Format advice

time to format, making some preperations & need some advice.

first of all, OS.. I've been using XP since forever on my stationary computer and I easily prefer it over the newer windows OS like vista & 7. My specs are a bit outdated so does it matter? Windows 7 or XP? and if I would stick to XP, 64 or 32bit? I read that there are plenty of problems on 64 bit XP, any truth to that?

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Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5200+, MMX, 3DNOW (2 CPUs)
Memory: 2048MB RAM
Graphics: GeForce 8800GTS 320 MB (Dual monitors)


also, making a bit of a list of software I need, anything that could be useful? Best anti-spyware software and something else to speed the computer up and keep it clean? Any instant messaging software combining IRC & MSN greatly?

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- Firefox (considering Opera/Chrome)
- Spotify
- MSN Messenger
- Launchy
- MediaPlayer Classic (what codec package to use!?)
- mIRC (nnscript)
- RosettaStone
- Steam
- Vegas 8.0
- Halite
- Skype
- Ventrilo
- Mumble
- CCleaner
- MyDefrag
- DaemonTools Lite
- IMGBurn
- Fraps
- Colour to HTML
- NOD32
- Microsoft Office
- Internet Download Manager
- Photoshop
- Some FTP software!? FlashFXP perhaps


and finally; partions, I've never bothered making partions on my harddrives, anyone got experience with doing this? think I should do one partion for windows and one for files so I can easily format? or even do specific partions for games, movies etc? any recommendations?

thx crossfire, help a nub out <3
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Lots of win in this picture :DDDDDDDD
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dont get it :p
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for mpc use cccp, you will get mpc with it
for os use windows 7
adobe creative suite 5 or just photoshop cs5
for browser, I prefer chrome for the speed and interface
yea I'm using CCCP now, will stick to it I think
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- Some FTP software!? FlashFXP perhaps Filezilla <3

Go for 32bit 7, shouldn't have any problems running it, way more enjoyable to use than xP
windows 7's interface gives me eyecancer though, not that it matter much cause I usually tweak everything to keep it simplistic but still :D

also I've heard so many problems from friends/brother with 7, always when we're trying to install some shit there's a problem. XP feels more reliable to me belive it or not but I guess that might change over time.
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then just stick to XP. just recently formatted aswell and got Xp again. mut maybe you just try 7 out...
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ye, think I will stick to XP.
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prolly cuz he sucks at using computers and was new to win7 kkthx
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Well, stick to xp then. I personally like the 7 just because it lets me keep tabs & programs in good order and doesn't fill my eyes with huge amount of shit like xp. I guess we think it totally different since 7 is more simpler for me :)
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linuXXX
if win7/vista then i'd suggest more ram
Pidgin uses irc/msn/xfire in one so might be worth getting that.
I still use NOD32 and update the key from some random blog when it runs out, otherwise AVIRA is good.
yea I know about pidgin, might give it a fair shot this time.. :p I even paid for nod32 actually, couldn't be arsed to get keys when they run out and all that, so just bought it and shared the key with my brother and use it on my laptop as well.
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no need for 64bit i guess...
trying to dodge SLAC ban?? not working =D
2gb ram - 32 bit can handle 3 gb so no needd for 64bit sys.
64bit sux, because you always need spaciel programs.
firefox e.g. doesn't work with 64 bit, you need its 64 bit version "firebird" or so.

gl
bs, firefox works fine ofc.
have not had any (software-related) problems with 64-bit win7 so far. just some crappy coded stuff that troubles.
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i meant xp 64
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ah, k. XP 64-bit is no wise choice indeed.
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Not ture. I use xp x64 and Mozilla Firefox works without any problems.
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on mine it did not...but that was a long time ago, sorry for wrong storys
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2gb is certainly not too much of memory, i'd still go for win7 (+64bit, in case you ever consider updating your RAM - it's dirt cheap!)
afaik MS is going to cease updating XP next year - one more reason for win7.

as for IM you could use miranda or pidgin. both work fine for ICQ + MSN. you don't really need anti-spy/firewall software (especially useless if you're using a router anyway), regcleaners or the like. stick to windows firewall and get antivir. other stuff unnecessarily slows your system down (just defrag every once in a while)

don't get chrome, its TEH spybrowser. firefox is fine, if you don't need command line FTP it offers nice addons aswell (FireFTP for instance).

"or even do specific partions for games, movies etc? any recommendations?"
don't do that. 2 partitions suffice (for convenient formating), more are bad decision (performance-wise) on a local single disk system.
Quotedon't get chrome, its TEH spybrowser. firefox is fine, if you don't need command line FTP it offers nice addons aswell (FireFTP for instance).


Tried Opera? seems sleek imo

Quote"or even do specific partions for games, movies etc? any recommendations?"
don't do that. 2 partitions suffice (for convenient formating), more are bad (performance-wise) on a local single disk system.


ah, good info, thanks
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Partition thingy depends...:

Benefits of multiple partitions

Creating more than one partition has the following advantages:
Separation of the operating system (OS) and program files from user files. This allows image backups (or clones) to be made of only the operating system and installed software.
Having an area for operating system virtual memory swapping/paging.
Keeping frequently used programs and data near each other.
Having cache and log files separate from other files. These can change size dynamically and rapidly, potentially making a file system full.
Use of multi-boot setups, which allow users to have more than one operating system on a single computer. For example, one could install Linux, Mac OS X, Microsoft Windows or others on different partitions of the same hard disk and have a choice of booting into any compatible operating system at power-up.
Protecting or isolating files, to make it easier to recover a corrupted file system or operating system installation. If one partition is corrupted, none of the other file systems are affected, and the drive's data may still be salvageable. Having a separate partition for read-only data also reduces the chances of the file system on this partition becoming corrupted.
Raising overall computer performance on systems where smaller file systems are more efficient. For instance, large hard drives with only one NTFS file system typically have a very large sequentially accessed Master File Table (MFT) and it generally takes more time to read this MFT than the smaller MFTs of smaller partitions.
"Short Stroking", which aims to minimize performance-eating head repositioning delays by reducing the number of tracks used per hard drive.[1] The basic idea is that you make one partition approx. 20-25% of the total size of the drive. This partition is expected to: occupy the outer tracks of the hard drive, and offer more than double the throughput — less than half the access time. If you limit capacity with short stroking, the minimum throughput stays much closer to the maximum.
For example a 1 TB disk might have an access time of 12 ms at 200 IOPS (at a limited queue depth) with an average throughput of 100 MB/s. When it is partitioned to 100 GB (and the rest left unallocated) you might end up with an access time of 6 ms at 300 IOPS (with a bigger queue depth) with an average throughput of 200 MB/s..
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Quoteyou don't really need anti-spy/firewall software (especially useless if you're using a router anyway)
This didn't make sense to me, could you explain what you mean? I'm using avira, adaware and S&D to keep my pc clean. All of which find some minor threats and the occasional bigger threat when used on regular basis.
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64bit > 32 bit, but you have no need for it since you only have 2gb of ram

Which you might upgrade if going to win7... :)

Get Pidgin, Chrome/IE9 (IE9 preview is doing very good in the benchmarks!)
random question, just throwing it out there.

if I would continue using XP, worth downloading one of these custom modified versions? a "performance edition" or whatever with unnecessary shit removed?

especially interested in this since i'm gonna do a format on my laptop as well (which is even slower)
tinyXP is the best one? there are so many custom XP's out there, not sure which one is the best :D
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tinyxp is bollocks

performance edition is way to go, running quite smooth on 1.2 ghz @ 448mb ram , also doesnt seem that much stuff missing ?
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PE is the best afaik...
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Depends what you use it for.
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id replace msn with amsn and imgcurn with infrerecorder
Also, I believe MyDefrag died and is no longer updating...

I found UltraDefrag to be a good alternative (in fact a better one, my HDD is running way faster) (it's opensource :))
thanks for the tip, will check it out
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what happened
Firefox/Chrome - its rly up to U (AdBlock Plus works perfectly with both of them)
I strongly recommend 2 partitions. 1st just for OS and 2nd for music, games, movies etc.
The OS partition should be equal or more than 30gb.
What Windows? it also up to U. If U like XP - stay with it.
32/64bit ver? U have 2gb RAM - installing 64bit OS has only sense if U have 4gb RAM or even more.
do you still have programs on your OS partion? or do you have that on your 2nd partion?
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on OS - I am too lazy to change the installation directory :P Anyway that works perfectly.
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what language are you trying to learn on RosettaStone?
me spanish! its a great software!!! rly good stuff
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italian, why?
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was just curious thats all
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I actually using it for 'Swedish' and I think its really useful and helpful :)
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get 1gb more ram (from ebay for about 12 euros), the difference between 2 and 3 is quite big.

Windows 7
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WinRAR
Use windows firewall
Use windows antivirus (ms security essentials)
Word 2010
Photoshop CS5
f00bar2000 for music
vlc for videos
visual studio 2010 for any programming
notepad++
cuteftp pro for ftp
soulseek for music
utorrent for torrents
firefox for inet (essential plugins: flashgot + adblock plus, developer plugins: firebug, fireftp, web developer)
diskeeper for defrag & maintanance
daemon tools lite for image mounting
flash, dreamweaver, after effects, premier cs5 all useful if you do that kinda stuff
thats all you need
smartftp, gom player, opera & ff (im thinking of adding chrome on the side as well), foobar, utorrent, nero, daemon tools, ps cs3,
First, get 1gb more memory.

OS: XP 32bit

Motherboard drivers (Ethernet + Audio)
Graphic card drivers (Omega drivers or normal)
Avira Antivir Personal
ZoneAlarm
Firefox/Chrome
Gom Player (+ ffdshow) (beats VLC cause u can adjust subs if there is no right subs available)
Adobe (Flash Player/Reader)
WinAmp
mIRC
Vent/TS
GameBooster
CCleaner
Daemon Tools Lite
W:ET (":D")
2 people mentioning gom player :o
didn't know it was a legit mediaplayer, will have to consider it I guess.

will check it out, thanks
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FlashFXP is good. You could also try foobar2000 and VLC for playing media.

Also:

- Raxco's PerfectDisk for defragmenting
- TuneUp Utilities for general clean-up
- Exact Audio Copy for ripping
- CDBurnerXP for burning
- uTorrent for torrents
- GrabIt for usenet
- QuickPar for fixing broken .rars
- HLSW for scanning servers
I actually used Foobar for music earlier but since Spotify came I've almost entirely stopped downloading music, Spotify also supports local files now so I got that covered :p

as for torrents I've always used uTorrent, but thinking about trying Halite.

will check the other programs out, thanks
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Ok, I prefer Win 7 now but I also has a nice pc which can handle it easily.
Stay at 32 bits if you use win xp because I had win xp x64 before and it sucks:
-not all games working
-no update support
-not all drivers

Take x64 if you want Win 7.
all right, will stick to xp then, thanks
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-no update support
32bit also has no support anymore or it's really soon that they will stop it.
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Yes, I already read that but win xp x64 got never realy updated. Also it is sp2 so you have more problems with games and drivers. I couldn't install gta4 for example.
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i wouldn't suggest opera, it's nice but it's also really slow if u have shitloads of tabs opened, firefox is a bit better, also older operas were way faster!
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