Now before anybody reads this. This is not me being scared of playing anybody or anything like that. It's more about principles and sportsmanship..
I am of course talking about CB Eurocup XXI and certain teams and individuals.
You can see the play-off tree here - http://clanbase.ggl.com/rules.php?lid=10449#chap_1194
I am talking about the members in Group D, namely
FiF and 
Epsilon. Both teams have decided that a forfeit would suit them both as they would avoid playing Overload and 
idle.ee in the Winner bracket (Forfeit win for FiF means that FiF top the group and play 
rockit, and Epsilon finish 3rd and play Sleeperz and 
colt45). Leaving bF (who finish 2nd because of this) to play Overload and then the winner of Impact / 
Speedlink and idle.ee.
Forfeiting matches to get easier playoff matches is not something I would call good sportsmanship and I feel it is kind of unfair for teams like us, bF and Sleeperz. colt45 have managed to win every match in our group so far and have not even lost a single round and are certain we won't do so tonight either. But yet, we must play one of the favourites in the first round, due to this forfeiting. I wouldn't want to have finish 2nd like Impact either as we'd come across idle.ee, the other favourites. But nOu way scraped 3rd spot in our group and have easier matches than both colt45 and Impact, who finished above them :\
I am disappointed in ENSAM's and Jere's actions for taking the easy way out and avoiding playing these teams in playoffs but I am more disappointed in 
Killerboy and for a couple of reasons..
Why is that playoff tree public before the groups are over anyway? If it wasn't, this problem wouldn't occur and every team would want to win all their matches, naturally assuming that the higher they finish, the easier the team in playoffs.
Second of all, by reading the comments in the EC private channel, he seemed to be in favour of this forfeiting. He knew exactly what was going on and why the match was being forfeited, he was even trying to find rules IN FAVOUR of this forfeit for Epsilon. So, I am not happy with his biasedness here, since I thought he did very well so far.
That is my rant over anyway. We are still going to play Eurocup and continue with playoffs but we are still disappointed by the sportsmanship of FiF and Epsilon and the attitude of Killerboy.
I am of course talking about CB Eurocup XXI and certain teams and individuals.
You can see the play-off tree here - http://clanbase.ggl.com/rules.php?lid=10449#chap_1194
I am talking about the members in Group D, namely
FiF and Epsilon. Both teams have decided that a forfeit would suit them both as they would avoid playing Overload and idle.ee in the Winner bracket (Forfeit win for FiF means that FiF top the group and play rockit, and Epsilon finish 3rd and play Sleeperz and colt45). Leaving bF (who finish 2nd because of this) to play Overload and then the winner of Impact / Speedlink and idle.ee.Forfeiting matches to get easier playoff matches is not something I would call good sportsmanship and I feel it is kind of unfair for teams like us, bF and Sleeperz.
colt45 have managed to win every match in our group so far and have not even lost a single round and are certain we won't do so tonight either. But yet, we must play one of the favourites in the first round, due to this forfeiting. I wouldn't want to have finish 2nd like Impact either as we'd come across idle.ee, the other favourites. But nOu way scraped 3rd spot in our group and have easier matches than both colt45 and Impact, who finished above them :\I am disappointed in
ENSAM's and Jere's actions for taking the easy way out and avoiding playing these teams in playoffs but I am more disappointed in Killerboy and for a couple of reasons..Why is that playoff tree public before the groups are over anyway? If it wasn't, this problem wouldn't occur and every team would want to win all their matches, naturally assuming that the higher they finish, the easier the team in playoffs.
Second of all, by reading the comments in the EC private channel, he seemed to be in favour of this forfeiting. He knew exactly what was going on and why the match was being forfeited, he was even trying to find rules IN FAVOUR of this forfeit for
Epsilon. So, I am not happy with his biasedness here, since I thought he did very well so far.That is my rant over anyway. We are still going to play Eurocup and continue with playoffs but we are still disappointed by the sportsmanship of
FiF and Epsilon and the attitude of Killerboy.
What's going on?
Fif vs Epsilon, winner loses.
and if you actually check the playoff, having idle, overload, epsilon, impact in one playoff bracket is obviously bad, the other playoff bracket would have looked so bad, and there is nothing wrong with this forfeit, happens all the time.
1) we announced playoff tree before the groups were announced
2) you were the first one that asked me for the playoff tree, you're such a hypocrite
you had the easiest group, easy teams were in your group, so obviously you are going to play versus good teams in playoffs
A clan that forfeits a group match for the second time will be removed from the Cup
bb epsilon?
Why does this make him a hypocrite? He didnt use the info to influence the way the playoffs would be played, the others did...??
v&e died, and they fielded a KRP mix lineup
Berza died and instead a
and nkNn had lineup problems (no 5th)
so it ended up in a really weird group :P
and tbh FiF took the harder way (altough we have one free round now)
gtfo
match epsilon vs bF - epsilon started match with 4 ppl, lepari joined but he was insta 999 -> according to rules 4 players means insta ff (on gtv it got cancelled but on cb page there is 4:0 for bF, hmm hmm). I dont think that having 4 players + player with 999 in team can be considered as having 5 players (+ as i said, they started match with 4 players). If its not like that, why is it cancelled on gtv?
Another rule says that every team which has two forfeits is supposed to be instantly removed from league.
For me it seems somebody should be kicked from EC, dont like double standarts...
+1 to kamz as well, very fucked up playoffs
Anyway, thats just one example why ET eurocups have been groups of 4 most of the time. There's no room for cabinet play and there's usually no forfeits or dropouts, unlike now.
Finally, is getting best teams for different side of bracket really so bad?
He-HEEE
REMAKE OASIS
+1 to kamz it's unfair to do this but if it gets you further i guess :X
wel maybe not with yours <3
:)
Actually now it's perfect. The bracket pattern is published @ rules site and that's how it should be in the previous seasons.
folded !
Edit. Thats absolute BS - so because epsilon forfeit FiF comes 1st and epsilon comes 3rd the 2 best positions in that group to finish. I feel sorry for BF.
fuck them imo, bunch of retarded kids.
and im not mad, I couldn't care less..
The fact that u and FiF have to agree to a forfeit to have a chance of winning a shit online competition like EC is hillarious.
only thing they forgot was that if we lost to FiF then they wouldn't win it.
I didn't make the decision but one reason why we gave forfeit, and this is the only reason I agreed is that bf wouldn't win the group, because of their childish behaviour.
I hope you understand!
and why is colt so scared? we aren't that good.. as kamz said they won every round of EC, and we lost 2 matches. :D
even if I'd gladly see f5 win the whole thing, I still agree that this is not the right way for things to go. Totally agree with ya
next time u want to play 4v5, keep in mind that its not the same as playing with 5 players, silly baboon
kk ego fin lijers
Also, stop using my trolled hard pic please.
FACE US LIKE A MAN :P
"FACE US LIKE A MAN :P "
Funny, Night said the same thing about epsilon !
this just proves how low 2 last ec season's was! xDDD
EC winners? what a joke xDD
if you were a real sportsman you wouldn't whine about this because you should be going for the first place anyways. Shouldn't matter if you face the good teams now or a round later.
What this teams with forfeiting have done is pretty smart and lame at the same time.
i said it already on monday that chicken shits will pussy out
You have € 500 on serenity
You lost
idle will win this ec and show us all what real sportmanship is + even if idle = in a idle period they wouldnt dodge any1 and still beat the hell outa them.
u will c!
Seems like they are the only ones playing fair & don't really care who they have to play.
remove your prize money for 6 seasons and lets see if you still have as many signups as EC, and compare EMS newsposts with EC newspost coverage and compare the views, comments, it's obviously clear that EMS is not > EC in ET.
You know what are my arguments:
- CB Admin(s) - guess who - prefers certain teams(like in NC), although OTHER TEAMS have potential.
- Rules are shit for you, however...We are always keeping the rules on top, make little exceptions for those that follow our rules and really deserve one. You make your own rules so that you can bypass them whenever you want.
And the list can go on...
Still, ESL admins are 24/7 on #esl.et, willing to answer questions regarding the ESL page. I might do a little tutorial for players to see how izi is to use the ESL page if you have enough brains.
gl for the new site
And you are blaming us, ET Admin Crew, why? Do you think I have the moneyz in my back pocket and I don't want to deliver them to you? ESL is a very big organization, we are just pawns, making the daily work for free.
Anyway, you should know CS,DOTA,FIFA have priority and get their money faster than ET. We could make ET a high priority, but it's not up to us, it's up to you, PLAYERS.
Cheers mate.
elaborate
personally i advocate all forms match fixing especially when colt45 ( btf nice ripping afro man) are the major losers!
all the teams that are almost there, but havent quite made it?
right you are!
EDIT, thx for the hit
= killerboy hurensohn