, they're obviously not cause they make exceptions for people they like.
Dont give me this bullshit "KillerBoy has other things to do, he already did a lot for CB".
He knows what happened, he knows who did what, shit's been written all over Crossfire in the past week(s), he just fails to act to it.
Comparing that to EE's lineup this NC where against poland their lineup was : subbi, mant, freeze, sinnu and nordaN (before they got reload or whoever to take his place). Mant also had a pbban in 09 if you check his C&A profile on CB. Again, I realize your post was an example, but just because a team has been reputable in the past or it used to be a "fanboyd and loved" nation, doesn't necessarily mean it still is today.
A perfect example of your second example is when they banned Iceland for cheats. They weren't liked too much to begin with so removing them was probably an easy option, however this situation with nordaN and EE comes right down to the rules. CB clearly laid them out and dealt with a situation prior. Not that this is a good comparison, but in trial cases a lot of judges look at precedents before making their decision. Did Kboy even consider the precedent he made about a year ago?
In Anim's case, however, the facts are all laid out clearly. Sure, the cases may differ somewhat, but ClanBase (if they wish to be taken seriously) should stand by the rules they have made. These rules are rather tight and quite strict (I quote: "Playing for a nation that you do not belong to will be punished severely") but that's the way they've made them.
Both cases are instances of somebody playing for a nation they don't belong to. The offenders received drastically different punishments. Personally, I have nothing against KB/Clanbase and the final decision is not really important to me; however, an explanation from staff in regards to such a controversial issue would be wonderful.
lol
your so fucking awesome, i hope you know that
Since 2 they for sure broke 2 rules:
Merc faking nickname
and
playing for a nations team where he doesnt belong in.
Imo rule with the iron fist at least that is what i would do if i was head admin of the C&A part of CB.
poles arent whining?? rest of the fucking commiunity is whining bout it? so how bout u use ur lil brains and start to think bout it?
WHAT ? So, let's tell now that clans can play in NationsCup if opponent agrees..
Was a nice way to see u approaching it too anim instead of the usual ah cb is shit etc etc. Actually got ur view across well and i can see exactly where your coming from. I would have done the same myself if i was you.
Also me agreeing with anim saying they should have been removed from nc has nothing to do with our game vs EE. I am just stating the rules should be followed.
But as I see it, .EE were not fair about it, they didn't announce the use of a non-allowed player (it is NATIONScup making the merc worse than in EC) and that way "cheated" poland to have a free choice before the game. Poland may say what they want, but in the end .EE tried to fool poland & clanbase and failed at it.
2. Praxis is the alternative, in case there is no written law. The court has a look at cases from the past and it draws its conclusions from that. Praxis isn't applied in all countries, but at least in EU it is.
Now there are clear rules on CB, so why not apply them? And even if there were no rules on "smurfing", there in fact is a praxis. The case which anim mentioned fits perfectly.
Internet is of course no territorial region but isn't it reasonable to demand certain professionality from the cb-admins. In fact they are comparable to a judge.
Clanbase has a good "rules list". Therefore I find it very strange that admins have done such a mistake.
On the other hand we have Killerboy who thinks its all good, cause he wants to be cool with nordan.
I'd say first get together and try to understand the rules, so you're on the same page being admins for the same league, cause its looking retarded now.
Second I'd say, Clanbase is a fucking joke. Integrity is what a professional gaming league should be all about, if you cant deliver integrity towards the participants of the league, it means the players cant trust on your judgement cause it changes constantly.
How do you run a league that players cant rely on?
but hey...I've yet to see Killerboy's response to this, cause I cant wait to see how he's gonna try and save his ass from this shit.
Fucking win.
they used an outsider in a nationscup, they violated the very thing the cup is based on - there is nothing to debate tbh, they should be punished accordingly
nothing against the EE's who obviously deserve at least a top3 position this NC but they simply broke the rules, can't do much here
Just let me remind you - Estonia won previous NC final mainly because they took the same map in the two recent matches in a row (semi- and final) - delivery. It's against the rules of course.
Now we see that rules aren't the same for everyone again. It's obvious that Estonia should loose by forfeit, also
Rules are rules.
It's quite obvious that Killerboy was affraid of kicking out Estonia, "man it's home of
Also I really have to admit, I loughed my ass of reading
and radar was the decider in the finals so again they couldn't pick it?
edit : and yes we didn't even pick radar in the semi final or any previous rounds
You took delivery in semi vs Croatia and in final vs Poland.
missing fact about Homer, who did NOTHING to solve this problem.
Have I insult you in my comment? No? So beware of your words. I bet that you didnt talk with KB. You even wrote news on Et.owned that Team-PL had been betrayed.
I wonder why you didnt read this column. This discuss is about last match between POL vs EE, when
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Don't let me see you do it again.
And btw: http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=column&mode=item&id=512#comment26291
if you don't have players, just say so, wildcard or ask to use sub, but don't fake
for me it says enough about estonian players who played that game.. sad
So anyway, the day came and problems started,
So considering the information and evidence i had, which was minimal and time which was a bit knowing i need to please 2 teams and 500 spectators, i decided the fairest thing would be to tell
Some days before and after the match as you might have noticed I have refrained from posting or interacting myself on Crossfire since I have my A/I Level exams and I didn't want to spend too much time, I had to repeat a whole year because i didn't pass last year and didn't want the same thing to happen again, everyone has his real life and this time i have decided it's fair enough for me to spend more time on studies rather than ET for this month. So I wasn't able to respond on Crossfire or discuss it on IRC or state the reason or what happened during the game. I read all the debates in this column and they are almost all valid points, there are many things which can be discussed and i will mention a few, obviously there are many biased people here and anti-CB haters that don't have any idea about the rules, yes it is true the rules are outdated and we should technically still be using PB and GV Streaming for every CB related match, I have decided to be more leniant towards teams as I noticed that prior seasons and a few months ago, teams boycotted CB for applying the rules and flamed them to death for doing so (example Romania boycotted NC for obeying the wildcard rule), and it appeared to me that instead of giving out cards or forfeits for every rule that is broken, i'd rather talk to the teams when they break a rule, example not showing up on irc channel 1 hour before, putting CB Nicks on IRC and in-game, correct guids, etc.
Did
Sorry for the longpost, i know i will still get flamed and i tried to explain the thoughest decision i had to do in-game, and note I'm not saying it is 100% the right one, that is open for debate, I don't mind you discussing it aslong as it stays clean. I don't get paid for hosting cups season after season, and I'm sure any admin who has hosted a NationsCup and
Thanks.
edit. Whaaaat, everyone else had a flag, except me :(
:P
Who's to say he wouldn't have played the entire match if you hadn't turned on PB and basically forced him to quit? As for proof, I don't think either team-ee or nordan himself are exactly denying it that he/they did smurf a player. :P
I'd consider removing team-ee from NC (because they played with a ringer from a different nationality), and kicking nordan from the current competitions he's playing (to punish him after he's finished the current season of EC and whatever else he might be playing wouldn't really be a punishment at all, imo, like waiting for somebody make interest off of stolen money, before taking it back).
It's less clear what to do with nordan, because the previous case with anim/end had complications (you were misinformed that they had exchanged etkeys, or were spoofing them), but I think that the case for removing team-ee –the NC captain & team knowingly playing with a foreign ringer– is much clearer. I don't think PL's decision to let the match continue, after they were informed, should come into play.
This might be good fodder for a poll.
I do appreciate you taking the time to write out your position in detail (yes, I read it all, and it helped me understand where you're coming from), and thank you for all the work you do to keep ET going. :)
P.S. Yes, I'm probably biased because I'm Canadian. :P
Keep up your good work.
:D related quote:
[18:22] anim`: [CB]Bartichello, I'm sorry for any inconvinience I've caused, I'm not going to ask for any mercy or pity, I just want you to realize that you've done your job as admin and stuck to the rules
dont really know what to say to this part, the event itself was bad enough but bullshit to cover it :\
That first rule is a fucking joke, CB has been accepting AND promoting countries outside of EUROPE to play in NC for a reason. What is that reason? Simply better competition. There have always been exceptions to top teams, does that make it right? If you think so, that's a joke - I know it's an old example but when u5 (LOL TOP AMERICAN TEAM) played in a playoff match with incorrect GUIDS and they forfeitted, no if's and's and buts. IF you can't follow the rules, you don't deserve to play in the competition. Yea I got banned for not following them, but you guys did the exact SAME thing this season. Having the elitist ideology that the top teams are untouchable and exempt from the rules is absurd. Just because a match may not have the "top players" in it, I think you forget that without all the players playing this game YOU wouldn't even have prizes to receive from this game. You should be thankful this game has lasted so long as it is probably the only one you'll ever excel in as well as you do.
Don't get me wrong, I really don't mind you as a person, but this post is so egotistical it's not even funny.
*important
moron.
I see you likes to manipulate comments, therefore I put a manipulate in your manipulate, now I will see when you tries to manipulate again mate.
and well it has already took enough long for the final to be played..... hopefully
Keep up your good work ClanBase. Soon you will be new PifPaf League (polish people know what I mean). And you act suprised when people doesn't bother to keep dates etc.
Eesti players - don't take me wrong. You would have won anyway but what you did is just not cool and you should be at least kicked from NC.
"written by animal"
and then i was like lol, no human, no read, bibuy :P
Fairness in my ass, there has to be some bendable rules since the it is already so hard to get a good game and keep the competitions smooth. But only when everyone PLAYING agrees to them.
btw krein wrote smth upper
edit: just read his comments, I stand corrected :-)
kboy heeft ze gewoon genegeerd op alles da ze zeiden XD
Who of you is playing CB (Ladder, OC, EC, even NC)?
If you have played 100 matches (what quite a few ppl here have on their list), how many matches have "gone wrong" due to Clanbase "mistakes" or rules or smth like that?
If you shedule your matches, talk to your opponents and dont use disallowed players (hi NordaN), i'm pretty sure it cant be above 1!
You blame clanbase for making wrong deccisions. What would you do in that case? And, state yourself the question: Would ppl be happy with your deccision?
the only thing that matters is whether u observe the rules while making them
Enforcing the rules based on personal biases seems to be an unwritten CB rule itself...
[ ] punish EE and nordan right now.
[ ] punish nordan
[ ] punish EE
[ ] let it be
punish will be: remove them from NC (actual and in the next one)
Ok first of all it aint the fault of the whole Clanbase community if theres an mistake done by an Cup-Supervisor, most of the people doesnt know that theres such things as "Chief of Cups and CO-Chief of Cups" one of those is "Chainzz".
If u really feel like theres an wrong decision made by an Supervisor then ull need to contact the Chiefs by e-mail, or at IRC. I personally had to do this last year one time with OC when there were this fricking moron Goldorak as an OC Cup-supervisor giving an permission to our opponent to play with mercs after I did check those quids from players and did notice there is 2 mercs and 1 player aint even at the allowed player's list.
Anyways Goldorak did ask from Killerboy about my whine about those players and the answer copy pasted by Goldorak is kinda word to word: "Ignore the abuse and force them to play!"<---- Seriously what the fuck is that!
I thought that Killerboy has learnt about his mistakes and makes his job better but doing such decision like this last one here with team.EE and nordaN is *******.
I really know how much work it is to be an Supervisor at the CB, trust me I know, I'm former CB CS:S OC/EC head Cup-supervisor and yes its a' lot of work to do.
As far as I know and things were when I were an Supervisor almost every other game was going with the correct schedule times and correct decision by Supervisors because other ones ASK'S from their fricking Chief if they dont know what to do.
Im having an feeling that if for exam. Chainzz thinks about these decisions made by Killerboy earlier he would replace the team.EE with team.UK at Final against my loved homeland Finland.
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FLAME ON!
Rules are written to be applied , not to be tweaked in favor to certain situations. You may not like us Killerboy but that's not a reason to be biased.
That being said I think you've helped the community alot and I'd like to thank you for letting us play in the NC. About the ping fairness though it wasn't always right (see the Japan / Slovenia case).
You probably acted on the emotions when you banned canada from last NC because anim was being annoying. He can be a dick when he wants(I have had true conversations with him and we both screamed and insulted each other :P) but that shouldn't have been
a reason. Admins . just like judges , refs , shouldnt be biased , their role is to be fair and apply the rulebook.
It might be easier to ban a "lowbob team" just like Canada/Iceland/USA and harder to ban good teams like EE , PL , BE. Some guys stated the fact that you are a friend of many EE players. I'm not sure if it's true but once again it shouldn't have been a factor.
If you banned Anim , TheEnd and Canada, then why wouldn't you ban Estonia AND nordan?
Thank you for answering this.
EDIT: Sorry for my flaws in english , my first language is french.
Now could you please explain to me why arent Nordan and team Estonia banned while in the same situation both the players and the team(s) involved were banned??