goh al bij al valt da dik mee tis 200 - 300 euro duurder ofzo ma wel legale windows (anders moede da van die 200-300 euro aftrekke XD) + waterkoeling en schoon case
still too expensive, wait for AMD bullozer cpu's and build one of those, for 1200 you can watercool, cpu, northbridge and gfx and even buy original windows and still have more performance then with an Alienware..
You can't even compare AMD to intel really, maybe the 1000€ cpu will beat AMD but I'm sure you won't find any better price that's actually reasonable for the performance you get.. Just look at the e8400 from intel..
still costs arround 140€, there has not been any change at all.. and AMD has a few cpu's that outperform it and cost half of that.. people are just stupid constantly buying intel... It's like buying 300€ shoes, ye you get a nice brand n stuff but there's shoes out there for half of that that are even better.. It's just like everyone is brainwashed :<
dont know what to say now but Intel is good and AMD is also good but it depends wich one u like more :) and alienware dont give pc with AMD so :P i like INTEL!
The new intel CPU that basically costs 280 euro is basically as good as the 900 euro hexacore version of the old ones... so yes clearly And note that these are the mid-range versions of the new sandy bridge CPU's. I'd like to see AMD beat those :).
Passmark what a great gaming performance test... Go check out the benchmarks on games and you'll realize what I'm actually referring too..
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 150€ 160fps
Intel Core i7-920 240€ 169 fps
Intel Core i7-960 550€ 180 fps
Intel Core i7-980X 900€ 199 fps
In games even these shitty old k9 structured cpu's perform really well and if you OC them you just have an unbeatable price/performance ratio that Intel will never even come close too.
The new high end AMD cpu's will be out fairly soon so we can talk again about how shit AMD is, especially when the prices of these old CPU's drop even more and you can get i7 980 gaming performance for less then 100€ with some OC...
have a nice day, and try to think for yourself every now and then
Who said anything about OC'ing? Having to tweak your hardware yourself to then claim that CPU is better than the other is invalid lol. It's straight out of the box performance or it is not relevant or AMD should've made it like that in the first place. Not everyone OC's their hardware.
And why are you linking outdated CPU's from Intel which are worse than the new and more expensive? Is this to make it seem as if u actually have a point? I guess you should start to think for yourself rather than try to look smart with outdated data <<.
You should learn to reply in context because everything you reply has absolutley nothing to do what I've said. You're like a woman that takes some words out of a few sentences and just starts babbling on about random shit... Read the first comment you replied too.. I don't even know why I bother anymore... fucking idiots..
For starters I honestly doubt AMD will come anywhere near Intel their Sandy Bridge CPU's performance seeing these are just mid-range so far and are basically raping almost anything. And you have to admit the prices aren't that steep. If you want to buy old CPU's still that's your own choice but I wouldn't expect everyone to do that.
I honestly don't think that is much money for a mid-range CPU with the performance you are getting for it.
Now the the other point you are trying to make is that older CPU's (in your case preferably those from AMD it seems) can do just as well when OC'd as newer processors but they are cheaper. But the real question here is will these older CPU's perform just as well in a year or 2 as the new Sandy Bridge or even Bulldozer CPU's? The answer will be most likely be no, resulting in having to upgrade again. I don't know if you realize this but this will cost money again, you'll most likely have to upgrade to Sandy Bridge/Bulldozer by then which means you have to buy a new motherboard as well (atleast in Intels case, i imagine Bulldozer being a different socket as well so lets say for both brands).
This means you buy now:
an old CPU with an old socket standard together with a motherboard that supports that socket.
compared to
a new CPU with the latest socket with more chance of still being around in the next few years with a motherboard that supports the new socket and will be reusable after a few years if you plan on changing your CPU.
Granted you may want to replace your motherboard as well but generally the only differences are how many USB 3.0 ports it will have or whatever. I think you'll understand the point I am trying to make here. But yes apperantly I'm a fucking idiot.
And you keep on trying to debate stuff that you basically pulled out your ass and had nothing to do with what I really said... I'm not even gonna explain ebcause you wouldn't get it anyways...
I'm not gonna waste my time replying to someone that doesn't get that I'm talking about gaming performance.
Everyone knows Intel is better but most, like you, for the wrong reasons..
On paper the Intel cpu's actually are but when it comes down to gaming you're better off with an AMD cuz the price performance ratio is just unbeatable. That was my whole point and if you really look at it that's not even arguable.. Also I'm quite sure the new AMD's will be closing the gap but even if they don't quite make it I'm gonna be happy with my cheap cpu that outperforms anything from Intel in and way above it's pricerange (when oc'd)
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still costs arround 140€, there has not been any change at all.. and AMD has a few cpu's that outperform it and cost half of that.. people are just stupid constantly buying intel... It's like buying 300€ shoes, ye you get a nice brand n stuff but there's shoes out there for half of that that are even better.. It's just like everyone is brainwashed :<
Edit: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html , lots of AMD on the top. Oh wait i joke i joke. If you want quality buy Intel/nVidia. If you want cheap shit buy AMD/ATI crap.
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 150€ 160fps
Intel Core i7-920 240€ 169 fps
Intel Core i7-960 550€ 180 fps
Intel Core i7-980X 900€ 199 fps
In games even these shitty old k9 structured cpu's perform really well and if you OC them you just have an unbeatable price/performance ratio that Intel will never even come close too.
The new high end AMD cpu's will be out fairly soon so we can talk again about how shit AMD is, especially when the prices of these old CPU's drop even more and you can get i7 980 gaming performance for less then 100€ with some OC...
have a nice day, and try to think for yourself every now and then
And why are you linking outdated CPU's from Intel which are worse than the new and more expensive? Is this to make it seem as if u actually have a point? I guess you should start to think for yourself rather than try to look smart with outdated data <<.
I honestly don't think that is much money for a mid-range CPU with the performance you are getting for it.
Now the the other point you are trying to make is that older CPU's (in your case preferably those from AMD it seems) can do just as well when OC'd as newer processors but they are cheaper. But the real question here is will these older CPU's perform just as well in a year or 2 as the new Sandy Bridge or even Bulldozer CPU's? The answer will be most likely be no, resulting in having to upgrade again. I don't know if you realize this but this will cost money again, you'll most likely have to upgrade to Sandy Bridge/Bulldozer by then which means you have to buy a new motherboard as well (atleast in Intels case, i imagine Bulldozer being a different socket as well so lets say for both brands).
This means you buy now:
an old CPU with an old socket standard together with a motherboard that supports that socket.
compared to
a new CPU with the latest socket with more chance of still being around in the next few years with a motherboard that supports the new socket and will be reusable after a few years if you plan on changing your CPU.
Granted you may want to replace your motherboard as well but generally the only differences are how many USB 3.0 ports it will have or whatever. I think you'll understand the point I am trying to make here. But yes apperantly I'm a fucking idiot.
Everyone knows Intel is better but most, like you, for the wrong reasons..
On paper the Intel cpu's actually are but when it comes down to gaming you're better off with an AMD cuz the price performance ratio is just unbeatable. That was my whole point and if you really look at it that's not even arguable.. Also I'm quite sure the new AMD's will be closing the gap but even if they don't quite make it I'm gonna be happy with my cheap cpu that outperforms anything from Intel in and way above it's pricerange (when oc'd)
As far as I've seen the technology is build up differently... Will be interesting to see the first benchmarks.
But price/performance wise... I think AMD will come out on top this time.
oh wait