new Student fees Law [UK]

by Nyke • 3 Nov 2010, 12:02 • Journals
Students in universities in England face tuition fees of up to £9,000 per year from 2012, as the government reveals its plans for higher education.
Universities will be able to charge £6,000 with a higher tier of £9,000 - nearly treble existing levels

Shoutout to everyone going to university next year or 2012. £27,000 for a 3 year degree at a top UK uni or £18,000 at all others. £4000 a year for accomodation and like £3000 a year for living.

= £48,000 for a degree course at a top uni

= £36,300 for a degree at most other unis.

success

Source:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11677862

This will now take Cambridge and Oxford out of the education system. Since they will just become like harvard and charge insane fees to study so only rich people will go there. So if anyone on here wants to go to Cambridge or Oxford in 2012 think again.
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sol 3 Nov 2010, 12:05
Good news.
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loazis 3 Nov 2010, 13:09
You always like seem a reasonable, intelligent chap to me so I'd be happy to hear why you think of this as good news.
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sol 3 Nov 2010, 14:14
I think it's only fair that those who wish to pursue higher education should have to pay for it themselves. The UK is facing an unemployment rate not far off 10% and a monstrous budget deficit, so it's unreasonable to expect John Q. Taxpayer to fork out for other people's tuition fees.
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Rapt6rr 5 Nov 2010, 12:36
Having people persue higher education is excellent for the long run of a country. You really don't want to cut back on that.
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klejf 3 Nov 2010, 12:05
i approve paying for higher education
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vyper 3 Nov 2010, 15:30
agreed, I don't want poor people taking classes with me
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Wesbo 3 Nov 2010, 12:06
Makes going to the university again something only the elite can do.
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Brisk 3 Nov 2010, 13:03
+1

After all, an educated populace is just so much of a hassle to deal with, when you can have a nice ignorant public instead, who can all nicely follow the people with the money and power.
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niSmO 3 Nov 2010, 13:33
or the poor, who get bursaries
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JOSHUA 3 Nov 2010, 14:29
Wat misschien ook gebeurt met dit kabinet in nl. Misschien niet zo extreem, maar wel die kant op.
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Wesbo 3 Nov 2010, 14:42
Ja helaas wel. Ik had er nog meer bij gezet ook over ons land maar ik dacht dat is toch niet zo boeiend.
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DeMeNtEd 3 Nov 2010, 12:11
shoutout to scotland

am i fuck going to uni :D
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zeec 3 Nov 2010, 12:18
Good thing it's free in Denmark, and we have some of the best science universities in the world.
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sol 3 Nov 2010, 13:09
And you're also crippled with taxes.
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zeec 3 Nov 2010, 13:30
Still we have more than enough of money.

Free healthcare, free schooling.

And if you didn't know, every student above 18 years is getting from 500-750 € each month to live for, which actually means that they are able to support themselves from the age of 18.

Our average salary is about 2500€ new engineering degreed students are able to get a start salary of 5000€ easily.

Yes taxes may be a bit high but still they are nothing compared what your kids get out of it.
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Wesbo 3 Nov 2010, 14:04
No point in arguing with sol. I wish I'd live in Denmark. :(
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sol 3 Nov 2010, 14:21
Not one of those things is free -- they're funded by massive taxation. That goes for the "free" health care, the "free" schooling, and the "free" €500-750 given to students over the age of 18. Good luck funding that in years to come with your ageing population and brain drain.
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zeec 3 Nov 2010, 14:26
Well when you got all this money, why care about taxes?

Seems like someone is having a hard time (:
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sol 3 Nov 2010, 15:43
http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=ds22a34krhq5p_&ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=gd_mio_eur&hl=en&dl=en#ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=gd_mio_eur&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country_group&idim=country_group:non-eu&idim=country:dk&hl=en&dl=en

http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=ds22a34krhq5p_&ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=edp_b9_mio_eur&hl=en&dl=en#ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=edp_b9_mio_eur&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country_group&idim=country:dk&idim=country_group:non-eu&hl=en&dl=en

http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=z8o7pt6rd5uqa6_&ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=unemployment_rate&hl=en&dl=en#ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=unemployment_rate&fdim_y=seasonality:sa&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country_group&idim=country_group:non-eu&idim=country:dk&hl=en&dl=en

http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=ny_gdp_mktp_kd_zg&hl=en&dl=en#ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=ny_gdp_mktp_kd_zg&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country&idim=country:DNK&hl=en&dl=en

http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=ejnc7belukcra_&ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=i2005&hl=en&dl=en#ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=i2005&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country_group&idim=country_group:non-eu&idim=country:dk&hl=en&dl=en

http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=ny_gdp_defl_kd_zg&hl=en&dl=en#ctype=l&strail=false&nselm=h&met_y=ny_gdp_defl_kd_zg&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country&idim=country:DNK&hl=en&dl=en

I agree, the Danish taxpayer is having a hard time.
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Panda 3 Nov 2010, 12:23
Only one uni I wanted to go to and that's MIT :{

Still at college ftw
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g3n 3 Nov 2010, 12:36
Does it exclude people from uni or does it mean students will have a bigger uni debt when they are done?
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wArdi 3 Nov 2010, 12:41
Will stop dickheads going to university taking flimsy courses, and having loans to spend all on beer with no intention of paying them back.

EDIT: It's great to see idiots taking out loans with no intention of paying them back, that's the type of people we are breeding here in this country.
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Roach 3 Nov 2010, 12:57
Not a good idea but at least it would stop idiots from doing something as useless as Liberal arts or media studies.
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loazis 3 Nov 2010, 13:00
I wouldn't say media studies are useless in our global media-centered world. A good understanding of how these institutions work and affect society can hardly be considered a useless thing can it?
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Skydeh 3 Nov 2010, 16:15
Media studies is not useless. More or less everything is evolving around the media and the power it has now amongst the public.

I may be biased because I'm studying it, but I really enjoy it's history and making videos etc :D
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koop 3 Nov 2010, 13:03
I will be in my last year of uni at 2012, already in 10k odd debt atm, but couldnt care since ill pay it back with the job ill get at the end, but still i find it ridiculous,their aim was to widen the student range at uni.. but this is having the opposite effect.
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dEzIrE 3 Nov 2010, 13:25
well NL is going to force students to loan, I FUCKING HATE LOANING, FUCKING RUTTE FUCKING FUCK FUCK
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VerSus 3 Nov 2010, 13:32
haha, free in Estonia :D top20 unis in Britain hard to get in, rest is not worth the bother :D
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evokz 3 Nov 2010, 13:40
engrish umhmhm
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infect 3 Nov 2010, 14:03
You are poorly informed. Only half of the students study free :D.
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VerSus 3 Nov 2010, 14:15
well, in TTU its no problem to get free 5 year education
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infect 3 Nov 2010, 14:49
For you and me it's not. But there are other people
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niSmO 3 Nov 2010, 13:35
education should be free.
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Pigeon 3 Nov 2010, 13:38
nyke sap man plymouth is sick! shouldnt affect me so im not hugely worried think it will only count to new students!
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superior 3 Nov 2010, 13:42
????????????????????????????????
i will most likely have to pay over 120k for my 4 years or more for 6
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loazis 3 Nov 2010, 14:09
BUT YOUR COUNTRY IS WEIRD
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GoodGuyGary 3 Nov 2010, 13:44
in malta they pay you for doing a course
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SpeaKeR 3 Nov 2010, 13:52
Won't make a huge amount of difference. I go to King's and it is pretty much all rich kids anyway.
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Lazio 3 Nov 2010, 13:54
I get payed to go to school :S
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infect 3 Nov 2010, 14:00
Welcome to Estonia bitch. Although the fees are around 10000 € for bachelor's degree, more if you get master's degree and doctors. All around till doctor itõs like 30 000 €. But for some the country pays.
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AziMiZ 3 Nov 2010, 14:00
fuckin tax dodgers!
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jnz 3 Nov 2010, 15:34
yeh wow, council tax is such a big deal. Them dodgers getting away with £30 a month! Just like people on the dole.
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AziMiZ 5 Nov 2010, 12:34
not council tax u tard, income tax since most students dont EARN the money they get, unlike people like myself that have to pay near £200 a month in INCOME tax to house all these 1 parent babies and foriegners
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Cstm 3 Nov 2010, 15:16
study here then :3

not expensive at all
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Skydeh 3 Nov 2010, 16:09
It will be now like just paying for a degree. Maybe the grades will drop down!!!

I'll be starting my 3rd year in 2012.

I'm unsure if I'll have to pay £9k for that year? The BBC don't really make it clear. I did read that it doesn't affect the current crop who have started but that may be wrong.

At least you don't have to pay it back till you earn £21,000 - @ a ridiculous interest! Oh, and there goes the idea of using my inheritance when I'm 25 to pay off all the debts, there's going to be a "penalty" to paying it off! Haha, what a joke!!

Kind of glad I decided to stay at home now! Even so, I took out the full amount of loans available to me in the first year so I can get myself a new car and go on a trip around America in the summer!
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Mayni 4 Nov 2010, 14:14
I'd imagine they won't make people already taking a degree pay more. Even if there is some clause that makes it legal, I would still put a lot of people out of their degrees.
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Skydeh 4 Nov 2010, 16:36
Yeah I hope so. The talk around Uni today in our group in particular is that they will agree to meet us half way in the 3rd year. As in half way between £3290 and whatever they put the price up to.

But as you say, I think people won't even bother if they make us pay the full amount for the final year and therefore will dropout, which would be shit!
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1080p 3 Nov 2010, 18:45
alternative?
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Mayni 4 Nov 2010, 14:13
Makes sense, although I'm glad I don't have to pay that much.
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