still random restarts

by Hing • 29 Jun 2010, 23:50 • Journals
So i am still having random restarts whatever i am doing, it's still doing random restarts.

Im sure it's not overheating, because i once checked the system temperature when it almost restarted 5 mins after it (it was 45C and that is not too much or is it).

It's not a virus since i've ran 2 virus scans (AVG and anti-malware).

And Event viewer system log shows absolutely nothing!

And i pretty much cleaned the dust and shizzle up today inside the computer.

what the fuck?
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strN 30 Jun 2010, 00:51
run prime95 (google) and check temps
45°c @ idle is quite high
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Hing 30 Jun 2010, 00:55
not idle, playing a game + some youtube shit running and all.
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strN 30 Jun 2010, 00:55
run prime95 and check temps
takes the shit out of your system ;P
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Hing 30 Jun 2010, 01:00
how long will it last? 4hrs ?
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strN 30 Jun 2010, 01:02
~5 minutes should be enough ;P
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Hing 30 Jun 2010, 01:16
well my computer restarted again, while the test was running, twice.... is it supposed to... or did something fuck up again...

I just stopped the workers because the restars were happening too often..

Event viewer : The Prime95 Service service terminated unexpectedly.
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Burneddi 30 Jun 2010, 03:06
Ermm, have >50°C in idle most of the time, and ~60°C in stress. It's not high, it's normal.
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strN 30 Jun 2010, 13:28
36 idle
~52 on stress :<
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Burneddi 30 Jun 2010, 18:36
Depends on many things, such as your cooling, your case and most importantly, what processor you have. I personally have AMD Phenom II quadcore which perhaps is a tad hotter than for example some Intel processors, but my cooling isn't exactly awesome either.
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Snatix 30 Jun 2010, 00:56
what the fuck?
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anagaro 30 Jun 2010, 01:00
check ram
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undertakerrr 30 Jun 2010, 01:02
check your PSU fan
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speci 30 Jun 2010, 01:04
45C is np under load lol, drivers cause crashes often
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al- 30 Jun 2010, 01:07
Stop pressing restart button then :)
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ETNiES 30 Jun 2010, 01:08
Post your system specs, bit hard to say if 45 is a high idle if we dont no what cpu you have, and 5 minutes is a huge amount of time for temps to change they can drop from 90 to 40 in 2 or 3 seconds use coretemp.exe for an accurate reading.

if all thats fine, check your graphics card,

Download gpu-z and check your graphics card temps too.

If thats all good, download memtest burn it to a cd and run it, it will run before windows starts and check your ram for errors.



try that if you think it is a hardware problem and not a windows prob.
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Hing 30 Jun 2010, 01:17
windows xp service pack 3
Intel core 2 duo CPU e6850 @3.00GHz

1,00 GB of RAM

512 MB videocard

is that enough ?
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ETNiES 30 Jun 2010, 01:19
Your processor is overclocked? I'd say its become unstable, try setting default settings in bios
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Hing 30 Jun 2010, 01:27
And how am i supposed to do that ?

Why do you think it's overclocked?

Oh and GPU temp is 51 while im here, on crossfire, no games running and shizzle
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mini 30 Jun 2010, 01:28
Sul pole ju klokatud.
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ETNiES 30 Jun 2010, 02:08
ok forget about the overclock stuff

I'd run memtest now..

Download here : http://www.memtest86.com/memtest86-3.5.iso.zip

burn it as a bootable iso and run it, it will run a full check on your ram for errors.


If prime95 is causing you to crash it's a definite hardware problem you just gotta find out what it is.
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Hing 30 Jun 2010, 11:49
stumbled across another problem, when i try to boot from CD, the message just aint there, so i have no clue what button to press because the message just aint there when i restart....

Google doesn't seem to help at this point either...
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ETNiES 30 Jun 2010, 11:56
Are you trying to boot with memtest or with something else?

Try entering your bios and changing the boot priority to CDROM instead of hard drive.

Also what was your temp of your cpu when you crashed using prime95 did you check? If you didn't run it again with coretemp.exe running in the background also.
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Hing 30 Jun 2010, 12:02
Just opened prime95 with coretemp and i nearly crashed the second i clicked on prime95 so yeah...

Yes i am trying to boot with memtest even changed the bios to 1st boot from cd... nothing workin tho and i still can't see the boot from cd sentence anywhere when booting...
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ETNiES 30 Jun 2010, 12:12
ok are you sure you made the cd a bootable cd? Use cdburnerXP and it lets you select "bootable iso"
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Hing 30 Jun 2010, 12:16
i just burned it to cd with dvdvideosoft free studio :S does it matter ?
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ETNiES 30 Jun 2010, 12:22
It doesn't matter as long as you are burning it as a Bootable iso, burning it normally will result in windows not being able to boot from it think thats whats happening now

Try it with Cdburnerxp it's free:

http://cdburnerxp.se/downloadsetup.php
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Hing 30 Jun 2010, 12:44
pass, no errors.
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ETNiES 30 Jun 2010, 13:08
ok it's more than likely an overheating issue or possibly power supply, you might need to re-apply thermal paste to your processor, have you done this before? It's fairly easy there's how to videos on youtube, and the paste itself is cheap try get something from Arctic costs about 5 euro.

Thats the cheaper option, if it's your power supply it will cost you a lot more for a new one, so best to try new paste first, What brand is your powersupply?
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Hing 30 Jun 2010, 13:21
Codegen 400W
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ETNiES 30 Jun 2010, 21:03
because it's a no name brand power supply i'd say it's your power supply, cheap power supplys degrade over time and become less efficient, it's more than likely your problem.

Have you got another power supply you could try?
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Hing 30 Jun 2010, 22:41
no, not really, since you said it might be an overheating i just opened the left side of the PC box or whatever to help it out.... hasn't restarted since atm.
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ETNiES 1 Jul 2010, 00:01
ah change your paste then it will make a huge difference, your supposed to change it at least once a year or so
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speci 30 Jun 2010, 03:08
51C with just Firefox (or something similar) hmm : /
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Stouda 30 Jun 2010, 09:33
Mul 33 hehe
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Panda 30 Jun 2010, 01:17
Dr Ger in da house y0
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Quazz 30 Jun 2010, 01:38
Mine goes over 80C kthx

Lrn2notoverclock
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Elly 30 Jun 2010, 04:59
Probably fucked up Windows, could try reformatting and re-installing Windows. Or check your RAM with memtest.
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MerlinatoR 30 Jun 2010, 05:12
had similar thing, with hot weather and general length of time since getting a PC your CPU heat sink adhesive will pretty much disintegrate.

you can test the problem online with some temp programs, your system temp counts for nothing - its about your CPU.

One I used before: http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1691/Real_Temp_3.40.html

when it hits 100C your system will automatically turn off without any blue screen or anything - sometimes when you restart during start up it will again just shutoff as your CPU hasn't completely dispersed the heat.

I would not let this happen too much as this can damage your CPU (the shutdown is to prevent that, of course) just go to your local PC store or order online some Thermal Compound at most this should cost you 5euros and you could easily get it for around 3 :

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Arctic-Silver-5-Thermal-Compound-for-CPU-and-Chipset-Coolers-35-gram

this transfers the heat from the CPU to your heat sink to keep it cool, may also be worth checking the fan on the heat sink is not too dusty, etc. system dust can cause fps problems but I doubt it would make your CPU overheat.
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