This column is going to be harsh and blunt, but honest. If you get offended by anything within this column, then you are exactly what I'm talking about. If not, then good for you, you are different to us all; and you are lying to yourself.
Gamer life, that’s what they call it, is it not? Those ‘nerds’ that sit there playing games, perhaps eating a snack, and sipping on a glass of cola whilst they do, as a major hobby and spend a large proportion of their time enjoying it. A large proportion of us on this website have one up on, 'casual gamers' and maybe even try and justify this as a reason for continuing to play - competition is cool remember. I myself certainly look down upon those Call of Duty players that enjoy sitting there in front of their televisions. I am a competitive gamer, I am better, right? I think the ET community is generally a good one compared to certain others; games like HoN and SC2 as well as MMORPGs such as WoW are much worse off.
However, it is not a crime to live like this, as it’s almost free, it can be fun, and it allows us to enjoy ourselves during those winter months where none of us even want to roll out of bed in the mornings. That does not mean there is nothing wrong with it, though. It is my theory that all of us have some sort of issues. Hell, I sure did. Leaving school un-confident and slightly socially awkward, I found the internet an easy way to get over these hurdles by just chatting easily online. Spending evenings on the skk! ventrilo was a regular occurrence.
Gamers to this degree have issues or are using games as a form of escapism. These issues range from person to person, it could be a confidence issue, as we do not wish to go out and communicate. A whole lot of people have confidence issues, I have met beautiful girls who still manage to feel down about their appearance and seem oblivious to the guys that either walk past giving me the ‘hard geezer stare’ thinking I am dating them, or check them out. It is a silly thing to have, the majority of the time you cannot change these overnight. It could be social issues, as you find it harder and harder to communicate with people, which is linked into confidence. It could also be an issue with schooling and achievements. I feel a lot of us although clever could lack the appropriate grades and lack motivation and effort in general. Games are a fantastic way to combat this; you’re working towards something productive, mastering things from tracking to timing to APM depending on the game you play. The main thing I want the community to remember about this is that, unfortunately, games mean absolutely nothing to the working man. I wonder how many of you put that you play games onto your CVs or University applications. I definitely did not! Depression is also something that comes into a large amount of gamers, a lot of us I would say have had a period of depression within their gaming ‘career’ when it is the only thing that has some stability and therefore we rely upon it. Then there are the physical conditions that could potentially leave you unable to work or do much, these are actually reliable and understandable pardons.
Everything else is done psychologically and can be changed if we want to.
Then there is the healthy side. The events, the good times within the community that although sad, we can all remember and smile about. I’m talking about times like when Drago shot that beautiful panzerhaust on Frostbite and times like when Meez ran into the door, also on Frostbite to get sniped in the back of the face by Matias in the CC7 final, or even when Vila decided to post that fantastic screenshot showing us all openly that he was cheating. You all remember these times, and they were good times. I will never regret gaming and spending 5 years of my life actively playing them. This is not an issue for me now, but I used to be quite embarrassed by the whole situation, and I suppose a large amount of us are still. LANs are another fantastic point, and I feel that all those people that consider LAN goers ‘fat geeks’ because we spend money to attend them (Yes, I am talking about the people wielding the Flag) have got it completely the wrong way. Meeting those people that you have spoken to online face-to-face is one of the most bizarre things when I think about it, but it is for me now so easy and comfortable. I met up with people whilst travelling and got the obvious questions from my friends that I was with such as ‘what happens if he is not who he says he is?’ and the classic ‘what if he rapes you?’ – They simply do not understand, but were all very impressed with the people I did meet up with. I enjoy having friends that I can get into contact with all over the world, and I do not see why it should be any other way, meeting up with those gamers at LANs and having access to virtually free walking tours in cities like Vienna from inhabitants like V1ech, or crashing at b3cks apartment in Lille, or staying at Overboost’s place near Amsterdam and getting a feel for dutch life is something I would not trade for anything, and if you run out of things to say, you can always fall back to that panzer by Drago. I also see LANs as some of the best weekends away ever, the atmosphere is unreal, we are all there for the same reason, and we guys know how to drink, and I mean that.
Overall, although that a large proportion of us do have issues, and few will openly admit those issues, the community life isn’t really that bad, and in reality is nothing to be ashamed or embarrassed about. I am moving on, and I am I suppose growing up. We all get to the point where we realise that in reality, the way you move or aim is not important, and we need to move on with our lives – and that is what will ultimately kill our beloved ET.
Gamer life, that’s what they call it, is it not? Those ‘nerds’ that sit there playing games, perhaps eating a snack, and sipping on a glass of cola whilst they do, as a major hobby and spend a large proportion of their time enjoying it. A large proportion of us on this website have one up on, 'casual gamers' and maybe even try and justify this as a reason for continuing to play - competition is cool remember. I myself certainly look down upon those Call of Duty players that enjoy sitting there in front of their televisions. I am a competitive gamer, I am better, right? I think the ET community is generally a good one compared to certain others; games like HoN and SC2 as well as MMORPGs such as WoW are much worse off.
However, it is not a crime to live like this, as it’s almost free, it can be fun, and it allows us to enjoy ourselves during those winter months where none of us even want to roll out of bed in the mornings. That does not mean there is nothing wrong with it, though. It is my theory that all of us have some sort of issues. Hell, I sure did. Leaving school un-confident and slightly socially awkward, I found the internet an easy way to get over these hurdles by just chatting easily online. Spending evenings on the skk! ventrilo was a regular occurrence.
Gamers to this degree have issues or are using games as a form of escapism. These issues range from person to person, it could be a confidence issue, as we do not wish to go out and communicate. A whole lot of people have confidence issues, I have met beautiful girls who still manage to feel down about their appearance and seem oblivious to the guys that either walk past giving me the ‘hard geezer stare’ thinking I am dating them, or check them out. It is a silly thing to have, the majority of the time you cannot change these overnight. It could be social issues, as you find it harder and harder to communicate with people, which is linked into confidence. It could also be an issue with schooling and achievements. I feel a lot of us although clever could lack the appropriate grades and lack motivation and effort in general. Games are a fantastic way to combat this; you’re working towards something productive, mastering things from tracking to timing to APM depending on the game you play. The main thing I want the community to remember about this is that, unfortunately, games mean absolutely nothing to the working man. I wonder how many of you put that you play games onto your CVs or University applications. I definitely did not! Depression is also something that comes into a large amount of gamers, a lot of us I would say have had a period of depression within their gaming ‘career’ when it is the only thing that has some stability and therefore we rely upon it. Then there are the physical conditions that could potentially leave you unable to work or do much, these are actually reliable and understandable pardons.
Everything else is done psychologically and can be changed if we want to.
Then there is the healthy side. The events, the good times within the community that although sad, we can all remember and smile about. I’m talking about times like when Drago shot that beautiful panzerhaust on Frostbite and times like when Meez ran into the door, also on Frostbite to get sniped in the back of the face by Matias in the CC7 final, or even when Vila decided to post that fantastic screenshot showing us all openly that he was cheating. You all remember these times, and they were good times. I will never regret gaming and spending 5 years of my life actively playing them. This is not an issue for me now, but I used to be quite embarrassed by the whole situation, and I suppose a large amount of us are still. LANs are another fantastic point, and I feel that all those people that consider LAN goers ‘fat geeks’ because we spend money to attend them (Yes, I am talking about the people wielding the Flag) have got it completely the wrong way. Meeting those people that you have spoken to online face-to-face is one of the most bizarre things when I think about it, but it is for me now so easy and comfortable. I met up with people whilst travelling and got the obvious questions from my friends that I was with such as ‘what happens if he is not who he says he is?’ and the classic ‘what if he rapes you?’ – They simply do not understand, but were all very impressed with the people I did meet up with. I enjoy having friends that I can get into contact with all over the world, and I do not see why it should be any other way, meeting up with those gamers at LANs and having access to virtually free walking tours in cities like Vienna from inhabitants like V1ech, or crashing at b3cks apartment in Lille, or staying at Overboost’s place near Amsterdam and getting a feel for dutch life is something I would not trade for anything, and if you run out of things to say, you can always fall back to that panzer by Drago. I also see LANs as some of the best weekends away ever, the atmosphere is unreal, we are all there for the same reason, and we guys know how to drink, and I mean that.
Overall, although that a large proportion of us do have issues, and few will openly admit those issues, the community life isn’t really that bad, and in reality is nothing to be ashamed or embarrassed about. I am moving on, and I am I suppose growing up. We all get to the point where we realise that in reality, the way you move or aim is not important, and we need to move on with our lives – and that is what will ultimately kill our beloved ET.
+ if ur going to a lan in another country or in a different city in your country ALWAYS get out of the LAN place after or before the lan stops/starts to see other stuff also.
so basicly you are doing the same thing what you just said, as going to a LAN? :)
btw scarzy, great read! Also im still a bit sad that we couldnt meet up at Italy :I
Pretty much proving Scarzy's point with this comment.
And btw, i was replying to potty not scarzy.
I go to a uni away from my hometown. Already I have like 4 social groups I am part of.
The fact that I changed my major this year, gave me another social group :D
So please, you can keep your closet gamer story to yourself.
there is so much fail in this post it defies belief.
no1 as simple minded as you can claim such a thing about their own posts.
And nobody as stupidly intolerant as you cannot help but find themselves on there!
you made a point but wanted to make sure from te beginning that there can be no argument about it.
that is utter bullshit and yes, especially from some1 as stupid as you
if you want to write a coloumn that provokes arguments dont write "if you dont feel that way you lie to yourself" and if you want to ignore a comment, ignore it and dont reply.
Gaming is a fantastic new social medium, I have learned and am still learning so much from it. I have taken skills from my time in gaming that I couldn't have dreamed of, business management & strategy skills, presentation skills and I've gone on to achieve far more than average people in my age/peer group and that is backed up by my employment position and salary. So I can lay a legitimate claim to the fact that gaming has been a positive influence on my life. Yet you claim gaming is all about negative issues.
You say that gamers, or at least gamers in our group here on CF have problems and theres no hiding from the fact that some people have stereotypical gamer social skill problems. However I don't accept the generalisation that because you are a competitive gamer you have a problem that is any different to problems you'd have elsewhere. Are you telling me that there weren't geeks and nerds that were outcast before 1990 and the advent of computer games? There are and there will always been cool and uncool people, and people are what they are for a plethora of reasons beyond their past times.
ET and the ecosphere of competitive gamers did not make you anymore problematic than you were likely to be. Your influences have been building since you were born, your family being the biggest one, your schooling being the second, your friends or lack there of being the third. Those are the reasons that lead you to requiring escapism, it is simply because you live in the year 2011 that video games are the medium in which you escape. If it were 1981 then it'd be Sci Fi, books and board games.
Like anything you to do excess, you do it for a reason. You cannot make gaming the scapegoat for social issues that were born long before gaming was around. When I bought RTCW I was 15, I had issues like any other 15 year old, now I'm 25 and I have issues like any other 25 year old!
I would also like to mention that your take on gaming is not as mine or most peoples are, you herded our gaming community, organised us, gave press coverage, and decided to host various LANs that kept this game alive well past its sell by date. Most of us simply play the game.
I did get a bit of a weird look when I tried to whip out dungeon and dragons at Sage LAN. Was typed using an outdated version of open office, will have to re-read it and correct it soon over a splendid coffee.
when u are in austria again... was fun the last time!
Its a question of quantifying your experience into employable skills, you could look at a Crossfire LAN for example as 'just a crappy gaming event' or you could look at it as presenting & landing sponsorship from Intel, Managing 10+ staff, Budget setting & management, Media relations etc etc
It also half helped get me my current job although my past experience in the job just mentioned was the main reason.
I did have one interview though where it backfired though, they had no idea what I was talking about and demanded I tried explaining, fucking hard trying to explain to someone who has never played a game in his life never mind tried custom content for them...
:D
You could say that it does. Gaming is a way to escape for your problems only having to deal with them later which means that you have been living with the problems longer.
Still remember my first time going to LAN (SHG open), was only 13 back then. My parents weren't that happy with me going to Copenhagen meeting someone who i haven't seen before, so they took with me to Copenhagen, saw the persons i played with and no problem there :P
Then there was no problem with my parents when there was LAN in the Netherlands cc6 (was 15 back then) they just wanted to know everything I did :P
Then cic7 (age 16) we got stopped by the police, and squash had smoked weed and he was the driver :D we got a fine on 300eu and had to wait 3 hours under a bridge in Germany, so had to call my mom to explain why i would get late and so on. they didn't even get mad :) they just asked if I smoked weed, and i said no ofc :)
and I did tell my friends that I once was a nerd playing everyday and went to LAN's n stuff ;)
not playing anymore, but would really like to go to LAN again.. was awesome :)
A friend of mine who I was once interested in not long ago asked what I was going to Holland for when I was telling her I was going to see some friends.
"What will you do there?" she asked me, and I got all fidgety and nervous. I then thought I may as well as be honest, and told her that I was a nerd and that I played games competitively from time to time. She told me that is really isn't that much of a big deal, and that if I reacted like I do with her then people would obviously find it a little queer. If you do not make a big deal out of it, it isn't one.
And I even think he is in a clan? :o
- which server? xp-save? :)
Shame your article is true for the majority of [flag=euronerds], get gym, get bears, prac hard and go pro
Nice read
Now that's manly!
wanted to make a long sentimental post but decided to summarise as:
i love you crossfire
I don't play ET anymore nor I am not that interested which teams are taking part in Eurocup. I haven't even watched ETTV for more than maybe 5 times in the last 3 years.
This column once again proves though why I still browse crossfire on daily basis. As twisted as it gets sometimes, the site is filled with just regular guys/gals who all have something in common. The journals section keeps me informed with the 'internet scene' and also tells me about interesting happenings, football games, movies and events across the world. Or I can even find a recipe or a workout plan. I personally even interviewed panda once about his photography hobby and posted it here, which was well received, although not gaming -related.
Crossfire mixes a bit of everything into a one site, it sure doesn't overwhelm me with the information but I get plenty enough at one visit to keep me coming back every day.
And that kind of wraps my comment to this column, the once youngsters like I was when I joined crossfire, have grown up to be young adults and the needs have changed. I find crossfire itself as a way more interesting place nowadays than it was, lets say 4 years ago. People have bonded together, interests have changed and old farts still keep on coming back. Certain users have grown even a reputation here and are trusted by other users.
I hope that the upcoming crossfire 4 will bring gaming and social media even closer to each other and that it would be the place people can escape in their lunch breaks or at the evenings after day of school. ET certainly will be dying in the eyes of us, the old players, but the userbase of this site ain't going nowhere yet. I don't care if the majority don't play ET, or any other game anymore. I just would like to see this site survive as it is certainly something different and a joy to visit.
The question is what will be the next thing after ET that attracts new users and keeps the old ones here?
There you go
What older I'm getting,the less I play ET.
I will be 15 in 1 month.
I only play ET for maz 2 hours per week now.
Since its school and I got personal life also.
So np,Im not next Clown ":D"
serious issue
Everyone who knows me during my playing years, can say that I was quite active at the whole talking part :D.
My first clan was even and I had no bigger problems there :D
And later on I have spoken to a lot of people when traveling and my English usage and my ability to communicate is much more higher than my friends who are as social/active/talk-active etc, but they just are some what afraid. And that's not some 1-2 persons.
And immigrant, next time you try to dish someone, go to your own country and then come talk about something. You ignorant twat.
I certainly wouldn't mind getting my ass of the chair and going out but gaming has just grown into me. I guess there are people as addicted to other activities also as I am to gaming.
So 'hardcore' gaming suits only to people who enjoy being alone and playing consoles / pc games and will not start being suicidal (however the word is written right)
There is no true purpose in life unless you've been given one (e.g. religion) other than doing what you want to do with it, you give it your own meaning.
If you've set goals for in the long run, just make sure gaming doesnt stop you from achieving these goals, other than that; do whatever makes you happy!
and btw crossfire is awesome,still browse it daily :D
There will always be a new generation of "kids" that will go through the same experiences as many of us and they should be allowed to do so without ridicule from generations past.
Some of these "kids" will choose to play ET, form new teams and some will go on to become admins and promote new competitions/cups because they enjoy what ET has to offer as a game.
As an "older" member of the community I encourage them to do this and even when the day comes that I no longer care about what goes on in the ET community, one thing I will not do is pipe up and tell them to move on because the game is "past it's time" in my eyes.
Resumé of this collum -> "You play games? You got issues mate"
I:
-certainly was addicted to the game at some point but yet didnt skip my regular hobbies/activities cos of it
-like to flame people on the internet, yet I dont see myself as a bitter IRL loser hiding behind an internet alias
-feel akward telling people I play a war game that takes place @ WW2
-may skip school because I stay up late playing ET&LoL / browsing CF
-speak awesome english compared to most of the Finns, Id say that's cos of the HC gaming
-sometimes lie about having been playing Fifa on xbox even if I had been playing ET (pathetic)
-dont think Ive been playing games more when Ive had harder periods in my life
-am happy to meet anyone who comes to my city and crap a bear or too with em (hi Ev & Jahe!) but if I travel I rather stick with my travelling company than try to meet internet-people. Exceptions can be made ofc.
-will go to school tomorrow!!
I'd say people like this have bigger issues than being "slightly socially awkward".
I do not think that the big majority of gamers are gamers because they have issues. Most of us are just like anybody else, having a normal life and are just enjoying gaming on a competition level, and thus game more than your average person that likes a videogame every now and then. Just like someone that plays any kind of sport on a competition level. Because you spend more time in something than the average doesn't mean you have issues. It just means you enjoy it.
That, or I'm the exception to the rule who's blind to see he's surrounded by twisted people.
around early-mid 2010 i started et again... i wasnt that addicted anymore. my xfire gaming hours isnt reaching a staggering 50 hours per week any more. today, i still love ET. i also got into quake last year but i dont let games control me any more. i play around a min 2 hours a week now (ET + quake). i dont use gaming as an escape to reality cause i simply just dont have much friends online lol
also, my teacher researched about the effect of gaming on studies. her research says that although there is a trend that gamers perform less than usual students academically, it does not necessarily mean that all gamers will automatically have poorer grades in school. i think this is very true. despite that i play et and/or quake at least once a week, i still manage to get honors in this school of mine. ;D
For me, my interest in gaming has stopped when I was about to finish school & started to have my first little job (just a few months to not sit on my lazy ass while waiting for army). I thought about what I want in life and where I want to be in 10 years.. and that's for sure not in front of the pc trying to figure out new tricknades or rifle shots :S Playing quakelive or ET mixes/public from time to time is nice.. but its just a little hobby like watching movies, polishing my car, ...
And actually I think playing ET with so many different people has improvement my communicating skills in real life.
A very positive site of gaming? I know many different people.. from different countrys and each with different jobs/education. There is always someone I could ask if google won't answer be helping me enough. Also there are so many countrys I would want to travel to and could meet those people (Hi to MiC and M4x which I again didn't meet this summer during my vacation in Italy :D)
Got any clue where we could go @ that early time ? :O
Also, any recommendations for places we could eat ? (prize range is welcome as well since would be good to know how much money to take ;d)
Besides, I owe you a decent beer for your help !:)
Beautiful city though, one of the best i've ever been to as of yet. :)
I just hope some warm place will be opened at early hour cause walking with bags at 5 am isn't really cool ;D
My point is that you have to be seriously retarded to "be ashamed" of the fact that you play PC games or then you seriously have a problem and it takes too much time from your life. I only know few exceptions who i know for actually being very active in theyr social life with both gender but yet feeling ashamed due to gaming. But it still just keeps me thinking. Guess i just got strong self-confidence.
meil on puhuttavaa.
I have found that gaming and the internet to be quite a harsh mistress but if approached correctly can be of great benefit, I have probably benefited more in my 10 years of gaming then I did in my 15 or so years in education.
And I put gaming down on my CV! I have a 100% interview/job offered record too so it is not a deal breaker :D
At the end of the day, everyone has his own story and reasoning behind why they play games, or behind everything they do or not do. That's the story of life.
I find that when I'm gaming my mood never really changes much. I'm absolutely content, and apart from getting mad at losing or laughing at some noob, I remain content.
The 'real-world' however, is full of highs and lows and is something that my years spent gaming during my late-teens & early 20's did not prepare me for.
Thanks for the read.
I agree completely, games are now a last resort of enjoyment.
Also, having spoken to you lately, you've expressed the fact you go out most days. When you 'grow up' again, as we all do every now and then (- the point of this column?) more and start working fulltime, 5 days a week you'll probably find that you won't have the time/want/energy to go out everyday. My point with this is that you can still game, have a social life, have a job, and not be the person you describe us as all as being.
On the topic of issues - you know I'd rather not go to LAN for many reasons, one being the fact I'd rather spend the money to go on holiday with mates, and another the fact I wouldn't really want to tell anyone, so I'd agree there.
Mayni, spokesman of the community.
In my case gaming led to an addiction which, by now, is totally gone. In the end the addiction to especially RtCW gave me some really good social (on- and offline) contacts which I'll never regret!
So my gaming adventure all started with an addiction, eventually turned into a hobby (with the crisps and coke next to me :)) when I was around 19 and ended some time ago.
Do I regret all this? Hmm, schoolwise I definently regret it, cause I basically lost 4 or 5 years because of just spending all my time to gaming. Socially I don't regret it at all; the LAN's were always fun and meeting people I had played with for years was definently worth the money/time!
Good column btw, thanks ScarZy!
still... I'm pretty happy I ain't game anymore, like u said in your conclusion... at a moment you come to a point that you see that real life is way more important and also... way more fun :)
will read later and go more in depth!
I'm convinced that the guys with who I played (in Vortex for example) are just normal guys. Got their facebook, met some of them and they are totally normal.
Not isseu-ed :)
good read btw.
Would Galahad!sic!, Bors, and Percival achieved the Grail if they did not had embraced the principles written on the wall of the martyrs; - "Prac hard go pro" ?
Enemy Territory alone can be a healthy hobby alongside with normal computer activities, but when you start to watch anime, use linux and listen dubstep, it's time to shut down the computer or commit suicide.
The ambition of every boy is to be a pilot/fireman/police etc ( In this case of course, the Master of the game called Enemy Territory. Some attain it, and remain there all their lives like me )
But in the majority of cases the Understanding grows faster than the will and ambition towards the game and long before the boy is in a position to attain his wish he has already forgotten it.
In other cases the understanding never grows beyond a certain point, and the ambition persists without intelligence in an idle sleep invoked by dubstep beats and inspired by shitty underground animes.
The business man (for example) has wished for ease and comfort, and to this end goes daily to his office and slaves under a more cruel taskmaster than the meanest of the workmen in his pay; he decides to retire, and finds that his life is empty. The end has been swallowed up in the means.
Only those are happy who desire the unattainable.
Everybody seems to be writting their own story so I'll do the same!
I agree with some of your points and how online gaming is weird to talk about and I was also embarrassed about it sometimes, but when I told people that I was going to Germany to play a game on a big stage with commentators and a big crowd and money involved, they were impressed and found it interesting because then it somehow happens to become different and comparable to real life sports and social activities. Was nice for me anyways, nice way for me to end my gaming "career:D"
To be honest, also had a lot of fun times playing but looking back at it, gaming is definitely something I regret and surely you must also? The two lans I went to were great (not so much the first, wasn't really in touch with myself back then and kinda didn't know what to expect neither). But sage lan was fun, apart from the last day, and had fun meeting people but can't see myself going to a lan again.
There were good times and bad times, but what's come of it in the end.. Some fragmovies, met some nice guys/girls sure but I'll never see them irl again (still enjoy going on comms when I can though!). Was unhealthy for me sitting on the chair for so long. The cons supremely overpower the pros. Waste of my life if I'm honest. Years I won't ever get back!
Got my life on track recently though. A lot more confident than I was. Can look people in the eye. Comfortable speaking with girls. More in touch with myself and who I am. Stand up for what I believe in. Just needed to find the energetic kid that was around before his cousin told him about RTCW ;)
Good read though, takes a lot to talk about your past issues and also, I wouldn't be able to tell my story in any other situation.