HIV cured

by hattivatti • 15 Dec 2010, 02:00 • Journals
http://www.aidsmap.com/page/1577949/

This demands a way more popular represantation of its result than it has gotten so far.
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sani 15 Dec 2010, 02:04
yus it's cool
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m6hk 15 Dec 2010, 02:05
well, it isn't the kind of treatment that can be applied to everyone, because it needs a lot of that immune bone marrow, more then we have HIV infected
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hattivatti 15 Dec 2010, 02:07
Yet it's clear that so many more people should donate bone marrow, something I have done already
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cryptz 15 Dec 2010, 02:12
“It’s hard enough to get a good compatible match for a transplant like this,” Fauci told FoxNews.com, “But you also have to find compatible donor that has this genetic defect, and this defect is only found in 1 percent of the Caucasian population and zero percent of the black population. This is very rare.”
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hattivatti 15 Dec 2010, 02:16
"FoxNews.com"

FoxNews.com = FauxNews.com

Yet it doesn't disprove my point.
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Quazz 15 Dec 2010, 03:09
That's pretty old news :3

It dates back from the middle ages actually, 1% became immune for the black plague (which never hit the black population)

It's that same immunity that makes oneself immune for HIV.
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Cokeser 15 Dec 2010, 11:06
Doubt that.
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Quazz 15 Dec 2010, 12:57
That's what I read :?
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Cokeser 15 Dec 2010, 13:18
Still it's highly doubtable that an enterobacterium such as the Plague pathogen has the same entry way than a virus, especially if it doesn't replicate inside cells afaik..To say it more clearly: It's utter bullshit.

E: Ofc it replicates inside cells, I have to correct myself. But it's invading mostly epithelial cells, which have no CCR5 on their membrane due to the fact that it's involved in immunological pathways and therefore expressed only on WBCs.
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Quazz 15 Dec 2010, 17:18
I just checked. They did indeed discard the plague theory.

Instead they're now in favor of the smallpox disease.
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Cokeser 15 Dec 2010, 17:42
Same shit.
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Quazz 15 Dec 2010, 17:44
Not really no. Look it up if you want, imma go eat
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Cokeser 15 Dec 2010, 18:54
At least smallpox is a virus, so it's not complete utter bs. Still it's just a populistic theory probably published in P.M. which can't be proven and isn't likely to be right but can't be unproven either.
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Quazz 15 Dec 2010, 19:29
The receptor for smallpox is currently unknown yes; could be the same as HIV-1 uses...

HIV is too recent for social selection to have occured, thus a virus that uses the same receptor gave us immunity before that.

First they thought it was the Plague since it was known there was immunity among a certain percentage of the people. However it got discarded since the Plague never hit for a continious long period of time. Smallpox did.
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Cokeser 15 Dec 2010, 19:34
Dude...Have you any slight idea how many surface molecules there are on any given cell? And how much they vary from cell type to cell type? The chances that smallpox and HIV go through the same entry path tho mainly targetting on different cell types, is pretty low. And the question from where this natural immunity comes is so unneccessary for the cure of HIV that it's only of populistic interest.
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Quazz 15 Dec 2010, 19:40
It's certainly not unnecessary since we have Smallpox vaccines and tests have shown that it greatly reduces HIV impact....

So shove it up where the sun doesn't shine
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Cokeser 15 Dec 2010, 19:45
Yep, it will help like all the other overhyped populistic hypothesis... Oh wait..
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Quazz 15 Dec 2010, 20:11
Yes, because tests are always wrong

Oh wait...
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janarii 15 Dec 2010, 10:59
But it's still cool. hopefully they find a way how to cure ms-disease too
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cryptz 15 Dec 2010, 02:14
I don't think it should be overhyped since this was a very particular case but it should sure clear all stem cell research restrictions
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hattivatti 15 Dec 2010, 02:18
But it's a start. Any clue to restrict this deadly disease shold be taken seriously.
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quebratolas 15 Dec 2010, 03:01
the world doesnt need the cure for hiv
if hiv gets cured there will appear a new to replace it or an old which becomes a stronger desease and replace hiv
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Jayy 15 Dec 2010, 03:36
i Donate 5 pounds a month.. to save donkeys.
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SjMX 15 Dec 2010, 03:44
HIV could be cut drastically if people infected were a little more careful!
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jnz 15 Dec 2010, 04:04
instead of focusing on this, they should be focusing on how to reduce the testosterone of black males and therefore reduce world HIV cases by about 31.83%
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mAhla 15 Dec 2010, 09:52
: DDDDDDDDDD
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froxe 15 Dec 2010, 07:47
Nice. ! :)
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Juize 15 Dec 2010, 10:20
Quotenatural resistance to HIV infection



uhm.. wat?
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HIRVI 15 Dec 2010, 12:11
You can be immune for HIV.

In other words, there's no way to get HIV for HIV resistant people.
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xPERiA 15 Dec 2010, 10:57
Why would anyone want to get rid of their aids????
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Krosan 15 Dec 2010, 11:16
Too bad you need a mutated donor + 200000€ surgery :p
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Danje 15 Dec 2010, 11:39
There has only been 1 case that a man was infected with HIV and his immune system did actually fight it off. He was cured of HIV (not aids) and nothing was ever heard from him again. I assume they took him for tests and shit to see how and why he defeated the disease. 1 man out of millions.
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Quazz 15 Dec 2010, 17:32
It's actually 1% of the Caucasian population that's immune.
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Danje 17 Dec 2010, 11:18
Not 'immune' but have less of a chance of getting it.
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fantax 15 Dec 2010, 11:52
yeah the doctors were only trying to cure the cancer, they just got lucky with the HIV :> so yes, they cured cancer :)

if u dont know: 1% of europeans are immune to HIV, so the doctors looked for that kind of person and then implanted their cells into the HIV guy. then suddenly both HIV and leukemia(whatever its typed) was gone. it doesn't even mean that the treatment will work on everyone..
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