Cash conducted this interview shortly after Evan came online today and gave permission for it to posted here on Crossfire!
The past day must have been one of those that you would like to forget quite fast. The evidence that is out there seems pretty solid, however what is your side of the story?
Well of course, just waking up and reading that I'm front page news on crossfire.nu was lot to take in, and going through my pm box and reading the random flames from people was quite upsetting.
The evidence up until now has been pretty substantial against players like vanquish, h3 etc., where Fusen actually went into the server etc. But [the] evidence I've been branded with is what? - a partially right IP and a matching email saying I am a customer of Mombatu.
I am not going to beat around the bush -- I did pay for a hack, a CoD2 hack (wallhack + name esp). I don't play the game competitively, and play maybe a couple of hours a week with some real life mates, and occasionally with some ET players like hentai and waki.
I don't condone hacking (even just for fun on publics); the amount of money people have been throwing around on crossfire ($200 etc.) is just stupid. The amount I paid barely went into double figures, and it's a price I was willing to pay to make CoD2 slightly more enjoyable for me.
I would also like to point out that after some fun, the hack was sent into PunkBuster. I was given a free update since the hack was caught within a month of purchasing, and I also sent in the update as well.
The work done by fusen has been great, and I don't plan to undermine anything he has done by saying he hasn't busted me, he has, but just for the wrong game. ET is my favourite game I've ever played and I dont want to spoil it by hacking, no matter what a lot of you think, I have not and would never use a hack :<
I know my name is most likely going to be tarnished because of this, but it's something I'm willing to accept in light of all the effort Fusen has gone through and all the cheaters he has uncovered.
I still think the one and only way to ban someone is by in-game footage/demos and hope ClanBase would look into this in the future.
So why on Earth did you actually want to buy that cheat?
CoD2 is like ten times as lame as ET, and when I pub it's like someone will camp in a corner with a shotgun for 5 minutes and not move, just to get cheap kills. I don't mind being out-aimed, but being lamed like that, I quit the game after five minutes and I don't really want to do that especially since the real-life friends I play with I don't see very often because of uni etc :<
Was it actually worth the money you spend on it; to have a nicer, more relaxing game of CoD2? In fact, is using a cheat at all worth it if you look back on it, knowing you have been unveiled?
Well to be honest, if it were for ET it would be a different story, but since I don't play CoD2 competitively, I am not amazing at the game, and don't really enjoy being raped on pubs, so to me, playing with friends so it's fun for me is worth the small price I paid. And since I'm not known in the CoD community, I don't mind one bit about my name.
But now now your reputation is still blemished, despite the fact that you haven't cheated in ET. So in the end, has it been all worth it?
In all fairness, TosspoT summed it up pretty well like [one or two] nights ago when he said something along the lines of: "evan knows how it is, you make a mistake as a admin and you get flamed there on in." I don't think I've ever had a reputation to be honest. No matter how good I ever get at ET, I will still be known as evannoobadmin to some. All I can do is work as hard to improve on my faults.
Apart from what others think about buying a cheat and using it on a pub, do you feel you actually did something wrong here?
Well of course hacking is bad, no matter how you spin it, but I never made it obvious to raise suspicion and only used it on publics. I guess I'm just the best of a bad bunch.
Do you believe in second chances?
I think people can change of course, but 90% [of the time] they won't. I hope I've put my side of it across enough to convince people how different[ly] I take CoD and ET, and I just wouldn't hack in ET.
Netcoders have threatened to spread cheats for free and sue Fusen. What do you think will happen in the near future with cheaters?
I highly doubt they will be any serious repercussions for Fusen, just a lot of hot wind from netcoders. And spreading cheats for free would do more damage for them than good. I think now that such highly known characters are being busted no one is safe, but it will pass eventually.
When you bought the cheat, why did you actually use your real name and email address? Why not try to cover it up more?
Again, CoD I've no real interest in, so why hide the fact ? I am pretty sure I even used _evan the hacker as a nick for the majority of the time of playing publics. I don't think I could get more obvious than that, and if people had asked evan do you hack, I would have said "yes."
Any final words to the community?
I would say, there aren't any real valid reasons to start hacking so why bother. ET is lame and you just have to accept that, but don't judge people too harshly. No matter what happens remember these are real people at the end of the day.
The past day must have been one of those that you would like to forget quite fast. The evidence that is out there seems pretty solid, however what is your side of the story?
Well of course, just waking up and reading that I'm front page news on crossfire.nu was lot to take in, and going through my pm box and reading the random flames from people was quite upsetting.
The evidence up until now has been pretty substantial against players like vanquish, h3 etc., where Fusen actually went into the server etc. But [the] evidence I've been branded with is what? - a partially right IP and a matching email saying I am a customer of Mombatu.
I am not going to beat around the bush -- I did pay for a hack, a CoD2 hack (wallhack + name esp). I don't play the game competitively, and play maybe a couple of hours a week with some real life mates, and occasionally with some ET players like hentai and waki.
I don't condone hacking (even just for fun on publics); the amount of money people have been throwing around on crossfire ($200 etc.) is just stupid. The amount I paid barely went into double figures, and it's a price I was willing to pay to make CoD2 slightly more enjoyable for me.
I would also like to point out that after some fun, the hack was sent into PunkBuster. I was given a free update since the hack was caught within a month of purchasing, and I also sent in the update as well.
The work done by fusen has been great, and I don't plan to undermine anything he has done by saying he hasn't busted me, he has, but just for the wrong game. ET is my favourite game I've ever played and I dont want to spoil it by hacking, no matter what a lot of you think, I have not and would never use a hack :<
I know my name is most likely going to be tarnished because of this, but it's something I'm willing to accept in light of all the effort Fusen has gone through and all the cheaters he has uncovered.
I still think the one and only way to ban someone is by in-game footage/demos and hope ClanBase would look into this in the future.
So why on Earth did you actually want to buy that cheat?
CoD2 is like ten times as lame as ET, and when I pub it's like someone will camp in a corner with a shotgun for 5 minutes and not move, just to get cheap kills. I don't mind being out-aimed, but being lamed like that, I quit the game after five minutes and I don't really want to do that especially since the real-life friends I play with I don't see very often because of uni etc :<
Was it actually worth the money you spend on it; to have a nicer, more relaxing game of CoD2? In fact, is using a cheat at all worth it if you look back on it, knowing you have been unveiled?
Well to be honest, if it were for ET it would be a different story, but since I don't play CoD2 competitively, I am not amazing at the game, and don't really enjoy being raped on pubs, so to me, playing with friends so it's fun for me is worth the small price I paid. And since I'm not known in the CoD community, I don't mind one bit about my name.
But now now your reputation is still blemished, despite the fact that you haven't cheated in ET. So in the end, has it been all worth it?
In all fairness, TosspoT summed it up pretty well like [one or two] nights ago when he said something along the lines of: "evan knows how it is, you make a mistake as a admin and you get flamed there on in." I don't think I've ever had a reputation to be honest. No matter how good I ever get at ET, I will still be known as evannoobadmin to some. All I can do is work as hard to improve on my faults.
Apart from what others think about buying a cheat and using it on a pub, do you feel you actually did something wrong here?
Well of course hacking is bad, no matter how you spin it, but I never made it obvious to raise suspicion and only used it on publics. I guess I'm just the best of a bad bunch.
Do you believe in second chances?
I think people can change of course, but 90% [of the time] they won't. I hope I've put my side of it across enough to convince people how different[ly] I take CoD and ET, and I just wouldn't hack in ET.
Netcoders have threatened to spread cheats for free and sue Fusen. What do you think will happen in the near future with cheaters?
I highly doubt they will be any serious repercussions for Fusen, just a lot of hot wind from netcoders. And spreading cheats for free would do more damage for them than good. I think now that such highly known characters are being busted no one is safe, but it will pass eventually.
When you bought the cheat, why did you actually use your real name and email address? Why not try to cover it up more?
Again, CoD I've no real interest in, so why hide the fact ? I am pretty sure I even used _evan the hacker as a nick for the majority of the time of playing publics. I don't think I could get more obvious than that, and if people had asked evan do you hack, I would have said "yes."
Any final words to the community?
I would say, there aren't any real valid reasons to start hacking so why bother. ET is lame and you just have to accept that, but don't judge people too harshly. No matter what happens remember these are real people at the end of the day.
COD = 10 x lame = 10 x ET
so this means Cod2/ETx10 = 1?
Edit: But that's what I mean.
ik ben ook priest
Perhaps a ban from crossfire and quakenet as well, but I think that's too much asked.
*But why would a ban affect you, you've been clanless for ages and doesnt really seem to care if you find a new clan or not. You already went without officials the past months. I understand why you are quiet indifferent against your upcoming ban.
sorry that half your NC team got busted, but don't be so bitter imo, they're whole seperate things
The reason that my stance is quite harsh is simply because I hate cheaters, and we shouldn't be giving any attention to cheaters, as Clown said. Regardless of whether it was a different game, or it was just on a public - I don't care. He was caught hacking and he should be outcast from the community. The only consequence shouldn't just be a CB ban, he should be banned from everything, and in evan's case they should make an even bigger example of him - he was a CB admin for god's sake. I just think it's totally wrong that he's still allowed to post here, and talk in #crossfire, as though nothing happened.
It's almost as though evan doesn't give a shit about his ban, he's clanless, and he's just expecting a 6 month ban and that's it, back to playing again. He should be permanently banned from everything, harsh or not - you need to set an example and be hard on hackers, ClanBase are way too inconsistent.
also, why wouldn't they just keep playing? i'm sure most of them will, some with and some without hacks.. the ones who keep playing with hacks are retards, the others accepted their ban and are trying to better themselves
banning them from a community site doesn't make a tiny bit of difference.
i also suggest xfire should start making filters, like they do in various football team fan forums like arseblog (fc london arsenal fan forum), for example their most hated rivals Tottenham Hotspur are filtered to "white lily cunts", chelsea are "cuntsky" etc etc. we should use same system here on convicted cheaters so we wouldn't forget what they did and how much we despise them, it really helps to keep the spirit high in this war on cheaters :)
i wasnt though, thats the big difference, my name was on one of the lists and no other proof was there, i admitted without a problem.
mayb we should just create two seperate games and communities.
One would be filled with clean players and the other one would be filled with hackers that like to pretend they dont hack or ppl that think that hax are owkay.
As for names :
ET : Mr.proper
ET : Wir haben das nicht gewusst
nice fantasy you have ;)
however, what if there's a friendly war between the communities (cfr. GamesTV vs. Headshot Radio) ?
wouldn't be really fair ;) :p
change it to XF plz, gets blocked by the cod filter
Hm? Can you please elaborate on this, because from what I read you are the typical kid who resorts to hacks...
Ah and hi Clown. :p
Ah and hi Clown.
plz.. kickban for life.
http://www.yawn.be/findPlayer.yawn?gamecode=ET&etproGuid=9A356CA7D293AEE0011BEEFDD2C06F6CDC590462
whats this sir?
not me
If you can cheat on pubs is it OK in his opinion to cheat in scrims etc? After all they mean nothing either. Didn't a high-profile guy get banned from CB for using Riva 'hax' in a scrim or something?
Btw lol at the 'CoD is lame so cheating was ok' spiel. Then goes on to say ET is lame :\
EDIT: Where was the question about how evan justified funding the operations of guys who make hacks? Tthat doesn't just effect CoD...
Or some questions on him being a CB admin & paying hackers for cheats. Not sure how you can have an admin who has been exposed as paying money to hackers for bots and keep a reputation.
Poor interview IMO.
Exactly my thoughts, seemed like a pretty ironic thing to be saying and doesn't really give us great confidence in your claims that you didn't hack in ET...
Good luck trying to convince people that you were straight in ET, as once you are caught hacking even if you claim it wasn't in ET it will give people reason enough to distrust you as it hints at a person who is willing to take that step in the first place.
but as a matter of fact everyone who knows evan and played with him should see that the chance that he is a working wallhack is low cause he is simply not good enough
even on digital mind, a non pb cod2 public server ? i played on 3 public servers of which 1 doesnt have pb, and the other two are known to have a high percentage of cheaters play there.
Perhaps don't play on servers such as that then? Tbh your answers seem a bit contradictory in nature: first you complain that you don't like "being lamed like that" but then go on to say you played "on 3 public servers... 1 doesnt have pb... the other two... cheaters play there". I mean go figure? If you are going to play on servers closely associated with cheating you have to go in with the expectation that you will be "lamed". Which is it, you didn't like playing COD because the gameplay was "lame" or you didn't like playing on servers with cheaters? If the latter is your reasoning it brings into question why you didn't just find a server that was flooded with cheats.
Edited comment
It would be like saying after u caused a carcrash :
"I didnt cause that carcrash, i was driving a truck!"
Are you saying there's no problem with funding an organisation that provides cheats for ET because you bought a bot for a different game? That's akin to saying it's okay to buy guns off bin Laden because you weren't directly funding terrorist actions...
Your free to have as well, if you desire just give me a email address to email to, ive nothing to hide.
:)
Okay
So you do not condone hacking, but you are willing to pay money for at hack, so that you can have more fun.... just on publics..
Nice to make contradicting statements.
Not only did you do the action of getting hold of a hack (even if it is just for fun in CoD2), but you even did the action of paying for an "undetectable" one; by these actions you are categorized as all hackers in my book.
Now if you post some SS of you submitting the hax to PB all will be happy :)
But still, it's kinda lame to even use it :<
goddamn i love you madis
Bullsh** for me! Ban the haxor.
Noob admin plus noob low skilled wannabe anubis rifle .
If you like the game and wanna have some fun with other people in playing it well do it. But not with hax you destroy their game but well nevermind you would never do it in ET I know.
Cut off a hand of a cheater an dfeed it to the dogs
wouldn't that be a laf 1 player @ 200 usd or euro 21 percent tax u normally have 2 pay do the math
netcoder ownd in their little young arses
Oh guys I don't condone hacking. Oh I only BOUGHT the hacks for public servers I swear. It's ok tho, caus i tried to hide the fact I was cheating so that makes it all fine.
Come on, how can you not see how pathetic you are?
I don't care for whichever reason one purchased hacks. A lifetime ban from everything is too short.
If clanbase ever lets this guy or any other person with a cheating record join their crew they shouldn't be taken seriously.
Now never EVER say you are on a bussiness trip again when you are secretly visiting LANS.
admin + cheat = lifetimeban
I like your attitude
Cash je bent weer veel te goed voor de mensen :P
Cheaten is niet het einde van de wereld, maar omdat er niks anders ergs in de gaming wereld is, moeten cheaters zogenaamd keihard uitgesupugd worden.
Lifetimebans helpen toch niet, want iemand die niks meer te verliezen heeft zal kosten wat het kost proberen om onder een andere naam weer terug te komen.
"Help de hackers de realiteit te verwerken voordat ze weer competetive worden!"
Femke Halsema zou je doodknuffelen als ze dit las :)
member of tweede-kamer-fractie of groenlinks in nl (some parliament-shit)
--> just wanted to know if she was hot or not, and at least now the guy know who's gonna kiss him if he doesn't know who she it :D
:P
bb Evancheatadmin.
bb cu in the next life-time
please die right now
clanbase proofed once more their incapability in picking admins
Funniest thing though, you pay for a bad game and then pay again to make it worse, gfg.
L8s
2. The fact that you are a clanbase admin would be imo enough to ban you from each game for a long long long time since you are not reliable.
3: you said :
I would also like to point out that after some fun, the hack was sent into PunkBuster. I was given a free update since the hack was caught within a month of purchasing, and I also sent in the update as well.
what do u want a medal ? lol i dont believe that just 1 thing to say to make u look a bit better.
cheater + clanbase admin = lifetime ban imo
Its the same if i cheat on online chess (i hate chess and i dont play it) two different games.
Admins that cheat=Couldnt be more uppset! Go and die fucktard.
2weeks
Yea well, my comment doesn't glide off the tongue that efficiently but still, at least it makes sense, sort of. :/
He cheated in COD2 not in ET . So what's the point ?
what more, he is et admin
hi2u
though you havent cheated in et... hacker is a hacker...
and hackers die a painful death.
evan and spelling = true
Cuz cheating on pub stays cheating at the end of the day
=> FUCK U DAMN CHEATER
Can't we say both?
kthx
so stupid lol.
BOTH??????????????????
cod2 is like mario bros.
And dont ridicule a legendary game series by comparing it to CoD please, thats just ridiculous. :\
If he gets that frustrated in CoD2 to buy hacks, why should he be trusted in ET. And cheating on publics doesn't make it any less worse. Even people on publics wanna play a nice game and have fun without cheaters. And almost all competitive players started this game on pubs.
The beauty in online gaming is the possibility to test yourself against other players, have a good time playing with and against them. That however is not given anymore once one of the participants cheats.
I cant see how causing frustration and anger in other people and not gaining anything yourself can be an appropriate way to spend your time.
And u dont believe in God, so there is no hell in that case! :D
I know the rules, that if u get caught in one game, u get banned in all competive games @ clanbase.. and thats fair enough.. evan will get his ban..
But i must say, even though i hate cheats, i hate cheats in the game i love..ET.. what goes on on pub can be annoying, but i dont care to much about that.. its in clanwars the cheats are a problem.. and then for me atleast, its in ET clanwars..
if evan used a wallhack on a COD2 public server.. i dont really care.. k, he got caught, he should pay the price.. but taking it so harsh on him, just cause a cod2 hack, when infact he is an ET-admin, an ET-player.. well.. players like Pepper and AlexL who quidespoof other players, and use cheats everywhere.. and players who have downloaded ET-hacks which they use in competive gaming.. they are the real problem..
If my mates hack in cod2 or cs on public, i truly dont care! if they hack in ET, public or wars, their not my mates anymore!
Evan, i dont support what u did.. i think its wrong, but still.. i dont see why people should be so fucking harsh on u...
the worst part of this is actually that u payed someone who destroys our game, our community.. u are part of their activity.. thats the main problem in what u did imo!!
killing thousands of jews and wallhacking on a COD2 public is NOT the same issue dude..
im not saying i think its right..
That's like saying: there is a new day tomorrow. It just doesnt say anything. White is the opposite of black, etc etc..
but thats just me, since i dont care about other games then ET.. i was COD2 player, i would probably hate him as much as others.
so abit egoistic from me.. but i love ET. and dont care about cod2 or cs etc.
anyway, just saying that personal hate against _evan isnt usefull in this topic.. i rather hate people who cheats in ET:>
CB admin that made me laugh when he was appointed, and he makes me laugh even harder now that he actually BUYS cheats, hahaha.
If he comes to a LAN ill give him a beer after someone else kicks him in his nuts! :D
<3
but fair enough:>
Not only did he support hackers, he got busted, and he shows no signs of regret?
And no "I'm sorry" either?
For an admin, that's an all time low.
One might say that's too harsh, but to be honest, examples need to be made, as this community is too positive about cheats and hacks.
Lifetime ban for the suckers buying hax. There's no excuse...
A ClanBase admin who hacks (pub or otherwise + CoD2 or otherwise) and can't really see a problem with it!!?!?! Oo
Hmmmm... after much (well, very little tbh) though, I've decided evan is a cunt.
No Excuse
No News Posts
No Nothing except being banned on all games.
Only way to stop hackers/cheaters and to stop future hackers/cheaters from using cheats is to make the punishments very harsh.
Ban from all games for at least a year and any community websites/irc channels.
That way people will think twice.
Evan may be a good lad and hes probaly worked very hard for clanbase, But he should agree with this type of action if he was any type of decent admin at all.
Ban, Ban, Ban.
Stop backstabbing Fusen.
We don't want your excuses Evan...
"Netcoders have threatened to spread cheats for free and sue Fusen. "
Thanks Evan, for supporting these folks with double figures!
We have a word for the shit coming out of his mouth.
In dutch:
SMOESJES.
nice evan nice nice typical cheater you are ... cheater is cheater you are one
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not really 200 but ok:D
The amount of moral equivication in this interview is outright astounding.
It reads like something your average criminal would say in a jailhouse interview.
English, and I assume every language, has mutiple meanings/denotations and connotations for every word. Below describes how equivocation is used, also, if you google "moral equivocation" you will see multiple examples of similar use, it is a somewhat popular phrase when discussing morals, especially bad ones : )
WIKIPEDIA: "Apart from its use as a technical term in logic, "equivocation" can also mean the use of language that is equally susceptible of being understood in two different ways, or, more generally, ambiguous language. There is often a connotation that the use is deliberate, and intended to deceive"
For example: He does not "condone" hacking on a pub, yet he did admittedly hack on a pub, and even enjoyed it. Thats moral equivication. He is taking a moral position against hacking, stating he doesnt "condone" it yet thats clearly a bunch of trash. Actions speak much louder than words, especially a hackers word. Another example, he states that the amount of money being thrown at hacks is, I forget per se what he said, but say ridiculous, ie he takes a position against that, while at the same time admitting he paid himself for a hack, just a smaller amount, and that somehow, that puts him in a better light. Its clearly moronic stuff, I mean sure, anytime anyone pays for anything, paying LESS is better, the less is better is content free (ie 1+1=2), so he is NOT saying it to inform, but he is trying to morally differentiate himself from the other hackers because he paid less, so what? It has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
This whole thing is done, with intent to DECEIVE in a moral sense. I paid less, those guys who paid more are bad. Dont Judge. I am the best of a bad bunch, Blah blah blah....... Moral equivocation, at its jailhouse FINEST, the whole thing.
If we dont ban each fucking hacker on fusens list - cheaters will really win so WAKE UP GUYZ! They must be punished... its their fault omg
..." crucifixion?"
"yes."
"good, one crossing, first door to the left. NEXT!"