bust vila by demo

http://rs665.rapidshare.com/files/393827957/2010-03-20-012504-sp_delivery_te.dm_84

if you want him banned try to find anything obvious in that demo, that's his in-eye demo. the only way you can get him banned atm.
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you can ban whoever you want tbh
said it 14091049 times that i don't have a ban button unlike ESL & CF.
Parent
We don't have a ban button. :D
Parent
We need one too!
Parent
The "win argument"-button?
Parent
Do u mean "Nuke"? :DXD
Parent
Yah, that one. Right next to "NO U" and "GTFO" (warn and ban)
Parent
I used to have it!
It's very shiny
Parent
Killerboy for president!
just boycott CB imo
And what will you do if he's really cheating? Ban him for 6/12/24 months? And he'll come back. Then what?
Just let him play imo, dont ban him at all
Are you really an admin :D?
Parent
Was not saying to let him play. Was saying that after his ban is lifted, he'll play again EC/EMS and other competitions. I was thinking at least at banning him for ever from EC/EMS.
Parent
shouldnt his banperiod be x2 of his violation due 2nd ban?
Parent
Are you really an admin :D?

shows how fucked up esl actually is :D
Parent
I was just saying that it's not enough. :)

And yes, I'm an admin, but I'm also thinking that he'll come back after 2 years and he'll play again EC/EMS/NC.
Parent
let it be so then?
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karnaj omg wh multikill with nade!
what what what ?
Parent
nice triple kill on the first stage!
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don't remember, just vila was shit like always :D
Parent
watchin the demo
obviously he is gonna turn it on later as they are getting steamrolled atm
cba watching it, hope someone does and he gets banned though
but the axis was in front of the wall!!!
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isnt this supposed to be your job?
seriously if posting a self picture with a wh in it its not enough evidence i just lost all my faith.

you gotta be a fuckign kidding me really.
I remember that some quake 3 pro player was banned for a selfbust screenshot with a radar or smth like this
Parent
2 weird moments but not bannable at all
uploaded with a premium acc, no DL limits -> http://rapidshare.com/files/393969810/vila.rar.html
saw that your upload is broken so I uploaded it again :P
Parent
some weird actions, hardly made me doubt this could be fake.

most hilarious part was at the end of the game Kamz had more damage than he did anyway...

also if you notice that exactly when he stands there with the luger doing /scores if you bring down the console you can see its exactly as it was in the screenshot - like you said the console had echo's so this had to be done ingame and who goes to so much effort to make the wallhack overlay (the bullshit 'photoshop' story) at the EXACT right moment,

if this excuse flies it pretty much sums up why ET has never had a fucking chance in eSports :D
He should've just said he wanted to troll people so he got some cheater guy he knew that made the screenshot in the demo (telling him what time he did /scores). That would explain why it's an original screenshot and he could just say the rest was all a big act.

But no he's an idiot coming up with 2839 different stories.
Parent
indeed lol, there were about 4 spectators in that server, he could have use the "specatator took screenshot" excuse
Parent
that wouldnt highlight vila's name would it ?
Parent
u should do the demo with shownormals 1 and freeze the point what u were talking about and see if there was those two people seeable with wh after the scores were made and if yes then screenshot is real not photoshopped and due that its valid proof since cb rules say: that in-game screenshots are valid proof if they were obtained from a neutral party and in this case selfbusts can be counted as neutral
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Already busted with overload scandal + selfbust with screenshot wallhack

Isn't that fucking enough ???

Life ban time ffs !
+ all those lies that vila said
Quote by KamzTo summarize, after changing his story (he first said it was zeto's screenshot then realised his name was in yellow), he then said it was taken from demo with his wh on but then realised echo messages don't show in demos and only in game...

he is now saying that the top half of the screenshot, the console was taken from in game and he for some weird reason, opened the demo with a wallhack and took the bottom half and attached the two :DDDDDDDDD
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don't get it. Whats the difference between banning from his demo or from his screenshot. The imagine is not modified and you clearly see he is using wh from his own screenshot.

nonsense rules, you have no proof with a demo although you can assure someone is cheating many times theres no evidence far beyond a person or group of people judging based on opinions... an image with a wh is an evidence, even more if it has been checked as real and not modified like this one.

permanent ban
any way you can be in touch with a guy who makes these decisions? im sure he'll understand if u gather all the evidence you can get. its way too obvious and should be enough for a ban.
Make a poll. Who wants him to be banned =)
A screenshot proving he cheats should be enough... what do you want? He will certainly not query you and tell you "I'm a bad cheater, ban me!" since he's not even honest to play without cheating... CB rules are ridiculous and not adapted for progaming scene compared to ESL that have already banned cheaters by screenshots which proves clearly that someone cheats.
the thing is if he even queried killerboy and said that he is a cheater then it wouldn't be enough to ban him :D he could even beg killerboy to get banned ...
Parent
Well knowing that, it's even more ridiculous...
Parent
Watch demo with r_shownormals 1

Then capture exact moment of vilas screenshot. (Maybe u can get time from serverlogs?)

Then put the 2 images on top of each other, then check if the enemy is in same spot as screenshot.

+ http://www.crossfire.nu/?x=journal&mode=item&id=102151


HF sherlocks! :D

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This limit is reached. :S
According to Clanbase ET Stopwatch 5on5 rules

Global rules

19. Match conflicts

6.
Examples of valid proof are demos, in-game screenshots and server logs that were obtained from a neutral party. Private logs from IRC, ICQ, etc or server logs provided by either clan will not be considered to be evidence because they can be easily falsified. If a demo is used as proof of cheating or other malicious actions, you must immediately specify the exact moment(s) (down to the exact minute and second) where the cheating occurred or the conflict will be lost automatically. Supervisors will not look at entire demos.

eVo proved in his journal that the screenshot wasn't fake.

even if this might not have been a match conflict concidering vila, it should be possible to apply these rules on this case.
This file is neither allocated to a Premium Account, or a Collector's Account, and can therefore only be downloaded 10 times.
Are you kidding? Just ban him due to a fucking clear and definitely proved-to-be-cheat ingame screenshot and you'll follow CB rules, moral, and the law of karma.
The fact he deleted his post as soon as he realized what he just posted, should be enough proof tbh oO
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