damn wannabe pro's, you can't aim shit. sorry but that's fact
me and my brother will show up some day in some noobie shit LAN and then you will ride something called aim.
I think jonas is one of the most greatest ET players in history
den er grei. men vi får ordne det med clanbase admins tidligere en det du sier, for hvis de spiller 2-3 matcher med han på laget, så blir alle direkte tap vettu, kan ikke gi bort poeng til folk heller=)
hmm du har et poeng der ja.. kan snakke mer da jeg kommer hjem, forums er vel ikke det beste stedet å snakke om sånt uansett :P
Dessuten må jeg nesten jobbe litt nå.. snakkes
* Traces of cheats (e.g. variable settings) without actually cheating: 3 month ban for the player, forfeit loss for the clan.
* Cheating (aimbot, wallhack, spiked models, ...): 12 month ban for the player. If the cheating occured in a Cup match, the clan will be removed from the cup. If the cheating occured in a Ladder match, the clan will be issued a forfeit loss
In-game cheating outside ClanBase:
* On a Public / Clan server: 6 month ban
* In any tournament, ladder or similar not organized by ClanBase: 12 month ban
* However ClanBase will only act if the evidence of the cheating is brought to us in full and the identity of the cheater can be determined with certainty. If the evidence is unclear or incomplete, the report will be discarded. Clans will not be held responsible for the actions of their players on public servers unless the cheating player is the clan leader. Read the FAQ for the procedure to report external cheats.
If a Clan uses a banned player (also applies to ClanBase Hosted Cups):
* Match the offence occured in will be forfeited.
* All the players who played with him/her in a match will be banned for 3 months.
sry slajdan but i must say that usin normal speakers u hear about 50 % less than with headphones and i know cus i used them for the first year i played the game and i could really notice the difference between headset and speakers.
Not really tbh...just proves that he didn't use it this time. And since also at least one clanmate of his is also accused of hacking, one could argue that he then got his wh info from him (even though it's not the same as using it yourself).
Playing at a LAN and perform as good as you did during online matches would remove any suspicion (you might want to call that doing the butchji :).
I'm aware that this is pretty fucked up, especially if he ain't cheating (what I personally don't believe, but hey, who am I to judge).
"Not really tbh...just proves that he didn't use it this time. And since also at least one clanmate of his is also accused of hacking, one could argue that he then got his wh info from him (even though it's not the same as using it yourself)."
At this part I say, why would he use anything if it dosn't improve his skills? And with that you claim that the accused one is guilty?
"Playing at a LAN and perform as good as you did during online matches would remove any suspicion (you might want to call that doing the butchji :)."
That is also dependant on the situation you are in, for more info pm.
"I'm aware that this is pretty fucked up, especially if he ain't cheating (what I personally don't believe, but hey, who am I to judge)."
I'm not really into player history, so I'm not trying to use the argument that he/others came out of nowhere being suddenly high skilled and stuff.
I also don't know anything about LAN and shit, but I'm pretty sure you can't use hax there :).
Moreover you still have an advantage, if you don't use the wh yourself, but a clanmate that gives you info about where everyone is going.
I btw don't claim he doesn't have good aim (but I also don't know shit about all these fancy humam style aim aimbots), but yet, he's got dozens of fishy situations.
And now to my final argument...in fact, I think that all those guys hanging around with the dispo fellas are somehow connected to cheating. It's just that apparently every and single one of them has been accused of hacking. Plus, you always seem to be in the same clan and shit...you rarely see them playing with other players, let alone play in some international clan.
I'm still aware that this is nowhere close being conclusive proof, but it's enough for me to say, yep....they are somehow cheating.
"I also don't know anything about LAN and shit, but I'm pretty sure you can't use hax there :)."
I think you could if you realy wanted, but its nonrelevant here.
"Moreover you still have an advantage, if you don't use the wh yourself, but a clanmate that gives you info about where everyone is going."
ofc, but can jonas realy be expected to try to bust his own teammates with inconclusive proofs? that isn't realy his task imho, and can he realy take any responsibility if they did?
"I btw don't claim he doesn't have good aim (but I also don't know shit about all these fancy humam style aim aimbots), but yet, he's got dozens of fishy situations."
All good players have such situations, thats why so many good players have been accused, don't you think?
"And now to my final argument...in fact, I think that all those guys hanging around with the dispo fellas are somehow connected to cheating. It's just that apparently every and single one of them has been accused of hacking. Plus, you always seem to be in the same clan and shit...you rarely see them playing with other players, let alone play in some international clan."
You could see other players playing with others for a long time also(exept the clanhoppers but those can't realy be considered top of the crop skilled imho), and i see them play with non swedish players sometimes, and why would they want to play in a international clan? first of all remember there guys are pretty young and are not very found of language, secound, talking your inborn language enchants the gameplay, just look @ the top clans in other games.
"I'm still aware that this is nowhere close being conclusive proof, but it's enough for me to say, yep....they are somehow cheating."
I would like to see some real conclusive proofs to support you statement, like some green guys on a pbscreenie or something that can't be done or repeated without external programs.
It's just my personal oppinion after all, I'm not an admin or anything, so I don't really need conclusive, rock solid, whatever proof :).
And no, actually there haven't been that many good players been accused, at least not that I am aware of....butchji, mAus come to my mind. There might have been more, so I could be wrong.
And my point is not that one of them has been accused, but everyone, at least as far as I can remember.
Oh, and calling for pbss as proof...I've never used a hack, but from what I've seen, new hacks will deliver either black/clean/whatever screenies, but not those you'd see as conclusive proof. And in demos you guys say it's coincidence/comms/luck/lotto/whatever.
Anyway, we won't come to a conclusion here...I think they cheat, you say they don't...
we have played this game together since the start..
even if dispo is inactive in ET we are still playing other games together and some for fun praccs in et..
and about that we always play together is faked too tho..
jonas is playing with rewind/overdose, slajdan and unisol with massacre, savage with like kojak, gosu and sublime, tornis with dtekt.. the only ones from dispo that only have played in dispo is me newbje and butchen..
we arent like a usual boring international clan where people only are on vent when their gonna play and play 100% serious all the time..
we are allways on vent talking about everything.. u can better say that we are a bunch friends instead of clanmates.
btw, what's happening with all the accusations?
Is cb going to do anything about it ?
gambit is the worst hacker
me and my brother will show up some day in some noobie shit LAN and then you will ride something called aim.
I think jonas is one of the most greatest ET players in history
It's sad that you can't be to good in ET
and it helped abit for me to.=)
I was tired and a bit upset that i had to get early up.. then i read this=)
:>>> now im all smiling;)
har du foresten en avi fil med en italiensk spiller også?
tør ikke legge det inn heller, for er felles pc
edit: dessuten har jeg ikke demoen på jobben heller :P
hehe
..
den er grei. men vi får ordne det med clanbase admins tidligere en det du sier, for hvis de spiller 2-3 matcher med han på laget, så blir alle direkte tap vettu, kan ikke gi bort poeng til folk heller=)
Dessuten må jeg nesten jobbe litt nå.. snakkes
In-game cheating during a ClanBase match:
* Traces of cheats (e.g. variable settings) without actually cheating: 3 month ban for the player, forfeit loss for the clan.
* Cheating (aimbot, wallhack, spiked models, ...): 12 month ban for the player. If the cheating occured in a Cup match, the clan will be removed from the cup. If the cheating occured in a Ladder match, the clan will be issued a forfeit loss
In-game cheating outside ClanBase:
* On a Public / Clan server: 6 month ban
* In any tournament, ladder or similar not organized by ClanBase: 12 month ban
* However ClanBase will only act if the evidence of the cheating is brought to us in full and the identity of the cheater can be determined with certainty. If the evidence is unclear or incomplete, the report will be discarded. Clans will not be held responsible for the actions of their players on public servers unless the cheating player is the clan leader. Read the FAQ for the procedure to report external cheats.
If a Clan uses a banned player (also applies to ClanBase Hosted Cups):
* Match the offence occured in will be forfeited.
* All the players who played with him/her in a match will be banned for 3 months.
Producing and/or distributing:
* Game exploits: 3 month ban.
* Cheats (wallhack, aimbot, etc): 12 month ban.
don't think jonas would like to webcam the game itself due to the pc specs I have been told he got.
Playing at a LAN and perform as good as you did during online matches would remove any suspicion (you might want to call that doing the butchji :).
I'm aware that this is pretty fucked up, especially if he ain't cheating (what I personally don't believe, but hey, who am I to judge).
At this part I say, why would he use anything if it dosn't improve his skills? And with that you claim that the accused one is guilty?
"Playing at a LAN and perform as good as you did during online matches would remove any suspicion (you might want to call that doing the butchji :)."
That is also dependant on the situation you are in, for more info pm.
"I'm aware that this is pretty fucked up, especially if he ain't cheating (what I personally don't believe, but hey, who am I to judge)."
Who are you to judge.
I'm not really into player history, so I'm not trying to use the argument that he/others came out of nowhere being suddenly high skilled and stuff.
I also don't know anything about LAN and shit, but I'm pretty sure you can't use hax there :).
Moreover you still have an advantage, if you don't use the wh yourself, but a clanmate that gives you info about where everyone is going.
I btw don't claim he doesn't have good aim (but I also don't know shit about all these fancy humam style aim aimbots), but yet, he's got dozens of fishy situations.
And now to my final argument...in fact, I think that all those guys hanging around with the dispo fellas are somehow connected to cheating. It's just that apparently every and single one of them has been accused of hacking. Plus, you always seem to be in the same clan and shit...you rarely see them playing with other players, let alone play in some international clan.
I'm still aware that this is nowhere close being conclusive proof, but it's enough for me to say, yep....they are somehow cheating.
Oh, and about the 'who am I to judge' issue...
http://www.clanbase.com/claninfo.php?cid=1140341
Ohmygoat, a former clanmate ;( [though in the, hm, not-cheating squad]
I think you could if you realy wanted, but its nonrelevant here.
"Moreover you still have an advantage, if you don't use the wh yourself, but a clanmate that gives you info about where everyone is going."
ofc, but can jonas realy be expected to try to bust his own teammates with inconclusive proofs? that isn't realy his task imho, and can he realy take any responsibility if they did?
"I btw don't claim he doesn't have good aim (but I also don't know shit about all these fancy humam style aim aimbots), but yet, he's got dozens of fishy situations."
All good players have such situations, thats why so many good players have been accused, don't you think?
"And now to my final argument...in fact, I think that all those guys hanging around with the dispo fellas are somehow connected to cheating. It's just that apparently every and single one of them has been accused of hacking. Plus, you always seem to be in the same clan and shit...you rarely see them playing with other players, let alone play in some international clan."
You could see other players playing with others for a long time also(exept the clanhoppers but those can't realy be considered top of the crop skilled imho), and i see them play with non swedish players sometimes, and why would they want to play in a international clan? first of all remember there guys are pretty young and are not very found of language, secound, talking your inborn language enchants the gameplay, just look @ the top clans in other games.
"I'm still aware that this is nowhere close being conclusive proof, but it's enough for me to say, yep....they are somehow cheating."
I would like to see some real conclusive proofs to support you statement, like some green guys on a pbscreenie or something that can't be done or repeated without external programs.
And no, actually there haven't been that many good players been accused, at least not that I am aware of....butchji, mAus come to my mind. There might have been more, so I could be wrong.
And my point is not that one of them has been accused, but everyone, at least as far as I can remember.
Oh, and calling for pbss as proof...I've never used a hack, but from what I've seen, new hacks will deliver either black/clean/whatever screenies, but not those you'd see as conclusive proof. And in demos you guys say it's coincidence/comms/luck/lotto/whatever.
Anyway, we won't come to a conclusion here...I think they cheat, you say they don't...
Let's agree to disagree :).
maybe write a book?
And no, don't point out all the mistakes I made in my text :).
even if dispo is inactive in ET we are still playing other games together and some for fun praccs in et..
and about that we always play together is faked too tho..
jonas is playing with rewind/overdose, slajdan and unisol with massacre, savage with like kojak, gosu and sublime, tornis with dtekt.. the only ones from dispo that only have played in dispo is me newbje and butchen..
we arent like a usual boring international clan where people only are on vent when their gonna play and play 100% serious all the time..
we are allways on vent talking about everything.. u can better say that we are a bunch friends instead of clanmates.
butchji: owns me with 3hs @ luger :<
conclusion:
I am @ school and bored
ik ook @ school + bored
hoelaat ben je thuis?
edit: HOI
dit is de 13373 vlag waar ALLAH AKBAR op staat :DDD
wat krijg ik van je?
im just bored xD
Some1 made a vid and reenacted the same thing torspo did, and no action has been taken for a long time so he is as clean as butchji.
I was gonna post a picture of a big finnish lan where all finnish players was on, but I will have to search more.