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by Webe • 13 Jan 2011, 12:37 • Journals

Played this unbelievably shit map for 3 rounds @ public today. Is this the same map which was forced to atleast 3v3 (+5o5?) in clanbase? The worst map I ever played to be fucking honest, even delivery is better for 3o3 and 5o5. The flag defence is ridicilously easy to hold. The second spawn for axis, any decent team will spawn-goatse the shit out of you because the spawn entrances are so dumb.

Whoever made this map, dont get offended cos this is just my opinion but this map was
BAD.

Mad perhaps? Fuck yeah.

erdenhitler?

yes

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quite bad indeed..

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We share the same opinion I see.

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(c)

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i shall always remember it now

before it was just "the new map on bio"

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i like it

yeah , and?

Go play Haemar_b1 instead, :D.

what happened to haemar? from what i saw it seemed good, but never really took off :/

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Well, I didn't really did well my adversating job, but I might try something soon or later to revive it a bit someway, cause the people seemed to enjoy it.

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Well, to be honest Haemar was just way too big. Shrink down the distances by like one third if you want to make it suitable for 5o5/6o6 - the current version is simply too large. I've played it on 30-player Jaymod publics and it still felt like there was excess space.

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It's size is overated, I made a lot of 3v3 on it and it was very playable, thought, it still has many ways allowing to be a lot on the map at the same time.
The movements times are actually quite the same as adlernest, or even less : there are a lot of places where you can bunny jump.
And if it's still very playable in 3v3, it's also because from a few spots, you can watch 2 of the 3 main ways to the objs.

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hmmm could be true, but maybe what burneddi is saying is slightly true too

but i have never played it properly, so thats just me guessing

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nobody really cares what a random lowbob with a giant ego thinks anyway

well they propably need to modify it bit, but I think it's good :-) and the name isn't that hard to spell! :D

i played once erdernburgerdurger and it sucked

I like it :)

i think the flag defense is being made easier to break in the next version

its a good map, people like you make it difficult to introduce any new maps, and everyone is stuck playing supply and goldrush all the time

Yeah we stick on em simply cause they are the best maps evermade on ET

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no they're not

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yeahhh they are good, but i think that attitude leaves people thinking negatively about new maps, even if they are good

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Never got bored of playing those maps.

Im 1000x more annoyed every time theres a new map released. :x

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hmmmm i find them a little boring to be honest, when making tactics (especially in 5on5) the options are so limited! i love a good, new map which you can make tactics for properly and find some interesting positions :)

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You know why people play the same maps? They are good, fun to play (except grush with lags :B).

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Yeah, except the supply attack is just as retarded if you don't know what you're doing - and supposing that you're playing Erdenburger for the first time, you don't know what you're doing.

As for Goldrush, in the end it's just fucking retarded crossfire spam rape combined with bad FPS. Unless the opposing team is considerably worse than ours, the last stage as assault often makes me rage to the extent of just going AFK until the shit is over.

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but does that mean that any new map is not going to be fun to play?

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Yes, why ET players always want to be so different, take a look at other scenes, cs/quake etc etc, why change something that it is good alredy

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because playing the same maps is boring! i dont know much about the other scenes, but it is not changing something for the sake of it, there are bad maps in the mappool and if better maps were made then we should use them

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love it!

Im curious how to get spawn-goatse'd actually..

Sani's working on a beta 3

It's better than nothing. Still needs improvement though.

No, at the current state its not. With ALOT of improvements it might turn into good map tho.

CB's last succesfull "new map" to 3v3 was when they brought escape to mappool but they took it away after one OC, dont know why.

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I meant the creation of a new map for competition is great nevertheless. Whether it's already suitable for CB-use is another question. I think we need to encourage map developers in any way we can by giving them compliments and if necessary constructive criticism. This flamejournal is completely useless because it adds nothing.

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Flamejournal? Ok, I could have written it more nicely but my opinions are true, or do you disagree? :)

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adding new unfinished maps to CB maplist is better than keeping the maplist simple and known? I have to disagree with that one.

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Where did I mention CB in my comment? Nowhere.

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QuoteIs this the same map which was forced to atleast 3v3 (+5o5?) in clanbase?

QuoteMad perhaps?

those were the only questions in the journal so thought you were giving your opinion about the 1st one.
My apologizes

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Apology accepted...

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yes

dont be listenin' to these fools sanibro, they mad

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yes

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Imo it's a good map but the flag needs to be easier to cap and the axis 2nd spawn should have a different kind of exit or something

molemmat tulee

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Map is nice, problem is you :>?

Not that bad

It's a good map, too crowded tho. When I first played the map I also thought it's shit, but played it once again and I started to like it.
delivery? seriously... delivery is the worst map ever, the map is for lowbobs. you can't give headshots on non-flat maps or what? :DD
hahaha

deli is great in 3on3 despite its hated, definitely not for noobs :p

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Lean is considered good nowadays?

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deli isnt all-lean and besides, campy defense is the easiest to break in delivery.. there's only a couple of lean spots and theyre easily predictable

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I can't argue with this comment, but there is a reason why it's the most hated map. Most likely noobs playing it. People who are not able to give headshots on non-flat maps. e.g. crod

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it needs to be pracced quite a bit until you excel in it and not many players have :l highskill teams with not much routine could lose deli to any random med+ gang, which probably would make highskills hate the map since it might the only map theyre beatable on, u know :) i think it's the aimheaviest map but also needs awesome teamplay if you play it vs good oppo! plus crod is nade-only if you ask me :(

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No matter what you say its really bad map. Only map where med-skillers can win a high-skilled enemy

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just quit serious playing, problem solved

Public is far away from serious =D

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If it wasn't serious you wouldn't whine :)

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?? You really cant be this retarded?

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Awesome reply is awesome :D
Tell me more please!

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Well your reply in the first place prove me enough about how smart you are. I was not whining about the public gaming, I was "whining" about the map which is currently very badly done being in the map-pool of BiO. Read this twice to make sure you understood.

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Sorry man, but could you point out the part when I said that you are whining about public gaming?
Thanks in advance!
Best regards,
A

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This is what I replied to Ashe: Public is far away from serious =D

You replied:

If it wasn't serious you wouldn't whine :)
Stop, before you make yourself look like a total idiot.

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Let me explain, read carefully!

You said: public gaming is not serious
I said: If you wouldn't take public serious you wouldn't whine about the map
You got it mr?
I hope you won't fall in tears.

xoxo

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Read this, you need more than two times to read this:

The fact I played it on public was not the main point, but as expected some dumbass thirdie (in this case, you) dont see that the point im talking about is:

Why is a map which is not a final version yet and needs to be changed a lot in competitions (e.g 3on3 and 5on5 ladder) and after this "whine" I pointed out why I think this.

Tell me which part you did not understand and I will reply, got 30mins.

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Hmm I thought you played the map on public xD
Why do you even come up with ladders then? Don't play OC or ladder or where ever the map is going to be played.
Btw do you know what b means after some maps? like b3 after bremen or b4 after braundorf?
Hf thinking.

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check bremen's situation, be like Clown and improve something instead of whining

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Good map imo.

Imo its quite easy to attack if the opponent knows the map as good as your team does, but tbh, this map is really bad :S

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