adlernest question

by homiee • 27 Jan 2011, 14:50 • Journals

as i am converting adlernest for rtcw (i got permission of dersaidin) i have a question about something.

i'm almost done converting, just need some new scripting on door controls & tank turret & flag & transmitter

i also made it with the texture like outdoor of frostbite (rtcw version), so it will be a ice version, since i had troubles with blending alpha textures

but my question:
image: 1585od1

as you can see this teamdoor, this doesn't work on rtcw, so everybody can get through (unlike on et; only axis & allies convert ops in axis suit)

so my question: how would i edit this ?
1) leave it like it is ? but wouldn't that be too easy for allies to go through it and take cp (which is flag in rtcw)
2) make it like it opens only when you push a button from axis spawn
3) remove the door and replace it with a wall so you can't pass (but that would mean if allies take docs before door controls blow axis can't go to transmitter in time so gg)
4) make it some ducts thing where you would need to crouch to get through
5) anything else??

thx

1st xd

why are you putting adlernest into rtcw?

some people tend to believe that everybody will start playing again RTCW. that show is already going on a few years

Parent

care, if you would like et and it would be dead, why wouldn't you try not to get some activity on it

just saying :)

Parent

et is not dead, nice try anyway

Parent

do you know what "would" mean

Parent

it is, nice try

Parent

You might wonna try SplashDamage forum m8, they will give you an answer straight up ;).

make it so axis could access transmitter from high ground closer to their spawn? w/o the door then and lock the door in the pic or smth

so you mean like creating another opening leading to transmitter? i was also thinking about that but then allies transmitting docs would be become harder since this route would be easier to go through for axis

Parent

when door controls are blowm, ramp doors open, and axis route to transmitter close.

Parent

interesting, i'll keep that in mind ;)

Parent

I like to put textures of doors on walls for jokes.

crazy mofo :p

Parent

haha made me lol, just imagine that on ettv XD

Parent

can you trigger it by someone taking the obj? that you can only open the door if it has been taken? i'd probably do it that way.

1) would be too easy for allies indeed
2) if someone takes the obj after sneaking though the switch won't serve any purpose imo, since someone would have to run all the way back ;)
3) your point exactly
4) crouching doesn't really take that long, now does it? and takes axis too long to get through imo

edit: and if i were you i'd make the flag permanent, otherwise you'll probably have just the same situation as on ice, someone reclaiming it every spawn over and over again(which i do not like, neither fancying someone guarding it) :P

thx for your interesting comment

i'd would be the best way to script it like that, i should check it out of its possible

Parent

you should probably do the same for the case that the flag has been taken, or allies would probably in an unlucky coincedence take flag first, spawn there and guard transmitter while someone gets the obj, while axis have to move to the obj first (imo takes you longer to get to the obj from lower defence than it does from cp/flag)

Parent

ok so make sure this door goes open when,

A. allies take docs

or

B. allies take flag

Parent

flag would be the best idea imo, because what happens if they /kill ? -is the door open or closed then because no-one has the objective physically ..

Parent

wasn't meant to be "take either event 1 or event 2 but not both to trigger the door". meant that he should use both, since the one thing will obviously lead to the other one, either you take the flag (after running past the obj) and noone can actually hinder you, because they run after you, or you take the obj and run to the flag, since they still can not be there, because the door opens up when you take the flag, and everyone spawns there. :)

Parent

it is possible

Parent

just remove the door, since most of the time when the allies get through and get the docs before the big door blows its gg anyway

cant u make it a portal and only allow axis through ? ..obviously the portal wouldnt be glowing - just the same texture :)

what do you mean exactly ?

Parent

well, seeing as u can't make Team doors ..the other option could be to make a portal through to the other side of the wall ..literally from point A to B

If I remember correctly, you can make Team-Portals to only axis/allies can go through them

So in simple terms, create a portal in which the axis can only pass through it with the door texture ?

Parent

another alternative:

What about a barrier on the door place destroyable by nades, shooting, satchel? (like in front of the doc room in the left window)

Could be made even so that a engy can builed it up again. So maybe another tacticle point.

So if allies wanna go through this door while the door controll isnt blown (normaly with a Covert) axis engy can builed it up again and again.

If allies have the docs and door controll isnt blown an allies engy can try to block axis there with building up the barrier again.

Parent

yeah man would be great but you see, you can't build anything in rtcw as an engi

Parent

damn, i forgot ... to much ET addicted already :D

Parent

hehe, thx for idea thought ;)

Parent

nice idea :D

even though some might abuse it to camp behind the portal and only go through to shoot(since it doesn't need to open (or make a sound or anything..ok that can be helped) :P)

or maybe if someone walked through it, that allies can pass it for a certain amount of time?

Parent

put a corridor from axis spawn
or
move the door near the barrel

maybe put the door up near the ladder and let it come out by the transmitter??

Parent

have you thought about making a new map instead?

i'll start on homiejump4 this summer

Parent

make a labirinth of doors and walls that change every maprestart

After the controls are blown and the main doors open isn't it possible that the axis door opens or gets blown aswell, no point of having that door after the main doors are blown anyway...

don't think so, as a brush (block of space in a map, like a box or so) can only have 1 function (and the function of the door is to be a door, not an object that can't be destroyed)

Parent

and i thought it was like the best idea ever :(
shit

Parent

3) remove the door and replace it with a wall or open it when allied get the doc

This is what u have to do and put a flag instead of cp this will be same as frost

6) Add a button so everyone has to click to open the door. The button should be placed some meters away to the right side of the door.

And make the door close really quick.

Parent

lol, actually mate, when he would push button, the door would remain open ;)

Parent

Ha, just installed GTK. Looking at some of my old maps atm :D

Parent

wow i didnt knew you were a mapper :o nice job mate, looks nice

Parent

Ha yeah, few little maps...

Parent

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Parent

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Parent

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Parent

thx

Parent

add a wait and close door after ?

Parent

idd havent thought of that :o!

Parent

what about other 2 team doors near docs?

think i'll let them stay, do you think there would be too much spawnkilling cause of it?

maybe remove 1, the closest at spawn??

Parent

Not spawnkilling, but it would be impossible to defend the docs and axis would get raped from all sides. Doors near the docs are not important. Third doors at the back are same as the 1st one, axis just wouldnt have any camp spots left. And if you remove those 2 doors, only way to the docs for axis is to go to the window, and since its their only way it would be easy for allies to kill them. Maybe you should reconsider converting adlernest since the whole map revolves around those damn doors.

Parent

could maybe solved with some stairs from one side where the axis can jump down from the upper stair but allies not up from the other side. ofc then no doors but holes in wall or smth.

but prolly the bottom arround this stairs must be lowered except the one nearby the door controll.

Parent

i'll set spawntime 30 secs for allies, should fix that imo

btw i can always move docs a bit more further away from allies flag

Parent

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