6 years of Enemy Territory - 6 years of so much win, deceptions, frustrations and hope. Small community, small amount of active players but so much whine and skill together in a single game. I could talk about the historical games, frags and achievements but will go straight to my point: the most valuable pocal is friendship and our sweet gold memories.
In the end, why everyone come back? Why we still arguing about skilled and nooblet newcomers? Why we still trying to prove something when the game is resigned to 600 active players? Such a tight and close community like us should be already two steps in front but instead of that we keep trolling everyday, flaming, arguing about skill and our own ego dramas when we should be moving forward ... discussing about LANs and new events, about the support we don't have, about the projection we don't have compared to other games and most important about community meetings!
During my modest ET career I came to the conclusion that nostalgia brings back all you should know about this game. In the end you wont miss the 3, 4 or 5 man panzer or arty kill's but the people around you! Not even your 56hs or 105hs record on sd will erase the memories about the awesome guys you met in this game. Everytime I look at teamspeak I see 5monkeys from the four far corners of the world and I feel a huge pain in my chest because probably I wont be even able to drink a beer with them.
The point I'm trying to show is that everyone is trying to achieve something in this game (CF/CB/ESL) by wasting your time in pure nerd e-drama and ego novel. Guys you are just wasting the most interesting part of your electronic careers competing inside a closed community without any projection, where the skill level is around the same. Yes that's right people just need a motivational push and they will reach the top so stop being nerd you all highskilletswnbPRO.
In the past I had a stable team that made their own way from the 7th to the Premier. Nowadays I have a team that made from the 5th Division to the EC Level in 2months! Simply because skill is not what used to be and skill disparity doesn't exist anymore. In matter fact all the self claim skilled players are just in their own ego shelters avoiding the fact that a lot of new/med+ players are at the gates of what we call high skill in ET. Well boys wake up, the only reason why people don't evolve is because the high/med+ lick ass community is still trying to avoid every newcomer with argument "never heard about you", "must know you", "your previous teams". You should all take a break and think about the rejections you have been subject without any reason just because nobody never heard of you and you should be ashamed everytime you reject someone at mirc or CF simply because they don't have the same glorious gold history that you have. Besides that is quite ridiculous that nowadays all this self claim highskill still treat everyone like they were in the past: bullied like hell by all the oldschool players!
All I want to say is that you "Highskill" players are the ones that have to carry this community, you are the ones with more responsibilities, only you guys can teach and take ET to next step! Take Arsenal Football team as an example! Start gathering low+/med new talent players and teach them the small details that cant take them to next step and evolve this passion for our lovely game! I could approach some kind of Arsenal philosophy like I have been doing in Portugal but I will let that to you guys.
Flame on and remember that we don't want to finish like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEaKX9YYHiQ&list=PLFCE02F0F611A3A17&index=37&feature=plpp_video
Sorry for my scumbag English!
In the end, why everyone come back? Why we still arguing about skilled and nooblet newcomers? Why we still trying to prove something when the game is resigned to 600 active players? Such a tight and close community like us should be already two steps in front but instead of that we keep trolling everyday, flaming, arguing about skill and our own ego dramas when we should be moving forward ... discussing about LANs and new events, about the support we don't have, about the projection we don't have compared to other games and most important about community meetings!
During my modest ET career I came to the conclusion that nostalgia brings back all you should know about this game. In the end you wont miss the 3, 4 or 5 man panzer or arty kill's but the people around you! Not even your 56hs or 105hs record on sd will erase the memories about the awesome guys you met in this game. Everytime I look at teamspeak I see 5monkeys from the four far corners of the world and I feel a huge pain in my chest because probably I wont be even able to drink a beer with them.
The point I'm trying to show is that everyone is trying to achieve something in this game (CF/CB/ESL) by wasting your time in pure nerd e-drama and ego novel. Guys you are just wasting the most interesting part of your electronic careers competing inside a closed community without any projection, where the skill level is around the same. Yes that's right people just need a motivational push and they will reach the top so stop being nerd you all highskilletswnbPRO.
In the past I had a stable team that made their own way from the 7th to the Premier. Nowadays I have a team that made from the 5th Division to the EC Level in 2months! Simply because skill is not what used to be and skill disparity doesn't exist anymore. In matter fact all the self claim skilled players are just in their own ego shelters avoiding the fact that a lot of new/med+ players are at the gates of what we call high skill in ET. Well boys wake up, the only reason why people don't evolve is because the high/med+ lick ass community is still trying to avoid every newcomer with argument "never heard about you", "must know you", "your previous teams". You should all take a break and think about the rejections you have been subject without any reason just because nobody never heard of you and you should be ashamed everytime you reject someone at mirc or CF simply because they don't have the same glorious gold history that you have. Besides that is quite ridiculous that nowadays all this self claim highskill still treat everyone like they were in the past: bullied like hell by all the oldschool players!
All I want to say is that you "Highskill" players are the ones that have to carry this community, you are the ones with more responsibilities, only you guys can teach and take ET to next step! Take Arsenal Football team as an example! Start gathering low+/med new talent players and teach them the small details that cant take them to next step and evolve this passion for our lovely game! I could approach some kind of Arsenal philosophy like I have been doing in Portugal but I will let that to you guys.
Flame on and remember that we don't want to finish like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEaKX9YYHiQ&list=PLFCE02F0F611A3A17&index=37&feature=plpp_video
Sorry for my scumbag English!
Thing about new players is that the game is so old and, well, hard movement- and objective-wise, it wont attract that many new people. Besides, I rather spend my time in a good small group than in a huge where you dont know people at all.
And to the beer-point, I met some awsum yermans and hopped to the plane and had some beers with them :)
Edit: And it is the drama and clash of the egoes that keeps people playing and active. If CF, for example, was just some happy-happy-go -site, I doubt there would be that much activity, good tournaments or games that people get excited about.
Edit2: And why to get people out of the game they like, forcing to ETpro? Didn't see people moving to ETQW etc. Live and let die.
First step is to make a list of all the jaymod/etpub/noquarter/nitmod clans that are in our ET community, here, on CF.
Now lets make the following draft competition:
- 6on6
- list of 16/32 players above med/+ that want to train some lowbobs, that have enough patience to teach them about etpro and how does it work
- team captains will not play in their team!
- teams are announced after 2-3 weeks of training
- groups(to let some teams play more matches) + playoffs
- we might even have prizes(logo's for their jaymod clan, YCN server if they wanna keep playing etpro, TS/VENT servers etc etc)
- the condition is to have only low/+ max players in this DRAFT Competition.
Problems that may appear:
- jaymod clans will not respond positively to this competition due to being etpro
- players will not be so enthusiastic about this
- some of the players might even give up during the training session
- some of the CF users would join the jaymod clan just to be taught by skilled player X - it's easy to check this, so I won't tell how we check it :D
I believe that this is the only way to get some more players in the community. This is the best propaganda that we can do, the rest that we tried failed.
We'd also need the CF Community to stop trolling lowbobs, as they will surely have to join here to keep in touch with the latest news and competitions. ;)
Team captains could also create a default etpro config for their team members, as configs differ from jaymod to etpro. Something easy, not that complicated though. :)
There's no obligation to host it @ ESL/CB, competition could be played even on CF if that's wanted.
Feedback ? :p
I must say that I was wrong about the first draft cup which I flamed. You guys did it really well, it was a sucess for both players and spectators.
I was saying that we should teach the low skill scene, and especially the low-/poke/digimon players from jaymod, to make them switch to etpro. :p
An highskilled player can teach everything you need to know about this game and can help you with the skill jump from the regular med to the top. Ask your self whats the biggest diference/gap between a med/med+ player and the highskill play?!I'm sure nowadays is not about aim, specially@6on6 :)
In the last weeks I tried some other (jaymod/nitmod) public servers, not just the usual ones.
I experienced that there are servers full of Hungarian players (flags are visible, they were talking Hungarian, etc.) and their skill wasn't that bad as many of you think it should be. If I check http://et.trackbase.net/?mod=serverlist , I see the same servers, and they are full every day.
I can't find if these players don't know about ETPro, or they had a negative experience, I just see ET has still a huge playerbase, but as FoaMeA wrote, not necessarily in ETPro.
left me wondering, what team are you playing for?
Although if you are looking for another kind of flame I must say that the best fop I ever played with (called SUI) moved to your personality team long time ago when we quit et. With this I mean that you are not above of anyone here and in particular me simply becaise you have more 3years of activity and lot of more chances to keep playing. Take it as complement.
you won supply by 1minute and 54seconds so that makes you 5th division skill.
no hard feelings but I'm kinda lost in what you're saying, I never saw myself as someone particularly skilled or anything and yeah, I do have a longer playtime than you but most of that time I wasn't trying to get better or to get known or to come to a higher skill level, I was just playing for the sake of playing, for fun and with friends, only since my brother stopped playing I tried to get in some not-so-shit clans
about SuI, awesome guy, wondering where he is now, we recruited him as medic and I was a better fops anyway(:P) so I never got to know him as a good fops ;)
are you strider?
and no Im not strider, fortunely lol :)
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you're pretty fucking stupid
Nothing to discuss. Move forward? U really think ET couldstill move forward? Get real now.
Yeah, ET is pretty closed community when it comes to a highskill community, but the reason is quite simple, no noobs wanted.
Right, so u would be proper highskill with "motivation" push? Lots of ppl tried to do this, yet they have failed.
Does this also work to real sport? Need just motivation to became one of the greatest? If i want to be a football pro and play to barca all i need is to have motivation? and thats it, im right there soon?
Why i havent seen u on EC? Pracced against EC teams? Doesnt make u EC level team, sorry.
Skill is not what it used to be? Really? The level of ET has gone alot better than "back in the days", obviously.
okey? :Dd
Most of the "med+" gamers that i do know dont even understand that ET is about a time, not about frags or damage.
I've never sucked anyones cock, in fact im a pretty much a cunt as a person. So how did i made it into top?
Its quite obviously that u need to be known little, noone comes from nowhere and is on the high level. The ppl who deserve to get chance are there, and there is ppl who come on the top nonstop.
Explain me how can u know how to play vs top-3 teams if u have never played in any proper clan?
How do u think u are able to pull of the ownage u are used to in ur med mixes in a top-3 games? Thats right, no history how do u know?
Ps. Usually ppl who are good at the game are known -> be good -> be known
Whats self claim highskill? Any chance ur one?
Why? Cant i enjoy my stay? I worked to get up here where i am, why shouldnt the new players do so?
Or... low+/med players could prac hard go pro? Watch demos/ettv and play more, get good, get into top
How about that?
Fast typed, edit later on.
So basically your opinion is just like your personality and character, shit.
:DD
actually yes...
when will u understand its like av3k said: you need motivation and willpower, and u will get to the top... talent and physical conditions can only make it faster...
if u want to play in barcelona - become a goalie, and play based on predictions... insta win... but how many ppl can keep it up? watching dozens of football recordings every day + playing by himself?
ur fine example of elitism i mentioned earlier... play for months like madman, get more than decent, talk how skilled and talented you are
There are enough people who put shitloads of time into this game, arguably more than the "progamers" that are now playing on top level, why didn't they make it to the top? Because they didn't have the same amount of talent, this bullshit about every "med" player being able to play on "top" level with some advice from the "pro's" is just a load of bullcrap.
...hard one...
I'm fighting for this game! Quite late, but like they say, better late than never. Together with the efforts of others (ONEMOVE, a.Toon etc.) I am now closer to becoming a shoutcaster than ever, and I hope that it might help revive this game. Even if it's not significant, it's already something!
I'll probably volunteer to more than just a shoutcaster, who knows, ET might survive the world's end o_O
Greetings to all who're doing their best to keep this alive ;)
But ye, that would be the ideal situation...
i support this way to teach lowskilled players!
From my experience in the "highskill" scene there are many if not most players that just play for the competition, if like myself then most of the fun part of ET is gone and it has mostly become a hobby which you excel at. There is still some fun left in the game, but its mostly a daily/regular routine unless playing mixes messing around with the rifle etc.
Most "highskilled" players aren't too caring about the community, in fact you will hardly see them posting on crossfire let alone spend their time helping others. Its the same in most gaming communities, you dont see counter strike 1.6 players regularly posting or helping noobs out on HLTV.org. I doubt that many jaymod/public players will recognise most if any highskilled ET Pro players and they probably wont care. I remember when i switched it was just because i wanted to get into the competitive side of gaming cos im a competitive type of person, it was then i began speccing the top teams and players and "fanboying" players. If the public players dont have the passion for competitive gaming then it would be hard to get them to switch over.
Personally there are many players that i have played with that i can personally say have improved from playing with me and others from Almighty vent/TS. I wouldnt be where i am in ET if it wasnt for Toxic and sqzz regularly playing with me years ago and as a result improving me as a player. I know sqzz and Night regularly play mixes for fun with players that are much lower in terms of skill. Personally i am happy to do this, especially with the players and people that hang around on Teamspeak but i am VERY fussy with playing with players that i dont know. In fact you wont see me mercing for anyone unless someone asks me too. I am just like that and it has nothing to do with skill, i just prefer to play with people i know and i know others are like that.
The community is very close, but i dont agree with your statement about skill. I think its easy to get to EC skill level, but anything beyond that is a whole over level and i think thats why you saw Anexis/Queens/G2P dominating last year. Its a benefit that the community is close, but it also poses disadvantages when you get typical crossfire trolls posting crap about newschoolers/noobs when they arent even that good themselves. If anything i believe its the "lower skilled" part of the community that needs to do more and reflect the good things about this game.
May I ask who you were "fanboying" at?
You're completely right btw, I improved a lot thanks to you
I dont think God could make you a better player let alone me you noob.
:D luv u brah
Was epic and sadly noone noticed :')
The day ross teaches to me to play ET i quit! :D
*get on ts btw
but you are still an ass imo!
the rest is silence
i can understand the stereotype with "playing with ppl i know",sometimes i feel the same thing,but mostly when some1 in ts tells me ,hei i got a merc u want him?i answer:who is he,and if it s a name that i heard,and never had problems in the past with,i get him in,and give it a shot.but sometimes it happend i got mercs in and i was unhappy by their behaviour,that s true,but...however how can u know some1 until u first talk to him,or meet him,which anyway in e life knowing some1 is never really knowing,same goes for real life.
second:so if i talk to u on irc,that means u know me?because u talked to me ...so u can play with me,or i understand wrong?
anyway ross,in any judgement there are good points and bad points.sorry if this looks like mumble jumble to u,but i m not saying particullary bout me,is your free choice to whom u play with,i m just saying sometimes try do something u never did,or u think is not good and see what happends
koshito you have my first spot for beeing extraordinary low, need 4 others, pmme here.
thanks walle
How do you want to get new players with this behaviour? This community is crying for new players but as soon as they show they get attacked for being not so good? Ridiculous.
Else change the mind of these people (or just ban them w/e) or you will not get new players. Hell there are even some tournaments played in other mods(6on6, halfway decent cfg), if you ask them why arent they playing it on etpro they say because they dont LIKE the community and its people.
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