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23 Jan 2011, 15:22
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Hi thar!
Since i've been doing some exercises myself and was curious about what do you eat, when do you do it, how many times etc etc. The main thing would be when and what. The idea is to gain muscle weight.
Is it true that it is most important to eat within 30 minutes after workout?
Just finished workout and now eating an omelette with beans, onion ,carrot and orange. Tastes delicious. : )
First meal of the day: buckwheat + eggs
Last meal of the day: ??? chicken/ cottage cheese ???
Since i've been doing some exercises myself and was curious about what do you eat, when do you do it, how many times etc etc. The main thing would be when and what. The idea is to gain muscle weight.
Is it true that it is most important to eat within 30 minutes after workout?
Just finished workout and now eating an omelette with beans, onion ,carrot and orange. Tastes delicious. : )
First meal of the day: buckwheat + eggs
Last meal of the day: ??? chicken/ cottage cheese ???
When you finished your workout eat within 30 minutes ye, and maybe some kind of shake shall do it.
Do each day one group, like one day: arms, the other one legs, the other one abs etc (you can combine some, dont know whether it's arms & chest , or that's not recommended I don't know)
by doing legs as well you gain that nice boost of testosterone so you can keep arms up fit as well.
Also build in a rest day
monday : chest
tuesday : tri/biceps
wednesdays : legs
thursdays : back , shoulders
friday : tri/biceps
saturday /sunday i just lay around doing nothing :)
Train monday, rest, train wednesday, rest, train friday
monday chest
tuesday biceps/triceps
wed depends on mood , if i go to gym on wednesday i just go for cardio
thursday back/shoulders
friday chest
weekend party hard
monday: shoulders
tuesday: legs
wednesday: lnothing
thursday: chest + triceps
friday: nothing
saturday: back + biceps
sunday: nothing
gonna do some interval trainings on free days
You mean like wannabe-builders or decent builders? :P
Of course you got the machos in the gym with huge arms & chest and small legs, but they're doing it wrong
I personally train legs twice a week.
Olympic-squat is the best for legs tbh, atleast for me. :D
I prefer legs too cause that's my strong part :) (see volleyball)
Actually when I go to the gym (only occurs one month a year) I got stronger legs than almost every person in there! (but then they do arms and I fail miserably :D)
Some beginners also forget to do the moves controlled & slow,
When I started to do o-squats, I started with 80 if i recall right.
Nowadays doing 3x15, legs are always dead after that =)
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eating/drinking something protein rich after a workout is helpful indeed
you should also focus on compound exercises (squats, deadlifts, OHP, bench, pull ups, rows, dips etc.) rather than isolation exercises to improve testosterone levels
rather than omelette try going for something more protein rich and lower in fat, such as a protein shake, can of tuna, grilled chicken breast, fish fillet, etc.
read bodybuilding.com articles for any info, it covers everything you will need and more
e: a lot of people recommend eating 6 meals per day in smaller portions...personally, i've looked into this quite a bit and afaik there is no actual evidence to support it improves metabolism - and cut cardio down to once or twice a week if you're doing any, it'll drastically halt your gains
e2: also, as the dude before me said, rest is important - hypertrophy occurs when resting so try not to work the same muscle groups more than once per week (4-5 days rest is ideal)
specific measures will vary depending on your size/metabolism so don't aim for specific amounts of anything (e.g. 80g fat, 120g protein w/e) unless you've used proper calculators etc. already
start with a light weight but do it a lot, e.g.: pectorial fly, start with a weight you can do 30 of (don't underestimate it) , wait a minute
25x with one weight up, wait a minute
20x with another weight up, minute
15x with again another weight, minute
work that up till 5x
that will bulk you quite fast
That worked out quite well if I'm fair.
I started with running in intervals, like build up walking then run at 15 km/h for 7' straight, then wait till my heartrate is below 140, then run 18 km/h for 5' and then 21 for 3'
After that I started working on the powerpart (leighter weights but fast & a lot, then add weights etc) Actually worked up my legpush till 200 kg for 40 times (and then all weights were used :D)
In that one month I gained a lot of strength & musclse, well I didn't bulk that's for sure but that wasnt what I intended
P.S.: didnt eat any diet or so
Guess first port of call is to sort out diet (I calculated my needed calorie intake, and how much needed to lose a pound a week but it's actually doing it that's the hard bit...).
And a run every day probably would suffice, but I literally HATE running. So I'd rather sort out my diet (which should be a given anyway) and do some weights/cardio.
exercise IS however key for the following reasons (and more):
weights - building muscle mass will improve your resting metabolism, and help you keep the weight off in future
cardio OR weights - actually going on a treadmill/bike/rower etc. and seeing how hard it is to burn off a few hundred calories really makes you reconsider your intake
cardio - not only burns calories when doing the exercise but improves weight loss rates during rest for up to 24 hours afterwards (more if you do HIIT - google for info)
either way, weight loss is easy with the motivation and time, just a reasonable diet (everyone knows what's good and what's bad) and exercise will be enough
aim to drop around 1 pound a week btw, if you try and drop weight any faster than that, you'll most likely be losing muscle mass....plus, the more you cut out of your diet (say a calorie deficit of 1000 as opposed to 500) the harder it is to maintain in the long run
best of luck bro, i'm back on a diet as of 2 days ago also! i'm aiming for abdominal definition this time, so my goal is gonna be further from me than yours!
Good luck buddy
re: alcohol....
well, it's not necessarily 'harder to burn off' - it's the fact that if you take in 1000 alcohol calories, you gain zero nutritional value, but if you go 1000calories over in steak and chips, you'll get the benefits of carbohydrate/protein intake
alcohol essentially provides empty calories...so ye, not good
i still drink once in a while, but to keep alcohol calories to a minimum i only drink if i'm going on a night out...vodka & diet coke usually (fruit juice is actually quite high in calories due to the sugars)
i don't really know what you drink but 10 pints of lager is between 1500-2000 calories (daily intake for some guys), and vodka is around 50 cal per 25ml shot i think (same as most spirits afaik)
Thanks for the hints.
e: your reward
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTOg_RGOEBg
:D
ayran
Building up new ones during a calorie deficit is (almost) impossible.
When I'm done with that in summer/fall this year, I'll concentrate on actually gaining muscles/mass to fill up excess skin.
When are you training your actual gamingmuscles again?
Cause i love to see you play again man!
I could imagine playing in a LAN fun team or something like that though :-)
1250 kcal/por - perfect for gaining weight
and ye what the others said. eat like 5-6 times a day and lots of protein.
"omelette with beans, onion ,carrot and orange" - sounds okej but you need even more proteins
Eat it till you die
anything with extra protein will make you fart a LOT
FAST MASS2 + MUSCLE are both good.
Just eat chicken and rice, and will fit =D
e: Misread
when u get a tone of muscles then what? u're still a nerd who can't get laid.
Forgot multisplit programs and focus on 3-6 different compound-lifts, like rahul said, where you start progressively adding weight from workout to workout. Three different exercises for biceps wont get you big, a 250kg deadlift will. Google 'Starting Strength', I promise that you wont regret it.
You dont get muscles and strength from working out, but while recovering. Eating 5 times a day and 30-60 grams of protein per meal. If you are stalling / not developing, you know you need to add calories.
E: Here's two god-tier articles I recommend anyone to read
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/who_wants_to_be_a_novice_you_do
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/most_lifters_are_still_beginners
Lift heavy (low reps high weight rather than low weight high reps)
Find out your daily calorific needs and eat 200-500 calories over that per day to gain around 1lb per week
Eat clean
1.) You need to eat more calories than necessary to maintain your weight
2.) Macronutrient ratio is the second most important goal of what you eat, so make sure you consume approximately 1g of protein per pound of bodyweight. Fat equivalent to about 0.5-1g per pound of body weight and then the rest with carbohydrates to take you to approximately 500 more than your maintenance.
3.) Meal timing means almost nothing, so working out and then having a protein shake filled with high glycemic carbohydrates isn't going to turn you into the incredible hulk. Instead consistency of eating is most important.
4.) Eat as many meals as necessary to reach your nutritional goals, whether this is 1,2,3,5 etc
5.) Train with intensity, vary your work outs, for muscular atrophy keep rest times reasonably short 2 minutes between sets.
6.) Compound exercises should be used to stimulate as many muscle fibres as possible whilst building practical strength.
7.) Adequate sleep and rest is essential, working out 5 times a week for a beginner is pointless, if you've just started do full body work outs of upper/lower 3 times a week with a day break inbetween. If you've been lifting longer, try a 3 day split, and if you've been working out for years and really struggling to gain mass, a 5 day split with a lot of concentration on each body part with two days of rest will probably be best.
Forget about what people have told you about the yolks in eggs, for a more complete amino acid profile it's best to leave the yolks with your eggs and although not all fats are equally good for you, the difference between the fat in egg yolks/chicken/nuts/oils is very small. Best of luck in your goals!
I dare to say that all natural trainers get better gains when training their body through twice or three times a week instead of this bullshit.
On top of that I find (and I'm sure others would agree) after doing say a bench press, I exhaust my delts and hence doing a shoulder press afterwards is incredibly difficult.
powerlifters (from what i know) tend to train much less